http://www.lapresse.ca/sp...et-marc-antoine-godin.php
- stinger67

stopped at 15 seconds for 2 reasons :

1 - Ooooo you guys are so controversial with Murray at #1!!!!!
2 - Brunet looking at the camera made me puke coffee and Kellogs's Just Right

I just find that for all the hype Subban gets, the results on the ice are very underwhelming.

I like him a lot, but his name is actually much bigger than his game imho.

He must be friend to Simon_Snake in Mathias Brunet's blog.

He once said Jeff Skinner would be good, so the Cap Breton Screaming Eagles hired him as a scout. Since then, he's a (frank)ing female genitalia "joe connaissant".
And everyone asks him counsel, esti.
- _nay_

The guy is alright and does scouting as a hobby on internet.



Mathias Brunet met him and plugged him with Screaming Eagles' GM.

I don't like his Richard attitude though.

stopped at 15 seconds for 2 reasons :

1 - Ooooo you guys are so controversial with Murray at #1!!!!!
2 - Brunet looking at the camera made me puke coffee and Kellogs's Just Right
- oniremosewa

Je trouve qu'il a l'air borderline trisomique

both have the Habs drafting Galchenyuk

The guy is alright and does scouting as a hobby on internet.



Mathias Brunet met him and plugged him with Screaming Eagles' GM.

I don't like his Richard attitude though.
- QuebecPride

Funny, that's exactly what I like about him.

Shorter term, obviously.
- Pecafan Fan

Oh, agreed.

I don't think Subban will ever put up the same points as Karlsson, but the POTENTIAL difference between them is not as great as is being said.

I just find that for all the hype Subban gets, the results on the ice are very underwhelming.

I like him a lot, but his name is actually much bigger than his game imho.
- Pecafan Fan

At what point would you accept to deal Subban?

Would you trade him straight up for Ryan?

Would you trade him (and the odd 2nd round pick) for Nash?

I just find that for all the hype Subban gets, the results on the ice are very underwhelming.

I like him a lot, but his name is actually much bigger than his game imho.
- Pecafan Fan

meh. He has been put in a difficult situation since Markov's demise. He has been playing first defensive pair minutes at 22 years old. It's fair to say he has done a good job so far...probably had to sacrifice some offense for it.

meh. He has been put in a difficult since Markov's demise. He has been playing first defensive pair minutes at 22 years old. It's fair to say he has done a good job so far...probably had to sacrifice some offense for it.
- stinger67

No doubt.

I just find that for all the hype Subban gets, the results on the ice are very underwhelming.

I like him a lot, but his name is actually much bigger than his game imho.
- Pecafan Fan

Je trouve qu'il a l'air borderline trisomique

both have the Habs drafting Galchenyuk
- stinger67

Remember when Garth Snow was the only guy on earth having fun hiding his intentions? LOL you guys will never know who I chose between Tavares and Duchene!! LOLOLOL

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Oh, agreed.

I don't think Subban will ever put up the same points as Karlsson, but the POTENTIAL difference between them is not as great as is being said.
- habby

If you had to chose, Subban or Karlsson?

If you had to chose, Subban or Karlsson?
- QuebecPride

What's your next question? Pronger or Schenn?

I just find that for all the hype Subban gets, the results on the ice are very underwhelming.

I like him a lot, but his name is actually much bigger than his game imho.
- Pecafan Fan

At the same stage he has more points than Karlsson had and is a more complete player. Karlsson is the best offensive d-man in the league last year, but he doesn't play in all situations. I'm not knocking him, I'm just saying some people are undervaluing PK. He was Mtl's best d-man last year and it wasn't close. Look at the group of guys Subban played with vs Karlsson.

At what point would you accept to deal Subban?

Would you trade him straight up for Ryan?

Would you trade him (and the odd 2nd round pick) for Nash?
- QuebecPride

Ryan - No.

Nash - in a heartbeat.

If you had to chose, Subban or Karlsson?
- QuebecPride

People can laugh all they want but I'd take PK. I think by the end of their careers he's the more complete player.

If he signs for more than 3 years, I fear it won't be under 5M.

3years 10M would have been my guess. 3 years 12M may be now.
- _nay_

are we talking genuine fear here of more just a little concern?

If you had to chose, Subban or Karlsson?
- QuebecPride

If you had to choose, Darche or Rocket Richard?

People can laugh all they want but I'd take PK. I think by the end of their careers he's the more complete player.
- habby

Lol

Lol
- hscesq

I want to laugh more than that

Lol
- hscesq

I know you agree with me.

At the same stage he has more points than Karlsson had and is a more complete player. Karlsson is the best offensive d-man in the season last year, but he doesn't play in all situations. I'm not knocking him, I'm just saying some people are undervaluing PK. He was Mtl's best d-man last year and it wasn't close. Look at the group of guys Subban played with vs Karlsson.
- habby

Kuba? Phillips? meh.

Je trouve qu'il a l'air borderline trisomique

both have the Habs drafting Galchenyuk
- stinger67

Les photos de LaPresse sont vraiment photoshoppées

S'il a l'air si magané comparé à sa photo, imagine Foglia

If you had to choose, Darche or Rocket Richard?
- hscesq

Wait. Did this "Rocket" character get 1st unit PP time?

Kuba? Phillips? meh.
- Pecafan Fan

I think to me the bottom line is really that Karlsson took over the defense and established himself as the number 1.

Subban, we're still hearing about game systems that don't fit him. defense partners that can complement him. He just doesn't give off any impression to me that he will ever take over this defense. Probably will end up being a great no. 2 guy but I don't see this ever becoming PK SUbban's team.