you mean the former sabres 11th round draft pick in 1993?
- b0s0o1

Something like that.

Arnold Palmer in a can with an energy boost... she is my PRECIOUS!!!
- JVince117

HAHA.

I REALLY hope that someone Offer Sheets Ottawa's Karlsson to a huge contract that forces Ottawa to have to match it and Fcuk up their awesome salary cap system that they have going on right now..

Like a Thomas Vanek type salary cap fcuk up.!!
- JVince117

because darcy was an idiot and said straight up that he would match anything.. no team wants to lose that many 1st rounders on one player with that high of a salary.

because darcy was an idiot and said straight up that he would match anything.. no team wants to lose that many 1st rounders on one player with that high of a salary.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Yep, and one GM out there wanted to have fun with it.

I guess I dont see why paying those 3 guys close to 20M/yr is a problem for cap reasons or on ice product reasons.

If I gave you the option to sign those 3 players in Buffalo right now and it would cost 21M, I cant think of too many Sabre fans turning that one down.

Their offensive help is coming in the form of Emerson Etem on a rookie contract in the near future. They need a better #2 center option behind Getzlaf and everything else will take care of itself in filling up the depth.
- Gunner Staal

I do understand your side of the argument I really do.. but they have had those 3 guys there now for what 4 years?? and they have made the playoffs once i think? They need to retool their defense and get more support players.

I agree that those 3 players for 21M would be a good deal to almost every team.. but I also think that we have a better supporting cast then Anaheim does.

Foligno, Stafford, Ennis, Pommer > Blake, Selanne, Koivu, Cogliano, Hagman, Palmieri (selanne and koivu are not the same players they were before.. Teemu is still a monster but at 41 he has about 1 year left.. don't kill me for saying this)

Also.. I think that Miller>Hiller...

And also Ehrhoff, Myers, McNabb, Sekera, Brennan will be better 2-4 years from now than will Visnovsky, Beauchemin, Lydman, Sbisa, Fowler

not to mention Finley!!

just my opinion.

Stamkos was available for an offer sheet for quite a while and nobody did it, not sure why that would change with Karlsson.
- Gunner Staal

... I know.. I said I wish... I didn't say "I know someone will"

Yep, and one GM out there wanted to have fun with it.
- Gunner Staal

I think it was a bit more than that. Don't forget, that GM went on to sign Penner afterwards. I think he picked a few teams that didn't have a lot of cap space at the time and decided he was gonna get one of their players if it killed him.

I do understand your side of the argument I really do.. but they have had those 3 guys there now for what 4 years?? and they have made the playoffs once i think? They need to retool their defense and get more support players.

I agree that those 3 players for 21M would be a good deal to almost every team.. but I also think that we have a better supporting cast then Anaheim does.

Foligno, Stafford, Ennis, Pommer > Blake, Selanne, Koivu, Cogliano, Hagman, Palmieri (selanne and koivu are not the same players they were before.. Teemu is still a monster but at 41 he has about 1 year left.. don't kill me for saying this)

Also.. I think that Miller>Hiller...

And also Ehrhoff, Myers, McNabb, Sekera, Brennan will be better 2-4 years from now than will Visnovsky, Beauchemin, Lydman, Sbisa, Fowler

not to mention Finley!!

just my opinion.
- JVince117

Palmieri and Fowler are going to be good players. They're very young. I'd love to have either of them wearing blue and gold.

I think it was a bit more than that. Don't forget, that GM went on to sign Penner afterwards. I think he picked a few teams that didn't have a lot of cap space at the time and decided he was gonna get one of their players if it killed him.
- HonkFortheGoose

that same brilliant GM also paid Hemsky 5M, Horcoff 5.5M, Sheldon Souray and Khabby 3.75M

Palmieri and Fowler are going to be good players. They're very young. I'd love to have either of them wearing blue and gold.
- HonkFortheGoose

Palmieri and Fowler are going to be good players...

But I'd rather have Foligno and McNabb

see what I am saying...

I agree that those 3 players for 21M would be a good deal to almost every team.. but I also think that we have a better supporting cast then Anaheim does.

Foligno, Stafford, Ennis, Pommer > Blake, Selanne, Koivu, Cogliano, Hagman, Palmieri (selanne and koivu are not the same players they were before.. Teemu is still a monster but at 41 he has about 1 year left.. don't kill me for saying this)

Also.. I think that Miller>Hiller...

And also Ehrhoff, Myers, McNabb, Sekera, Brennan will be better 2-4 years from now than will Visnovsky, Beauchemin, Lydman, Sbisa, Fowler

not to mention Finley!!

just my opinion.
- JVince117

I dont think Anaheim is as far off as you are making them to be. Last year was an aberration. Not sure why Hiller is better or worse than Miller. Hiller was great last year since recovering from Vertigo. Better contract too.

Palmieri and Fowler are going to be good players...

But I'd rather have Foligno and McNabb

see what I am saying...
- JVince117

Honestly, I don't know that I would say that. They're different style players and both are going to have great careers. I loved that WJC team they played on. It was fantastic.

Palmieri and Fowler are going to be good players...

But I'd rather have Foligno and McNabb

see what I am saying...
- JVince117

Emerson Etem is their prime offensive prospect.

I dont think Anaheim is as far off as you are making them to be. Last year was an aberration. Not sure why Hiller is better or worse than Miller. Hiller was great last year since recovering from Vertigo. Better contract too.
- Gunner Staal

I really do not want this to turn into contract comparisons.. i was just saying player material alone..

It is just my opinion..

Anyone have a few trade ideas that they can actually see going down on Friday whether it be Sabres related or not.

I really do not want this to turn into contract comparisons.. i was just saying player material alone..

It is just my opinion..

Anyone have a few trade ideas that they can actually see going down on Friday whether it be Sabres related or not.
- JVince117

Is there really a difference between the two in that regard?

Emerson Etem is their prime offensive prospect.
- Gunner Staal

if i'm not mistaken, etem dissed buffalo at one time recently

Hmm... Roy and 2 Peters...

this might have legs
- keptupl8

brilliant

I really do not want this to turn into contract comparisons.. i was just saying player material alone..

It is just my opinion..

Anyone have a few trade ideas that they can actually see going down on Friday whether it be Sabres related or not.
- JVince117

rick nash going somewhere for a nice bounty

if i'm not mistaken, etem dissed buffalo at one time recently
- b0s0o1

He did. During the WJC. That's ok. I'd prefer people like him not to be in my city anyway.

He did. During the WJC. That's ok. I'd prefer people like him not to be in my city anyway.
- HonkFortheGoose

that's one of the problems with team building, especially when it comes to free agency...other cities offer much more than buffalo

KILLER MILLER

Stamkos was available for an offer sheet for quite a while and nobody did it, not sure why that would change with Karlsson.
- Gunner Staal

especially considering the icks we have now, it might have been worth the offer sheet. i would've liked to have offersheeted stamoks and been able to draft armia though, i'm not sure how that would've worked.

rick nash going somewhere for a nice bounty
- b0s0o1

went out on a limb there...

Leafs Line up as posted by someone in their blog..

Parise (6M) - Grabo - Nash
Lupol - Bozak - Kessel
Frattin - Colborne - Kadri
Rosehill - Steckel - Brown

Suter (6.5M) - Phaneuf
Gunnarsson - Franson
Gardiner - Schenn

Lindback (2M)
Reimer

has a 200k cap space left over.

They do have large imaginations don't they...

went out on a limb there...
- JVince117

yeah, well somebody had to do it