Please provide that list (UFAs only)
- B-Leaf

He posted it before.. I have already gone throuigh the whole list and eliminated 90%.. no need to worry (End of Page 7)

buff fans LOLOLOL

pominville is better than grabo, but i still think vanek is too much of a fluffer to be better. points or not.

It was a short point... haha

I am too lazy right now to actually go and do all the research of it.. but in the last few years of that major list I compiled I know there are guys that have signed new RFA or UFA contracts for less money than Grabo did.

Marian Hossa, Bobby Ryan, Loui Eriksson, Johan Franzen, Jeff Carter, Brian Gionta, Thomas Plekanec, Milan Milanec (I think), Scott Hartnell, James Neal, Jordan Staal, Ryan Clowe, Joe Pavelski

just to name a few....

Even Ruutu and Grabo have had VERY similiar stats.. and Ruutu signed for 750k less
- JVince117

Marian Hossa (circumvented cap), Bobby Ryan (soon to be UFA), Loui Eriksson, Johan Franzen(soon to be UFA), Jeff Carter (circumvented cap), Brian Gionta (Really?), Thomas Plekanec, Milan Michalek (UFA soon), Scott Hartnell (UFA Soon), James Neal, Jordan Staal (UFA Soon), Ryan Clowe (UFA Soon), Joe Pavelski (UFS Soon)

Your point isn't very good.

Also keep in mind that Centres make more than wingers that have the same role.

hahahaha i am just in no mood to see childish BS right now.. honest convo sure.. but i'm not in public school.. not interested in seeing a school yard name calling fight
- Dozzer

Who will be backing up Lou next season for the Leafs?

Hopefully one year their will be a history will be made commercial with the leafs in it.

He posted it before.. I have already gone throuigh the whole list and eliminated 90%.. no need to worry (End of Page 7)
- mfreedman

And I bet most of the remaining 10% signed their deals at least 2 years before Grabo...

Marian Hossa (circumvented cap), Bobby Ryan (soon to be UFA), Loui Eriksson, Johan Franzen(soon to be UFA), Jeff Carter (circumvented cap), Brian Gionta (Really?), Thomas Plekanec, Milan Michalek (UFA soon), Scott Hartnell (UFA Soon), James Neal, Jordan Staal (UFA Soon), Ryan Clowe (UFA Soon), Joe Pavelski (UFS Soon)

Your point isn't very good.

Also keep in mind that Centres make more than wingers that have the same role.
- mfreedman

if i cared id go into detail on each player...but that would take effort and time.

buff fans LOLOLOL

pominville is better than grabo, but i still think vanek is too much of a fluffer to be better. points or not.
- big_dion

So you posted 5 mins ago that Grabo is better than EVERY FORWARD on Buffalo.... and now you are saying that Pominville is better..

way to stick to your guns buddy...

Vanek is a power forward who gets banged around hard! Grabo is a center who I am not clear on what exact style of the game he plays whether its a sniper or what.. but Vanek puts up hella more points than Grabo.

buff fans LOLOLOL

pominville is better than grabo, but i still think vanek is too much of a fluffer to be better. points or not.
- big_dion

I admit it, Grabo is a much better center than Pomminville

Who will be backing up Lou next season for the Leafs?
- faceto27

NO

Marian Hossa (circumvented cap), Bobby Ryan (soon to be UFA), Loui Eriksson, Johan Franzen(soon to be UFA), Jeff Carter (circumvented cap), Brian Gionta (Really?), Thomas Plekanec, Milan Michalek (UFA soon), Scott Hartnell (UFA Soon), James Neal, Jordan Staal (UFA Soon), Ryan Clowe (UFA Soon), Joe Pavelski (UFS Soon)

Your point isn't very good.

Also keep in mind that Centres make more than wingers that have the same role.
- mfreedman

Ohhhh so blame it on the salary cap when I actually have proof.. thats an awesome move...

By the way.. please do research..

Ryan is signed until 2015..
Franzen is signed until 2020

But atleast it shows that you agree about Eriksson, Plekanec, and Neal

So you posted 5 mins ago that Grabo is better than EVERY FORWARD on Buffalo.... and now you are saying that Pominville is better..

way to stick to your guns buddy...

Vanek is a power forward who gets banged around hard! Grabo is a center who I am not clear on what exact style of the game he plays whether its a sniper or what.. but Vanek puts up hella more points than Grabo.
- JVince117

Who's your avatar??Jennifer Love Hewwitt??

Who will be backing up Lou next season for the Leafs?
- faceto27

Harding

Ohhhh so blame it on the salary cap when I actually have proof.. thats an awesome move...

By the way.. please do research..

Ryan is signed until 2015..
Franzen is signed until 2020

But atleast it shows that you agree about Eriksson, Plekanec, and Neal
- JVince117

stop being dense

you cannot compare contracts signed as UFA to contracts signed as RFA

completely different set of circumstances.

Who's your avatar??Jennifer Love Hewwitt??
- LEAFSfan28191

You betcha....

I do adore the Kratos avatar though... I wasn't a big fan of the 3rd one at all.. #1 and #2 were both pretty darn good though.

stop being dense

you cannot compare contracts signed as UFA to contracts signed as RFA

completely different set of circumstances.
- Dozzer

Okay... let me turn it around then....

Name a few UFAs just like Grabo that justify the signing from your perspective?

NO
- Dozzer

You know its a done deal........ its only a matter of how much garbage the Nucks are willing to take back in exchange

Okay... let me turn it around then....

Name a few UFAs just like Grabo that justify the signing from your perspective?
- JVince117

Leino

Ohhhh so blame it on the salary cap when I actually have proof.. thats an awesome move...

By the way.. please do research..

Ryan is signed until 2015..
Franzen is signed until 2020

But atleast it shows that you agree about Eriksson, Plekanec, and Neal
- JVince117

Firstly, Ryan is on his first deal signed after his entry level deal. That in itself says something. Grabo is on his second, thus he demands more.

I mized up Franzen and Fillipula.. Sue me..

Erikkson is an underrated player and when resigned will garner much more than Grabo..

As for the other 3, that is far less than the original 40+ players you posted.

Should we compare players that are making Vanek Money? How about Pomminville? I know Leino is pretty damn overpaid...

The point is that the majority of the players you initially mentioned can be fought rather easily..

Yes there are several players that make less than him and are better, but there are far more that are or will soon be making more that are equal or only slightly better.

TWhat this means is that he is not overpaid.

Firstly, Ryan is on his first deal signed after his entry level deal. That in itself says something. Grabo is on his second, thus he demands more.

I mized up Franzen and Fillipula.. Sue me..

Erikkson is an underrated player and when resigned will garner much more than Grabo..

As for the other 3, that is far less than the original 40+ players you posted.

Should we compare players that are making Vanek Money? How about Pomminville? I know Leino is pretty damn overpaid...

The point is that the majority of the players you initially mentioned can be fought rather easily..

Yes there are several players that make less than him and are better, but there are far more that are or will soon be making more that are equal or only slightly better.

TWhat this means is that he is not overpaid.
- mfreedman

i was just too lazy to look up the specifics about the others I listed..

Okay... let me turn it around then....

Name a few UFAs just like Grabo that justify the signing from your perspective?
- JVince117

i dont have a list handy but off the top of my head.. fleischman in florida got 4.5mill last year.. and there was a somewhat deeper crop last year

just watch.. any notables will get serious paydays this summer.. it will leave you shaking your head.. but the lack of tangible assets on the market is going to drive the price up 15-20%

just the nature of the business.

Leino
- drexel

Amnesty Clause SON!

Thank You Parise. A top FA not going to the Rangers. Beautiful day.

i dont have a list handy but off the top of my head.. fleischman in florida got 4.5mill last year.. and there was a somewhat deeper crop last year

just watch.. any notables will get serious paydays this summer.. it will leave you shaking your head.. but the lack of tangible assets on the market is going to drive the price up 15-20%

just the nature of the business.
- Dozzer

I think how shallow the market is this year is really going to push the trade market over the top... i think this year's draft might produce the most trades in recent history.

Buffalo has already said that all of their 6 picks in the first 3 rounds are in play. They said they have depth at Defense and are looking for a top line center.

Business is open!!

i was just too lazy to look up the specifics about the others I listed..
- JVince117

I did it for you.. End of page 7.. Eliminated 90% of them

I can give you examples of why they were eliminated

- Some were Rookies
- Some signed as RFAs
- Some were UFA's within 2 years
- Some contracts were for cap circumvention (i.e. less $ cause they signed long-term)
etc...

All of these things contribute to what a person signs for.