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Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:11 AM ET
Luongo will get more than that... won't he!? Kardi sucks in the NHL he is their version of Keith Aucoin.. kills it in AHL.. sucks in NHL

I would think Nash would get a different crop coming back then that but I like the originality.

the Sabres/Sharks trade isn't all that bad actually.. I don't know if SJ will want to take on all that salary though.

Ballard i could see that being done..

I like it...

- JVince117


If moved he would be a salary dump, Vancouver wouldn't care what came back as long as it wasnt a lot of salary.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:11 AM ET
does he suit up for more then 20 games if he was a sabre, serious question

I think the team needs to get a lot tougher, but from players getting 15 minutes or more ice time a game

Not downplaying him at all, anything to beef up the 4th line is a good thing

- homiedclown


I think he is much better than McCormick/Ellis/Tropp are right now..

McGratten - ?? - Kaleta

JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:19 AM ET
My Turn for 3 league and 1 Sabre trades...

Lecavalier to PHX for Vermette and 2nd rounder
Luongo to TB for Garon and 2nd rounder
Nash to Car for Ruutu, Sutter/LaRose, a 1st and a 2nd rounder

Sabres
Roy, Sekera, Brennan and a 1st to ANA for Getzlaf.
LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:23 AM ET
I never would have guessed that


- homiedclown

I would have thought it in 2011....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:28 AM ET
I would have thought it in 2011....
- LamontSanford



LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:30 AM ET



- homiedclown
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:33 AM ET

- LamontSanford

4.50 mark

Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:37 AM ET
My Turn for 3 league and 1 Sabre trades...

Lecavalier to PHX for Vermette and 2nd rounder
Luongo to TB for Garon and 2nd rounder
Nash to Car for Ruutu, Sutter/LaRose, a 1st and a 2nd rounder

Sabres
Roy, Sekera, Brennan and a 1st to ANA for Getzlaf.

- JVince117


As always, Vinny holds the cards with where he goes so he would have to rubber stamp anything that has him traded.

Secondly, you are coming up way short for Getzlaf.
LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:38 AM ET
4.50 mark


- homiedclown

It really is gold. The shows today can't hold a freaking candle to the classics!

By the way JV is all over the place today, mixing Redbull and Monster into the corn flakes did the trick.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:50 AM ET
As always, Vinny holds the cards with where he goes so he would have to rubber stamp anything that has him traded.

Secondly, you are coming up way short for Getzlaf.

- Gunner Staal


I'll give you that on Vinny...

But.. on Getzlaf.. think about it... They have Getzlaf, Corey Perry, Visnovsky, and Lydman all going to be UFAs after next season.. they won't have the money to resign all of them.. probably let Lydman walk but still he did have the best +/- in the NHL for a long time this year or last I can't remember... but need to keep 2/3 out of the the others. All of them already made 5+M so being able to sign them with a small raise would be impossible.

They already have a lot of money tied up in Ryan, Cogliano, Beauchemin, Sbisa, and Hiller for a long period of time.. and they have a few young pups who are READY for the NHL and one of which is a Center.

With Roy they would have a capable player who has put up big points which an expiring contract for them to have at their finger tips.. they will have a young puck moving d-man to add to their roster for the next 3 years if they lose both Visnovsky and Lydman. And a 12 overall pick that they could pick another young Center or Winger.. its not that far off it really isn't.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
It really is gold. The shows today can't hold a freaking candle to the classics!

By the way JV is all over the place today, mixing Redbull and Monster into the corn flakes did the trick.

- LamontSanford




Arnold Palmer in a can with an energy boost... she is my PRECIOUS!!!
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:53 AM ET
As always, Vinny holds the cards with where he goes so he would have to rubber stamp anything that has him traded.

Secondly, you are coming up way short for Getzlaf.

- Gunner Staal

Roy, Sekera, Brennan, biega, mark adams, shipley, zagragpan, card, funk, a 1st and peters twice to ANA for Getzlaf

better?
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
Roy, Sekera, Brennan, biega, mark adams, shipley, zagragpan, card, funk, a 1st and peters twice to ANA for Getzlaf

better?

- SabresFaninIndiana


worse I believe... haha
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
I'll give you that on Vinny...

But.. on Getzlaf.. think about it... They have Getzlaf, Corey Perry, Visnovsky, and Lydman all going to be UFAs after next season.. they won't have the money to resign all of them.. probably let Lydman walk.. but need to keep 2/3 out of the the others. All of them already made 5+M so being able to sign them with a small raise would be impossible.

They already have a lot of money tied up in Ryan, Cogliano, Beauchemin, Sbisa, and Hiller for a long period of time.. and they have a few young pups who are READY for the NHL and one of which is a Center.

With Roy they would have a capable player who has put up big points which an expiring contract for them to have at their finger tips.. they will have a young puck moving d-man to add to their roster for the next 3 years if they lose both Visnovsky and Lydman. And a 12 overall pick that they could pick another young Center or Winger.. its not that far off it really isn't.

- JVince117


They have plenty of cap space to sign their best players. They currently have 51.765M in cap space when Getzlaf and Perry are due raises. I mean if you want to make the argument for the Ducks moving Getzlaf, dont use cap space as the reason.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:56 AM ET
Roy, Sekera, Brennan, biega, mark adams, shipley, zagragpan, card, funk, a 1st and peters twice to ANA for Getzlaf

better?

- SabresFaninIndiana



what, no Ellis?
FIREonICE
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Darcys Playground, NY
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
They have plenty of cap space to sign their best players. They currently have 51.765M in cap space when Getzlaf and Perry are due raises. I mean if you want to make the argument for the Ducks moving Getzlaf, dont use cap space as the reason.
- Gunner Staal


agreed, crapping the bed last season would be a much better argument.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
Roy, Sekera, Brennan, biega, mark adams, shipley, zagragpan, card, funk, a 1st and peters twice to ANA for Getzlaf

better?

- SabresFaninIndiana

Hmm... Roy and 2 Peters...

this might have legs
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
They have plenty of cap space to sign their best players. They currently have 51.765M in cap space when Getzlaf and Perry are due raises. I mean if you want to make the argument for the Ducks moving Getzlaf, dont use cap space as the reason.
- Gunner Staal


... They will also only have 6 total skaters signed when they have 51M in cap space. Use the whole piece of it not just the part that helps you Gunn. I know that Blake, Selanne, and Koivu will all probably be gone or retired which frees up 12M in cap space.

I just don't know if they will want close to 20M a year in salary to Getzlaf, Perry, and Ryan alone... you know what I am saying. Ryan at 5.1 and I bet Getzlaf and Perry both will make 6.5-7.2 a year because they would easily get that on the open market.

I think it has been proven that no matter how sweet your top 3 guys are that doesn't mean you can win it all without atleast 6-8 quality guys on your team that can score.. and good defense back there too..
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
My Turn for 3 league and 1 Sabre trades...

Lecavalier to PHX for Vermette and 2nd rounder
Luongo to TB for Garon and 2nd rounder
Nash to Car for Ruutu, Sutter/LaRose, a 1st and a 2nd rounder

Sabres
Roy, Sekera, Brennan and a 1st to ANA for Getzlaf.

- JVince117


i think at this point I wouldn't want to touch Getzlaf with a 10 foot pole. He may be Anaheim's captain, but I think he's got some leadership issues. He's lazy, coming off a terrible year, and then had some issues during the World Championship. I'll pass.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
... They will also only have 6 total skaters signed when they have 51M in cap space. Use the whole piece of it not just the part that helps you Gunn. I know that Blake, Selanne, and Koivu will all probably be gone or retired which frees up 12M in cap space.

I just don't know if they will want close to 20M a year in salary to Getzlaf, Perry, and Ryan alone... you know what I am saying. Ryan at 5.1 and I bet Getzlaf and Perry both will make 6.5-7.2 a year because they would easily get that on the open market.

- JVince117


I guess I dont see why paying those 3 guys close to 20M/yr is a problem for cap reasons or on ice product reasons.

If I gave you the option to sign those 3 players in Buffalo right now and it would cost 21M, I cant think of too many Sabre fans turning that one down.

Their offensive help is coming in the form of Emerson Etem on a rookie contract in the near future. They need a better #2 center option behind Getzlaf and everything else will take care of itself in filling up the depth.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
what, no Ellis?
- mhp

he is th corner stone of the franchise.. i would expect if ellis is included we get couture as well
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
Hmm... Roy and 2 Peters...

this might have legs

- keptupl8

for you to think of this leads me to believe you have your head in gutter..
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
I REALLY hope that someone Offer Sheets Ottawa's Karlsson to a huge contract that forces Ottawa to have to match it and Fcuk up their awesome salary cap system that they have going on right now..

Like a Thomas Vanek type salary cap fcuk up.!!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
Scott Nichol would be a good 4th line player, he still lives in Rochester.
- Gunner Staal


you mean the former sabres 11th round draft pick in 1993?
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
I REALLY hope that someone Offer Sheets Ottawa's Karlsson to a huge contract that forces Ottawa to have to match it and Fcuk up their awesome salary cap system that they have going on right now..

Like a Thomas Vanek type salary cap fcuk up.!!

- JVince117


Stamkos was available for an offer sheet for quite a while and nobody did it, not sure why that would change with Karlsson.
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