Maybe, but what would happen if he openly demanded a trade? How would that impact his trade value?
- As_I_See_It

His trade value would still be higher than Reimer's.

Edit: And D'amigo combined.

You mean the very same...

..."Soon to be elite power forward" who has had problems outside of hockey in Winnipeg and is rumored to want out of Winnipeg?

..."Decent number one goaltender" who is seriously considering leaving Winnipeg for the KHL, ultimately leaving the Jets with out a goalie and no return assets?
- As_I_See_It

so, trade your decent number one goalie who MIGHT consider leaving for the KHL and one of the best young power forwards in the game for a decent BACKUP goalie who should leave to play in the KHL, a young defenseman who had a lousy year and the fifth overall pick in a not so deep draft?

Makes little sense for Winnipeg.

Glad I could add to the "hysteria" of the Pavelec situation!

- Kane vs. Schenn = Apples and Oranges
- Pavelec is good, but not head and shoulders over Reimer. Pavelec is also useless to the Jets if he bolts for the KHL.
- Moving up four spots into the top 5 is HUGE.
- The Leafs could add an upgrade with a rospect or draft pick.

The proposal is clearly based on the rumors circulating around Kane not wanting to return Winnipeg and the threat of Pavelec leaving FOR NOTHING to the KHL.

Get it? Got it? Good!
- As_I_See_It

I bet if you took a pole of NHL GM's, if they had to start from scratch in goal that all 30 would say yes, I would build around Pavelec. I bet there is only one that would say the same about Reimer...

I bet if you took a pole of NHL GM's, if they had to start from scratch in goal that all 30 would say yes, I would build around Pavelec. I bet there is only one that would say the same about Reimer...
- 1970vintage

Burkie has never been accused of being the sharpest pencil in the pocket but he could not be that blind to choose Reimer.

I bet if you took a pole of NHL GM's, if they had to start from scratch in goal that all 30 would say yes, I would build around Pavelec. I bet there is only one that would say the same about Reimer...
- 1970vintage

The right answer was 0.

Burke has Reimer because he has nothing better. Not by choice.

Don't worry you won't be getting him . You will end up paying Bernier 4 mil a year.
Enjoy.
- VANTEL

Nice stab in the dark.

I think the Leafs will be paying X-Player X-million over his value!

way to go genius!

Nice stab in the dark.

I think the Leafs will be paying X-Player X-million over his value!

way to go genius!
- 13LEAFS01

English?

This was proposed in the Leafs thread yesterday, thought it was interesting...

5th overall + Schenn + Reimer (good Manitoba boy) + mid-level prospect (Mueller? or D'Amigo?)

For

9th overall + Kane + Pavelec
- As_I_See_It

This deal is too good for 2 guys who you have to overpay.

English?
- VANTEL

Let me translate!

This deal is too good for 2 guys who you have to overpay.
- 13LEAFS01

I agree. Keeping your crap is a better option than acquiring a power forward and a good goalie.

IMO

Take Subban at 9, and a project goalie late.

Find a stop gap like Harding or Clemenson for 2-3 years

Tell him to beat it if he won't sign for less than 3 million


If the Jets bend over for him you know they will be bending over over for Bermi in a year.

This deal is too good for 2 guys who you have to overpay.
- 13LEAFS01

According to Leaf fans

Kane is an overpayment
Pavelek is an overpayment
Nash is an overpayment
Luongo is an overpayment


But Grabovski at 5.5 M per for 5 years (Makes more than Kesler Kane and Luongo ) is fine. Do you see why your team has not made the playoffs recently

Did you just sign Finger yesterday to 4 year /14 M contract?

According to Leaf fans

Kane is an overpayment
Pavelek is an overpayment
Nash is an overpayment
Luongo is an overpayment


But Grabovski at 5.5 M per for 5 years (Makes more than Kesler Kane and Luongo ) is fine. Do you see why your team has not made the playoffs recently

Did you just sign Finger yesterday to 4 year /14 M contract?
- VANTEL

More obsessing.

No, you're ragged on because the fanbase always tries to trade 3 of their B+ prospects(not to mention a garbage contract) for Super Stars, who are often magically and secretly drawn to the Blue & White because they grew up there.
- hereticpride

This

More obsessing.
- spade_77

Not obsessing . I am interested in Kane for the Canucks . We make them a legit offer for him ,or they can listen to a lottery teams throw away proposals. Not obsessing.

You won't be trading Schneider......you're going to get rid of Lu for a case of (frank)ing gatorade........

then all you nucks fans will be in here saying how great shedding the contract was and that the return was decent given the $ and term for Lu

This site needs an emoticon the puts a foot in its mouth just for nucks fans
- jimdavis

here you go:

This was proposed in the Leafs thread yesterday, thought it was interesting...

5th overall + Schenn + Reimer (good Manitoba boy) + mid-level prospect (Mueller? or D'Amigo?)

For

9th overall + Kane + Pavelec
- As_I_See_It

Ugggg being a Leaf fan, when I see things like this it pains me. With the Leafs having a large fan base, I guess the amount of crazy is bound to increase. Of course I would love this trade to happen. If it did, I would assume my dream to be a GM in the NHL would not be out of the question.

Although I will say, we always get bashed by other teams but in reality take a look at your own teams and your dumb fans.

Peter Tessier: Pavelec Hysteria in Winnipeg: Not worth 4.5m
The hype machine goes into overdrive in Winnipeg as rumours and speculation fuel confusion of Ondrej Pavelec.
- Peter.Tessier

considering what guys like Halak are making, I'm not surprised they are asking for this. It's pretty much the going rate for a starting goalie.

Ugggg being a Leaf fan, when I see things like this it pains me. With the Leafs having a large fan base, I guess the amount of crazy is bound to increase. Of course I would love this trade to happen. If it did, I would assume my dream to be a GM in the NHL would not be out of the question.

Although I will say, we always get bashed by other teams but in reality take a look at your own teams and your dumb fans.
- jsam7

i have no idea what you mean.

According to Leaf fans

Kane is an overpayment
Pavelek is an overpayment
Nash is an overpayment
Luongo is an overpayment


But Grabovski at 5.5 M per for 5 years (Makes more than Kesler Kane and Luongo ) is fine. Do you see why your team has not made the playoffs recently

Did you just sign Finger yesterday to 4 year /14 M contract?
- VANTEL

Just cause Kane and Pavelec want more money than they are worth it doesn't mean that every other player in the league is getting the money they deserve.

Get the pacifier out of your mouth and listen.

I never talk about Grabovski or Finger or Gomez.....i dont care how much they make. All athletes are overpaid if you ask me.

Now stop talking to me so I can get on with my day.

Let me throw this scenario out.

What if Pavelec leaves for the KHL. Would it make sense to offer Vancouver Byfuglien for Schneider straight up?

For giggles right?

Let me throw this scenario out.

What if Pavelec leaves for the KHL. Would it make sense to offer Vancouver Byfuglien for Schneider straight up?

For giggles right?
- Peter.Tessier

I threw a scenario out the other day about that.It was not well received.

A Kane package would get the fans interested .Not too sure about Gillis but would excite the fans. Gillis likes players that are also good inthe community as you know.

Let me throw this scenario out.

What if Pavelec leaves for the KHL. Would it make sense to offer Vancouver Byfuglien for Schneider straight up?

For giggles right?
- Peter.Tessier

Byfuglien would be welcome, but not for Schneider. Buffy and change for Lu would be worth considering. The cap hit is about equal...

Byfuglien would be welcome, but not for Schneider. Buffy and change for Lu would be worth considering. The cap hit is about equal...
- micah555

buff has red flags all around him. i question his work ethic and dedication to improve (especially after winning the cup.)

the guy has all world talent and that allows him to play amazing from september to january. once he hits the 40 game mark, his lack of conditioning becomes a factor. his production tails off and mark my words, he'll have injuries in the 2nd half of seasons. this is usually due to lack of fitness.

why did his lack of fitness not affect him in chi? b/c he was used as a 4th line plug/extra D for the season and then given bigger minutes in the playoffs. if you want vintage buff, you have to rest him during the regular season or improve his fitness. the fitness issue has dogged him his entire life. i don't see it changing now.