Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

#CBJ and the #Flyers had a #DEAL on the table, AGREED which would have sent #NASH to Philly. BUT everything is OFF the table. Guess WHY?

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

I can confirm 100% #CONFIRMED that Nash will NOT waive his NMC to join the #Flyers. Philly has MAX 72 hrs to convince Nash or #NODEAL. #CBJ


So there's that.
- Jsaquella

This can't be true, can it?

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

#CBJ and the #Flyers had a #DEAL on the table, AGREED which would have sent #NASH to Philly. BUT everything is OFF the table. Guess WHY?

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

I can confirm 100% #CONFIRMED that Nash will NOT waive his NMC to join the #Flyers. Philly has MAX 72 hrs to convince Nash or #NODEAL. #CBJ


So there's that.
- Jsaquella

Does this fall under the category sometimes the best deal is the deal that is not ever made?

Kane has a lot of talent but his all around game is an issue. Didn't he get benched for lack of hustle or effort? I dont see the big upgrade moving JvR for Kane.
- stveshdy

Kane for JvR would be a coup... the guy is all hustle, 30-goals, 170+ hits, one-punch KO'd Matt Cooke.... I have a soft spot for the kid, but nwhat exactly has JvR done outside of that one playoff run?

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

#CBJ and the #Flyers had a #DEAL on the table, AGREED which would have sent #NASH to Philly. BUT everything is OFF the table. Guess WHY?

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

I can confirm 100% #CONFIRMED that Nash will NOT waive his NMC to join the #Flyers. Philly has MAX 72 hrs to convince Nash or #NODEAL. #CBJ


So there's that.
- Jsaquella

What's the Ohio equivalent of Sea Isle?

Kane for JvR would be a coup... the guy is all hustle, 30-goals, 170+ hits, one-punch KO'd Matt Cooke.... I have a soft spot for the kid, but nwhat exactly has JvR done outside of that one playoff run?
- Tomahawk

Prepare for the icy refreshness of MJL my friend.

(I do basically agree with you tho.)

Does this fall under the category sometimes the best deal is the deal that is not ever made?
- ravishingone

It falls under the bullpoop rumor wasn't true category.

Why complete a deal, and risk players involved finding out and getting upset/angry without knowing if the trade target would agree to waive his NMC to come here?

Kane for JvR would be a coup... the guy is all hustle, 30-goals, 170+ hits, one-punch KO'd Matt Cooke.... I have a soft spot for the kid, but nwhat exactly has JvR done outside of that one playoff run?
- Tomahawk

JvR was hurt last year and his minutes the previous years were pretty limited. I'm not opposed to the deal. How much you think Kane is looking to sign for?

It falls under the bullpoop rumor wasn't true category.

Why complete a deal, and risk players involved finding out and getting upset/angry without knowing if the trade target would agree to waive his NMC to come here?
- Jsaquella

Also, at this point Nash would agree to go anywhere.

It falls under the bullpoop rumor wasn't true category.

Why complete a deal, and risk players involved finding out and getting upset/angry without knowing if the trade target would agree to waive his NMC to come here?
- Jsaquella

They never announced who Columbus would be getting though, right?

Hockey Buzz Eklund‏@Eklund

Nothing to Nash to Philly yet. Flyers are in the mix, but I wouldn’t call them a favorite even. some mis-direction at work here.

They never announced who Columbus would be getting though, right?
- stveshdy

The names that he mentioned were JvR, Bob, Read, Voracek and Couturier...not that all were going, but that they had been discussed.

It falls under the bullpoop rumor wasn't true category.

Why complete a deal, and risk players involved finding out and getting upset/angry without knowing if the trade target would agree to waive his NMC to come here?
- Jsaquella

You would certainly have to believe Howson would know without question who Nash would waive his NMC for in a trade. However, with Howson anything is possible. I still believe in the end, Nash ends up with the Rangers.

The names that he mentioned were JvR, Bob, Read, Voracek and Couturier...not that all were going, but that they had been discussed.
- Jsaquella

I honestly dont know what the Flyers are thinking if they make this deal. How does this make them better? How much money are they taking back? How do you replace the players traded? How does your defense get upgraded? Too many questions for my liking.

The names that he mentioned were JvR, Bob, Read, Voracek and Couturier...not that all were going, but that they had been discussed.
- Jsaquella

Now you know it is a crap sandwich. Howson is interested in possibly acquiring a player he just agreed to trade a year ago in Voracek. Really, now that is funny.

You would certainly have to believe Howson would know without question who Nash would waive his NMC for in a trade. However, with Howson anything is possible. I still believe in the end, Nash ends up with the Rangers.
- ravishingone

I mean more from Holmgren's point of view.

Say he agreed to trade JvR, Bob, Read and a 1st for Nash and a prospect. The deal falls apart, but JvR, Bob and Read learn they were involved. How does that make them feel? How loyal can you be to a team that you would have been traded from if another player agreed to report?

Now you know it is a crap sandwich. Howson is interested in possibly acquiring a player he just agreed to trade a year ago in Voracek. Really, now that is funny.
- ravishingone

If he has the chance to unload Nash for younger talent and less money I can see it happening from his end.

I think Voracek could be traded. I just have a bad feeling after Homers press conference but I hope I'm wrong cause I like Jake a lot.

I mean more from Holmgren's point of view.

Say he agreed to trade JvR, Bob, Read and a 1st for Nash and a prospect. The deal falls apart, but JvR, Bob and Read learn they were involved. How does that make them feel? How loyal can you be to a team that you would have been traded from if another player agreed to report?
- Jsaquella

It's a business first after all... They all know that.

I mean more from Holmgren's point of view.

Say he agreed to trade JvR, Bob, Read and a 1st for Nash and a prospect. The deal falls apart, but JvR, Bob and Read learn they were involved. How does that make them feel? How loyal can you be to a team that you would have been traded from if another player agreed to report?
- Jsaquella

I dunno but sometimes a deal falls apart. Those players can either choose to believe the rumors or not. I don't think Homer announces who is being traded unless the deal actually happens. So if your a player its pretty much bogus news.

Nash and NYR...
http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...till-hot-after-rick-nash/

I don't think Nash is going to be traded unless the demands are lowered. His cap hit doesn't help his trade value so why would a team give up a fortune for him? I rather have 4-5 players then one guy.

Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Hate this word, but from separate “sources”… they’ve told me Rick Nash will end up a New York Ranger.
- stveshdy

But, but the MSG fan's chanted "We dont NEED you" when the BJ's played the Rags right before the deadline......I guess they could have used another goal scorer in the Devs series

If he has the chance to unload Nash for younger talent and less money I can see it happening from his end.

I think Voracek could be traded. I just have a bad feeling after Homers press conference but I hope I'm wrong cause I like Jake a lot.
- stveshdy

I think that was posturing by Homer at the season ending press conference and since that time:

http://www.csnphilly.com/...-on-new-co?blockID=720654

I think he ends up on the roster.

But, but the MSG fan's chanted "We dont NEED you" when the BJ's played the Rags right before the deadline......I guess they could have used another goal scorer in the Devs series
- KINGKENZO

Without Gaborik next year (until he returns) that team could really struggle to score goals.

It's a business first after all... They all know that.
- hereticpride

But, before even discussing things, and risking it, you ask, "Will the guy agree to come here?"

I dunno but sometimes a deal falls apart. Those players can either choose to believe the rumors or not. I don't think Homer announces who is being traded unless the deal actually happens. So if your a player its pretty much bogus news.
- stveshdy

Sure deals break down, but if you're offering that much for one guy, you ask beforehand if he'll agree to wiave to come here.

Sure deals break down, but if you're offering that much for one guy, you ask beforehand if he'll agree to wiave to come here.
- Jsaquella

I totally agree. Homer isn't an idiot and I think that question would be asked before he even wasted his time.

I mean more from Holmgren's point of view.

Say he agreed to trade JvR, Bob, Read and a 1st for Nash and a prospect. The deal falls apart, but JvR, Bob and Read learn they were involved. How does that make them feel? How loyal can you be to a team that you would have been traded from if another player agreed to report?
- Jsaquella

If this rumor is true, unfortunately I doubt a leak would come out from the Flyers ends. Let's face it, this team really knows how to lock down information. On the other end in Columbus, I'm not as sure.

But, before even discussing things, and risking it, you ask, "Will the guy agree to come here?"
- Jsaquella

That'd be tampering. But come on, it's a bogus rumor anyway. The guy would take any deal on the table at this point.