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phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:34 PM ET
link?
- coffee junkie

http://www.csnphilly.com/...blockID=724764&feedID=704
sorry i thought i provided enough information.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 14 @ 1:35 PM ET
Sutter not interested to coming to the Flyers per Sources as quoted by TimP on CSNPhilly.com
- phi1671





Good, if he has a 7 cap hit it's not worth it. For Weber, hell yes. Suter, nope.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:36 PM ET
I highly doubt the flyers have interest in him.
- funmaster18


For the cap hit, no.

Granted, it was two completely different situations, but here's a little comparison -

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0a881x399
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:38 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/...blockID=724764&feedID=704
sorry i thought i provided enough information.

- phi1671

Not for the etremely lazy.. I call it ELS. Extremely Lazy Syndr....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:40 PM ET
Took some time to think about it? Yeah, that was a nice PR spin. He was traded, not signing a new deal with a new team.

If you're unhappy with a trade, you still act like a professional, report to your new team and don't insulate yourself from your new organization and the media.

You can put any spin on it that you (or his agent) wants, but he handled the situation poorly and deserves criticism for that.

- bradleyc4



He didn't insulate himself from his new organization. He took a few days to collect his thoughts. Nothing wrong with that. And it's the off season. He doesn't need to report anywhere. I put myself in his position and think about how I would of felt. It's so easy to criticize from afar!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 1:42 PM ET
Sutter not interested to coming to the Flyers per Sources as quoted by TimP on CSNPhilly.com
- phi1671


This information officially puts the Flyers out. Time to start looking in another direction. I'm sure they have another plan ready to go.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
Not for the etremely lazy.. I call it ELS. Extremely Lazy Syndr....
- coffee junkie


no problem coffee...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
how do you know this? do you have sources, links or articles? he's only been in LA less then half a year...
key member member on the top line on two teams, traded and was supporting player on his third team. But winning the Stanely Cup...

oh wait, you must be writing a commercial...let me add the ending...

Winning the Stanley Cup....PRICELESS.

- phi1671



Yea he was a supporting player all right. LOL Top 5 in minutes played among forwards. Led the team in goals in the Post Season. Scored an OT game winning goal in game 2, which was a pivitol game. And scored the winning goal in the Cup clinching game. Definitely just a supporting player.

He was a key player on the Cup winning team. And both Richards and Carter proved what kind of players they are.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 14 @ 1:44 PM ET
This information officially puts the Flyers out. Time to start looking in another direction. I'm sure they have another plan ready to go.
- stveshdy




I think this was plan B anyway. Plan A is still on the table...........maybe
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:44 PM ET
He's living much more fortunate than most. So I don't feel bad at all. I don't care why he doesn't like it there, but I imagine a lot of players get traded to places they don't like. Deal with it.
- funmaster18



I don't feel bad for him either. I just recognize his right to be unhappy and have a say in his career.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:45 PM ET
- he has a NTC
- he has an exorbitant cap hit
- he shoots left-handed, when the Flyers have a strong need for a righty
- there's speculation that he didn't want to play for the Flyers back when he was about to become a UFA

- bradleyc4



He was an RFA, not a UFA.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:45 PM ET
Yea he was a supporting player all right. LOL Top 5 in minutes played among forwards. Led the team in goals in the Post Season. Scored an OT game winning goal in game 2, which was a pivitol game. And scored the winning goal in the Cup clinching game. Definitely just a supporting player.

He was a key player on the Cup winning team. And both Richards and Carter proved what kind of players they are.

- MJL



i thought all games are pivotal in a playoff series. Darn, I'm wrong again. You are really schooling me today MJL. Keep up the good work. Where is that theme music?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
i will forever enjoy Jon Runyan
he was asked by the media why he chose to come to the Eagles. He simply replied, "they offered the most money".
in the end it's a business.

I also remember Carter's agent telling the media that both the player and himself are aware of the Flyers cap issues. But he still wouldn't sign for less then 5 million. So, at that point both agent and Carter played the "it's business card".

- phi1671



Link?
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:47 PM ET
He didn't insulate himself from his new organization. He took a few days to collect his thoughts. Nothing wrong with that. And it's the off season. He doesn't need to report anywhere. I put myself in his position and think about how I would of felt. It's so easy to criticize from afar!
- MJL


and it's so easy to defend him from afar. you must be exhausted in correcting everyone's opinion. Great job on your part.

it's always respectful to reach out to your new or old organzation when you get drafted or traded. but, i guess it's a business, it's the offseason, he needed to collect his thoughts, he was out on his boat, he needed to call his mommy, he needed to call Richie...darn i was wrong again....
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
Link?
- MJL



when you start to provide your sources from your opinions and links, i will provide some for you...how's that?

cue the music
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
For the cap hit, no.

Granted, it was two completely different situations, but here's a little comparison -

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0a881x399

- tangent_man


I dont see the reason for his cap hit and what he's produced. Could be his situation in Calgary, but it's a bg upgrade on money without a definite upgrade on the ice.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
I don't feel bad for him either. I just recognize his right to be unhappy and have a say in his career.
- MJL


I feel bad for him.....there was a good 9 months there where he didnt have a drinking buddy.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
when you start to provide your sources from your opinions and links, i will provide some for you...how's that?

cue the music

- phi1671

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcFd74Ls7js
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:51 PM ET
and it's so easy to defend him from afar. you must be exhausted in correcting everyone's opinion. Great job on your part.

it's always respectful to reach out to your new or old organzation when you get drafted or traded. but, i guess it's a business, it's the offseason, he needed to collect his thoughts, he was out on his boat, he needed to call his mommy, he needed to call Richie...darn i was wrong again....

- phi1671



I give the benefit of the doubt when I'm not there and in a players shoes. And when I also don't know all the facts. I won't criticize another for how they react to a life situation. We are all individuals and handle things in our own way.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
when you start to provide your sources from your opinions and links, i will provide some for you...how's that?

cue the music

- phi1671



I was stating an opinion on what I think. Not stating what Carter and his agent said. Big difference.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcFd74Ls7js
- Crimsoninja

phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:54 PM ET
I give the benefit of the doubt when I'm not there and in a players shoes. And when I also don't know all the facts. I won't criticize another for how they react to a life situation. We are all individuals and handle things in our own way.
- MJL



that's your choice and i applaud you (please treat the emoticon as a clapping hands).
where others state their opinions from what they have read through the years.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcFd74Ls7js
- Crimsoninja



good call Crims
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 1:56 PM ET


Had to put it on the thread. Courtesy of Crims...
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
alright buzzers...
Have a good rest of your day...
I had my fun.

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