he didn't want to come here when he was a FA...
may not be a good fit.
- phi1671

Boowmeester wasn't a UFA when he signed his current contract.

he also got the security of knowing he would be set for life regardless of performance or injury. to come off like a victim in that circumstance is right out of the heatly play book. grow up & be a man and things have a way of working out...and they did.
- isaiah520

He didn't in any way come off like a victim. He was screwed by being sent to a dreadful Orginization that is going no where, and had no chance of winning at any time soon. And he had every right to be unhappy being sent there, and letting mnagement know that he wasn't happy there. Every right in the World. He gave up any control he had over his own career to stay in Philly. It's amazes me how people judge from afar without putting themselves in another's shoes. And money has nothing to do with it. And money doesn't take away human emotions. Ridiculous.

Bryzgalov in times with Anaheim and Philly and with the 'Yotes has proven that he can be an all-star goaltender. And much like Quick(who was maligned for his postseason play) will be able to translate that into postseason play eventually. And that type of goalie is worth the money.


Philly fans and the media will not be happy or support him when things are going poorly and when they turn around, Bryz seems to take zero pleasure in the fans that all of a sudden now support him in good times... just not in bad. Most athletes learn to tune out the bad, get back on track and appreciate the good times. I get the feeling Bryz is not like most Athletes and this feels like a bad situation. He may stay for the money, but if he's miserable, that's going to be tough on the lockeroom, team, and on Bryz being that dominant goalie he was in Phoenix.

This is why I think trading Bob is a horrible idea. Bob is a young goalie with a lot of upside and a great work ethic, I see a bad future where Bryz has it, askes to be traded (in his untradeable contract) and we are left with mediocre goaltending again. While Bob is 2-3 years out from being a solid young starter. This current team needs help developing goalies. Our goalie was so weak when we finally got a netminder with any serious talent he zoomed right up to our #1 spot as a rookie. Now everyone's treating the kid like a failed experiement.

Bob will be very good in 3-4 years, Bryzgalov will want out in 2, and fans will talk about it like it was the worst move since moving Richie & Carts, only this time they will be right...

... that is unless the deal is freakin fantastic and includes getting some really high end goalie prospects in the very near future... but I doubt that.

carter never had to sign that deal. In signing a 10 year deal, he had to understand there was always the possibility he could be traded up until the no trade kicked in.
- nastyflyergirl

Why wouldn't he sign the deal? He was told they wanted him in Philly for 11 years. He could have just signed for a year or two, and left in Free Agency, and put himself out to the highest bidder. Then what would they have been saying about him? Recognize the entire situation and put yourself in his shoes.

He didn't in any way come off like a victim. He was screwed by being sent to a dreadful Orginization that is going no where, and had no chance of winning at any time soon. And he had every right to be unhappy being sent there, and letting mnagement know that he wasn't happy there. Every right in the World. He gave up any control he had over his own career to stay in Philly. It's amazes me how people judge from afar without putting themselves in another's shoes. And money has nothing to do with it. And money doesn't take away human emotions. Ridiculous.
- MJL

It amazes me you can't let people have their opinion and move on. Just ignore it and talk about relevant topics. You're just as bad of an offender, IMO, by continuing the back and forth.

Bryzgalov in times with Anaheim and Philly and with the 'Yotes has proven that he can be an all-star goaltender. And much like Quick(who was maligned for his postseason play) will be able to translate that into postseason play eventually. And that type of goalie is worth the money.


Philly fans and the media will not be happy or support him when things are going poorly and when they turn around, Bryz seems to take zero pleasure in the fans that all of a sudden now support him in good times... just not in bad. Most athletes learn to tune out the bad, get back on track and appreciate the good times. I get the feeling Bryz is not like most Athletes and this feels like a bad situation. He may stay for the money, but if he's miserable, that's going to be tough on the lockeroom, team, and on Bryz being that dominant goalie he was in Phoenix.

This is why I think trading Bob is a horrible idea. Bob is a young goalie with a lot of upside and a great work ethic, I see a bad future where Bryz has it, askes to be traded (in his untradeable contract) and we are left with mediocre goaltending again. While Bob is 2-3 years out from being a solid young starter. This current team needs help developing goalies. Our goalie was so weak when we finally got a netminder with any serious talent he zoomed right up to our #1 spot as a rookie. Now everyone's treating the kid like a failed experiement.

Bob will be very good in 3-4 years, Bryzgalov will want out in 2, and fans will talk about it like it was the worst move since moving Richie & Carts, only this time they will be right...

... that is unless the deal is freakin fantastic and includes getting some really high end goalie prospects in the very near future... but I doubt that.
- flyler

It's not a given that Bobrovsky will be very good in 3-4 years, or will even reach the level of being a #1 Goalie.

It amazes me you can't let people have their opinion and move on. Just ignore it and talk about relevant topics. You're just as bad of an offender, IMO, by continuing the back and forth.
- funmaster18

It amazes me that you say that other can have their opinion, and I can't have mine. As long as it is brought, up, I will reply to it and voice my opinion. That is my right. If it's brought up, it becomes relevant.

Next week, I plan to write an in-depth blog on Ilya Bryzgalov...
- bmeltzer

*buys a week's worth of popcorn for himself and his cat*

It amazes me that you say that other can have their opinion, and I can't have mine. As long as it is brought, up, I will reply to it and voice my opinion. That is my right. If it's brought up, it becomes relevant.
- MJL

coke.............a...............colaaa.

Why wouldn't he sign the deal? He was told they wanted him in Philly for 11 years. He could have just signed for a year or two, and left in Free Agency, and put himself out to the highest bidder. Then what would they have been saying about him? Recognize the entire situation and put yourself in his shoes.
- MJL

I agree. Carter's desire to stay with this team was taken advantage of. I do not believe Homer was always planning to trade him when he signed the deal and I feel as a GM, Homer made the best deal for his team. But Carter had a right to be pissed, & I think Homer owes him an apology.
That being said, he's on a team with his best friend, he's living on the beach year round now and and he just won the Stanley Cup. I don't think he's too pissed anymore, getting everything you could possibly want kind of has that effect.

he writing essays for GED credit?
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I agree. Carter's desire to stay with this team was taken advantage of. I do not believe Homer was always planning to trade him when he signed the deal and I feel as a GM, Homer made the best deal for his team. But Carter had a right to be pissed, & I think Homer owes him an apology.
That being said, he's on a team with his best friend, he's living on the beach year round now and and he just won the Stanley Cup. I don't think he's too pissed anymore, getting everything you could possibly want kind of has that effect.
- flyler

Sarcasm?!?!?

If anyone is amazed at any behavior on this site, I have to seriously question your ability to be cogent on any topic.

I agree. Carter's desire to stay with this team was taken advantage of. I do not believe Homer was always planning to trade him when he signed the deal and I feel as a GM, Homer made the best deal for his team. But Carter had a right to be pissed, & I think Homer owes him an apology.
That being said, he's on a team with his best friend, he's living on the beach year round now and and he just won the Stanley Cup. I don't think he's too pissed anymore, getting everything you could possibly want kind of has that effect.
- flyler

When the Rangers apologize to Tony Amonte for his missing out on their 1994 Cup run, Carter's apology will be soon to follow.

It's not a given that Bobrovsky will be very good in 3-4 years, or will even reach the level of being a #1 Goalie.
- MJL

Bob's got more unteachable elements going for him than most goalies his age. His Flexibility and quickness are very impressive. All the areas of his game he needs work on are fixable in time. Nothing is guaranteed but I like his work ethic and he's still very young, especially for a goalie. The Flyers have not had good goalie luck recently, I do not believe now is the time to become impatient with what could be effectively our best young prospect in a decade.

I agree. Carter's desire to stay with this team was taken advantage of. I do not believe Homer was always planning to trade him when he signed the deal and I feel as a GM, Homer made the best deal for his team. But Carter had a right to be pissed, & I think Homer owes him an apology.
That being said, he's on a team with his best friend, he's living on the beach year round now and and he just won the Stanley Cup. I don't think he's too pissed anymore, getting everything you could possibly want kind of has that effect.
- flyler

I don't think Holmgren owes Carter an apology. Holmgren was well within his rights to trade him and do what he felt was best for the Flyers. Holmgren's first priority is to the team and his superiors. I see both sides. And recognize Carter's right, which he earned due to years of service in the League, to be unhappy and want some control over his career.

If anyone is amazed at any behavior on this site, I have to seriously question your ability to be cogent on any topic.
- Flyskippy

co·gent/ˈkōjənt/
Adjective: (of an argument or case) Clear, logical, and convincing.

Sarcasm?!?!?
- stveshdy

No.

I don't think Holmgren owes Carter an apology. Holmgren was well within his rights to trade him and do what he felt was best for the Flyers. Holmgren's first priority is to the team and his superiors. I see both sides. And recognize Carter's right, which he earned due to years of service in the League, to be unhappy and want some control over his career.
- MJL

I blame Carter and his agent. Get a NMC and you dont have to worry about it. He pays his agent big money. That falls on them imo.

No.
- flyler

Why would Homer have to apologize?

I don't think Holmgren owes Carter an apology. Holmgren was well within his rights to trade him and do what he felt was best for the Flyers. Holmgren's first priority is to the team and his superiors. I see both sides. And recognize Carter's right, which he earned due to years of service in the League, to be unhappy and want some control over his career.
- MJL

I find people today believe that owing an apology is tantamount to being wrong. I didn't say Homer was wrong. I said I think Homer owes him an Apology.

I blame Carter and his agent. Get a NMC and you dont have to worry about it. He pays his agent big money. That falls on them imo.
- stveshdy

The CBA delays the time at which the NMC (which his contract had) can go into effect. Carter had not reached that age yet. Neither had Richards (who also had an NMA that wasn't in effect yet due to his age). Nothing wrong with the agents.

It amazes me that you say that other can have their opinion, and I can't have mine. As long as it is brought, up, I will reply to it and voice my opinion. That is my right. If it's brought up, it becomes relevant.
- MJL

A little humility and maybe some humor would go a long way. A few months back there was a discussion about whether Shanahan would suspend a player, I forgot who. You laid out the case for suspension. When Shanny decided not to suspend you said that "Shanahan disagees with me". Well, think about it. Shanahan doesn't know your opinion from Adam so he's not disagreeing with you. You are disagreeing with him. In other words, you and your opinion are not the center of the universe. Lighten up and have fun rather than dissecting eveyones opinion like a Philadelphia.

Why wouldn't he sign the deal? He was told they wanted him in Philly for 11 years. He could have just signed for a year or two, and left in Free Agency, and put himself out to the highest bidder. Then what would they have been saying about him? Recognize the entire situation and put yourself in his shoes.
- MJL

I'm not saying he should or shouldn't have signed.....the point being there was always a chance he could be traded after signing the deal. Things change.

The CBA delays the time at which the NMC (which his contract had) can go into effect. Carter had not reached that age yet. Neither had Richards (who also had an NMA that wasn't in effect yet due to his age). Nothing wrong with the agents.
- bodiva88

Then if that is true, dont sign the long term deal and wait. Take the money upfront for security and risk being traded. Its a business and the player knows that when signing that deal. The Flyers brass owes nothing to Jeff Carter imo. The possibility of being traded was there before he signs the deal.