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77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 18 @ 9:05 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/
20120617_ap_formertvwriterfatallypunchespoodleinface.html

- Jsaquella


His lawyer is claiming self defense.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:19 AM ET
Centers: Giroux, Schenn, Couturier, Talbot
Wingers: Hartnell, Briere, Simmonds, Read, Wellwood

Defense: Weber, Coburn, Grossman, Meszaros, Timonen

Goalie: Bryz


I would be very happy with this if they made a trade for Weber. They could easily sign a few FA players on offense to fill roles and be perfectly fine next year.

- Flyers2821



There is not enough grit... Add with a gritty FA center for the 4 line. And, put Sestitio and Rinaldo in. Talbot is a terrible center, and Briere is better in the middle.

Which leaves... (I assuming JrV and Voracek is gone).

Hartnell/Giroux/FA??? (not sold on the idea of bringing Jagr back)
Simmonds/Briere/Schenn (or move Schenn to line 1 wing)
Read/Couturier/Talbot
Sestito/FA???/Rinaldo or Wellwood
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 9:22 AM ET
There is not enough grit... Add with a gritty FA center for the 4 line. And, put Sestitio and Rinaldo in. Talbot is a terrible center, and Briere is better in the middle.

Which leaves... (I assuming JrV and Voracek is gone).

Hartnell/Giroux/FA??? (not sold on the idea of bringing Jagr back)
Simmonds/Briere/Schenn (or move Schenn to line 1 wing)
Read/Couturier/Talbot
Sestito/FA???/Rinaldo or Wellwood

- leon neon


Talbot is a terrible center?
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jun 18 @ 9:26 AM ET
His lawyer is claiming self defense.
- 77rams


A 4 lb dog, prolly deserved it with it's non stop yapping.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 9:37 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20120617_ap_formertvwriterfatallypunchespoodleinface.html
- Jsaquella

a year in prison?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:43 AM ET
I really wonder, if the efforts for Suter and Weber don't pan out, if the Flyers would turn to Calgary and see if Jay Bouwmeester would be available
- Jsaquella


Not a righty. Pass.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:44 AM ET
There is not enough grit... Add with a gritty FA center for the 4 line. And, put Sestitio and Rinaldo in. Talbot is a terrible center, and Briere is better in the middle.

Which leaves... (I assuming JrV and Voracek is gone).

Hartnell/Giroux/FA??? (not sold on the idea of bringing Jagr back)
Simmonds/Briere/Schenn (or move Schenn to line 1 wing)
Read/Couturier/Talbot
Sestito/FA???/Rinaldo or Wellwood

- leon neon




I get what your saying, but also don't think Talbots terrible. Also not sold on Jagr, but if the players want him back then sure, obviously his value goes beyond statistics.

The grit piece, it's tricky. Obviously you look at teams like the Kings, Devils, Bruins from last year and you say they are a gritty squad or whatever. But they are also a confident squads peaking at the right time, so that grit pops out at you. There were times this season that the Flyers were cruising along the same way, there is plenty of grit on this team imo.

I think it also has to do with players feeling comfortable in their roles. We had a lot of new faces that I feel will be more comfortable in their role on this team, i.e. Schenn, Simmonds, Couts. Those are physical players in their own right that with a year of being on this team under their belt, I think will play with an edge next season. I just think these are all professionals, and you don't get to this level without being gritty, it's a matter of confidence and comfortability to play your style of game.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:55 AM ET
A 4 lb dog, prolly deserved it with it's non stop yapping.
- bird_dog



i think i hear you yapping, bird_dog.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 18 @ 9:56 AM ET
No new bill blog today
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:02 AM ET
Talbot is a terrible center?
- MBFlyerfan


Yes, he makes a better winger.

I'd rather have a guy like Gaustad... They hit about the same, but Gaustad's 6'5" vs Talbot 5'11". Face-off (H/A) 63-51% vs Talbot's 47-41%
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:04 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 4 more draft possibilities, Nash numbers don't add up
- bmeltzer


pete peters.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 10:14 AM ET
Yes, he makes a better winger.

I'd rather have a guy like Gaustad... They hit about the same, but Gaustad's 6'5" vs Talbot 5'11". Face-off (H/A) 63-51% vs Talbot's 47-41%

- leon neon


Yes he does make a better winger. But I asked if he was a terrible center, which he is not.

He is a very good defensive center, a very good defensive forward. To say he is a terrible center is simply wrong.


BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:19 AM ET
Yes he does make a better winger. But I asked if he was a terrible center, which he is not.

He is a very good defensive center, a very good defensive forward. To say he is a terrible center is simply wrong.

- MBFlyerfan

Yeah, I can understand preferring him on the wing, but 'terrible' seems like an overstatement to me.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:32 AM ET
That Nash won't waive his NTC stuff is complete garbage. Homer is trying to drive his price up though. Boston and NYR going really hard.

Flyers priority remains Weber.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 10:36 AM ET
New Bill blob!
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