eh a little less maybe and only for one year then okay. But if 900k is the veteran minimum fine but I don't think that is. However I don't want Vokoun on that deal either especially if Bobrovsky's cap hit is a perceived problem.
- JoeRussomanno

Bobrovsky I believe will be traded this summer or at the draft. He will go for a pick or be used in a package deal.

I'm submitting my lineup


Harts G Jagr
JVR Briere Simmonds (bodyguard for Briere)
Schenn Coots Voracek
Read Talbot Wellwood

(no goons)


Coburn / Mez / Grossmann / Carle / Timmo / MAB

No changes from last year. Look how deep our forwards are.

My only untouchables are Giroux and Couturier. Everyone else is available.
- stveshdy

someone would have to overpay, but i could part with coots.

Bobrovsky I believe will be traded this summer or at the draft. He will go for a pick or be used in a package deal.
- stveshdy

that's fine, but why are they doing that? Supposedly because they want a lower cap hit at that position (backup/goaltender). I don't see how bringing in a higher priced much older guy with signs of breaking down is the answer to filling the void left by Bob.

My only untouchables are Giroux and Couturier. Everyone else is available.
- stveshdy

I would add Harry the Z

someone would have to overpay, but i could part with coots.
- flyerscup2011

I think once Coots offense develops he could be one of the best all around players in the NHL. He is only going to get better. I guess if someone offered a ridiculous deal you could trade him.

that's fine, but why are they doing that? Supposedly because they want a lower cap hit at that position (backup/goaltender). I don't see how bringing in a higher priced much older guy with signs of breaking down is the answer to filling the void left by Bob.
- JoeRussomanno

Flyers will sign a backup goalie on the cheap. Vokoun was not the answer.

I would add Harry the Z
- aightwebang17

Wouldnt be surprised if he is traded as well. I like Harry Z but he was in the doghouse of Lavi.

someone would have to overpay, but i could part with coots.
- flyerscup2011

Coots is going to be if not the best center in the league then a top 5 within 5 years. I don't know if I could just part with him. He's the kind of player you can build your franchise around.

I think you are underrating Enström. He's small but he's an All-Star caliber defenseman who is also better defensively than you might think. He'd be the ideal heir apparent/replacement for Timonen.

Depending on Enström's signability to a long-term extension before he hits the UFA market next summer, I would be OK with the Flyers making any player but Giroux or Couturier the key to an Enström deal.
- bmeltzer

I dont think I am underrating him at all.. I think he is a heck of a player, and like you have said in past blogs is actually bit of an iron man (aside from this season). I think he would make a heck of an addition to the team, but I also think that Schenn, JvR, Coots, G are all gonna be more valuable. I would rather see JvR (if he is gonna be moved) in a deal for a bigger d-man who has 2-way play.

I know Enstrom has good play both ways, and all though he isnt big or physical, knows how to use positioning and smarts to overcome that.. but he also can get out matched and out muscled by bigger forwards from time to time. He would instantly add one of hte best break out passes in the game, but its not what I would prefer...

I would rather have a guy like Brent Seabrooke or Alex Edler (both also possess that desperate need for a RH shot) be the focal point in a trade involving any of those young forwards.

EDIT: My mistake, Edler is a LH shot as well...

Flyers will sign a backup goalie on the cheap. Vokoun was not the answer.
- stveshdy

Exactly so I don't see how Pittsburgh signing him was to keep him out of Philly when faced with the fact they can't exactly be 100% about their own starter and definitely needed a backup.

IT's been illustrated ad nauseaum that Bryzgalov was one of the Better goalies in the NHL through the second half of the season. Also Bryzgalov was far from the reason why the Flyers are not in the playoffs now. Do they want a backup? Sure you need a backup goalie that can play so as to give the starter much needed time off. However the whole idea of jettisoning Bobrovsky is his high cap hit. If you're gonna do all that, why bring in a guy like Vokoun? Furthermore Vokoun never made it here last year when he became available so there is little to no evidence that says they the Flyers are interested or Vokoun himself wants to play here either.

All I'm saying is, if the Pens are making decisions on who their back up goalie is based on what their opposition is doing then that sounds bush league to me.
- JoeRussomanno

I personally am a Bryz supporter, and I like his play in the second half and in the NJ series. But he did have a louzy first half and first round. We can guess as to whatever the reason is... was it a new town? a bone chip? Media? Who cares? All I know is it happened, and I want someone reliable backing him up if there is another streach this happens in.

Cap space is not a reason to trade Bob. There will most likely be a bonus cushion, and his cap hit will be very managable. The reason to trade Bob is because, just like Bryz, he needs to see a lot of games to be effective. That means he isnt good off the bench, and he isnt good after long streches of not playing... therefore he isn't the ideal back-up for a goalie that needs to play a lot of games.

As for why bring in Vokoun? Out of the goalies available, he has had the most sucess, and is only 1 injury riddled season removed from playing good.

And all I am saying is, if your not thinking about what you can do to screw up your direct rivals, while trying to do good for you, then your not trying hard enough. There is a reason the Devils and Flyers have never made a trade...

Exactly so I don't see how Pittsburgh signing him was to keep him out of Philly when faced with the fact they can't exactly be 100% about their own starter and definitely needed a backup.
- JoeRussomanno

Pittsburgh was not signing Vokoun to keep him away from Philly. They signed him so Fleury doesnt have to play 70 games a year.

If Voracek is going to be a contact issue then I would rather trade him now. His production isn't much higher then it was last year, and playing on a higher scoring team. He is a good player, but there is no need to be fighting management over contracts at 24, when you havent exactly lived up to your draft spot.
- RooNosHockey

Voracek doesn't have control over where he was drafted. I see another 1 year deal.

really? an aging veteran making more money than the current backup and on a NTC +35 contract that is already showing signs of breaking down? How is that good for the Flyers or even the best option?
- JoeRussomanno

I wouldn't want a multi-year deal. 1 is plenty.

I dont think I am underrating him at all.. I think he is a heck of a player, and like you have said in past blogs is actually bit of an iron man (aside from this season). I think he would make a heck of an addition to the team, but I also think that Schenn, JvR, Coots, G are all gonna be more valuable. I would rather see JvR (if he is gonna be moved) in a deal for a bigger d-man who has 2-way play.

I know Enstrom has good play both ways, and all though he isnt big or physical, knows how to use positioning and smarts to overcome that.. but he also can get out matched and out muscled by bigger forwards from time to time. He would instantly add one of hte best break out passes in the game, but its not what I would prefer...

I would rather have a guy like Brent Seabrooke or Alex Edler (both also possess that desperate need for a RH shot) be the focal point in a trade involving any of those young forwards.
- jak521

Problem is Chicago loves Seabrook and Vancouver loves Edler. I expect Edler to get resigned before hitting the market next year. His game slipped alittle during the second half of the season but hes still a very good defenseman.

I would totally trade for his rights if for no other reason then to keep him away from the Rangers as a possible replacement for the production lost from Gabby. Much like Pitt traded for Vokoun to keep him out of Philly.
- RooNosHockey

No way. If the Rags want that d-bag they can have him. I hope they sign a whole bunch of malcontent idiots like Radulov. Perfect thing to break up their locker room and ruin their team unity. Plus, the comments from Torts when Radulov screws up like he is certain to do would be priceless.

Its not tampering if Washington gave them permission. I wouldnt have minded Vokoun as a back-up to Bryz. And if the Flyers are going to be trading some forwards, I wouldnt mind Radulov if he was cheap.
- RooNosHockey

You really want another Zherdev situation?

Have to give something up to get something in return. Enstrom is an All-Star caliber defenseman.
- stveshdy

would you like that deal?
jvr or schenn for enstrom?

Voracek doesn't have control over where he was drafted. I see another 1 year deal.
- funmaster18

+1

I think his agent and Homer struggle to get this deal done, just an opinion.

I'd love Jags back if the price is right. I think JVR will be dealt at some point. He's been on the block since December.
- NickTheKid87

Why do you say he has been on the block since September?

I personally am a Bryz supporter, and I like his play in the second half and in the NJ series. But he did have a louzy first half and first round. We can guess as to whatever the reason is... was it a new town? a bone chip? Media? Who cares? All I know is it happened, and I want someone reliable backing him up if there is another streach this happens in.

Cap space is not a reason to trade Bob. There will most likely be a bonus cushion, and his cap hit will be very managable. The reason to trade Bob is because, just like Bryz, he needs to see a lot of games to be effective. That means he isnt good off the bench, and he isnt good after long streches of not playing... therefore he isn't the ideal back-up for a goalie that needs to play a lot of games.

As for why bring in Vokoun? Out of the goalies available, he has had the most sucess, and is only 1 injury riddled season removed from playing good.

And all I am saying is, if your not thinking about what you can do to screw up your direct rivals, while trying to do good for you, then your not trying hard enough. There is a reason the Devils and Flyers have never made a trade...
- RooNosHockey

if they wanted to screw the Flyers, the thing to do would have been to let Vokoun go to Philly, the FLyers would have needed to trade something to get him and then be straddled with the cap hit.

As for as the bad streaks went through here, that can and does happen to every goalie, and most of the time, they need to play through it. What you are suggesting leads to the goalie carousel that the organization decided to step away from last year. They committed to the guy, they aren't and shouldn't trying to bring in someone to breathe down his back. They owe it not only to him, but themselves to see how this thing plays out for at least one more season before trying to rock the boat in net.

I personally am a Bryz supporter, and I like his play in the second half and in the NJ series. But he did have a louzy first half and first round. We can guess as to whatever the reason is... was it a new town? a bone chip? Media? Who cares? All I know is it happened, and I want someone reliable backing him up if there is another streach this happens in.

Cap space is not a reason to trade Bob. There will most likely be a bonus cushion, and his cap hit will be very managable. The reason to trade Bob is because, just like Bryz, he needs to see a lot of games to be effective. That means he isnt good off the bench, and he isnt good after long streches of not playing... therefore he isn't the ideal back-up for a goalie that needs to play a lot of games.

As for why bring in Vokoun? Out of the goalies available, he has had the most sucess, and is only 1 injury riddled season removed from playing good.

And all I am saying is, if your not thinking about what you can do to screw up your direct rivals, while trying to do good for you, then your not trying hard enough. There is a reason the Devils and Flyers have never made a trade...
- RooNosHockey

How do you know there will most likely be a bonus cushion? Do they manage the team on assumptions?

You really want another Zherdev situation?
- funmaster18

yes

EDIT: And that is not my answer.. I would rather take Shelley in the lineup.

You really want another Zherdev situation?
- funmaster18

oh boy not this again