Aww shucks, you're just sayin that to make me popular again aren't ya?
Thanks buddy.
- wolfos412

had to re-balance the scale

Google-What does decalisse mean?

Answer: Decalisse is a swear word from the french from the province of Quebec (Canada) and it is quite vulgar.


... google still didn't answer my question.
- wolfos412

slang for GTFO

just sign someone like biron for a year or two .. vet prescence.. not an all star by any means.. but reimer has the skill.. however when his confidence gets derailed and just needs a guy to step in and give him relief
- Dozzer

if we can get solid goaltending for cheap, Im all for it. If we can get GREAT goaltending for real assets, im also all for it. I think our biggest focus should be getting a true tender for the time being until we see what we may/may not have in Reimer Scrivens. If Luongo costs more than a salary dump and a roster player/prospect we can afford to lose, I dont want him either. I hope all the convos we've had you realized I was only saying if he came CHEAP.


Your beer invite has officially been retracted.

If the system is not fixed in Toronto, it wont really matter if its Reimer, scrivens or Biron in net. Hopefully Carlyle can tighten up the D so our goalies can get some confidence and run with it. Biron looks good because he played on a good team with a good D. I would argue his numbers would not be much better on TO last year than Reimer/Gus
- senstroll

maybe Burke is hoping Carlyles more defensive minded system will help the young goalies?

oh yeah, this is what i prefer.. and .. just as a side note.. the last goalie who lead the ahl club to the finals earned a spot with the big club the next year..

and had the leafs within one game of the final...

just sayin
- Dozzer

Or let Reimer and Scrivens duke it out. Best case scenario, they emerge as a true 1A/B tandem, worst case scenario, both don't play well, and we draft high again next year
- gravyface

IMO, we cant afford for another "worst case scenario"...its really going to start to work against us, more than the last 7-8 years have.

I'm with you.
Mid season, I woulda said grab Harding/Biron/Vokoun etc....but after the way Scrivens improved over the year, he deserves a shot.
- Barx

You guys gotta give it a rest. Lu to TO is virtually a done deal. Its a good thing too, because he can mentor Riemer, who can be a decent back up for 3-4 seasons, then if he is ready, Lu moves on and Riemer ascends, if not, Luongo can be good till he's 38, just like Tim Thomas. There is no downside to the Leafs getting Luongo - cheap cap hit, cheap to aquire, potentially best goalie in the world, plus you have no idea how good Phaneuf and Schenn and Gardner will be with a defensive coach and a real goalie.

I hear ya, and it sounds good in theory to a leaf fan....prolly not so much to a seasoned veteran looking to play back-up on a contender as his career winds down.
NYR or Philly have a wee tad more to offer I'm sure.
- Barx

Toronto is only attractive to vet goalies who no longer can have the attitude that they want to go with a winner. Biron will explore other options before considering Toronto.

Bottom line: Luongo is far superior to anything out there.

i know! best thing i read all day
- Dozzer

I've been saying all along I didn't think Burke would make any "Panic" moves. I don't really think he's concerned about losing his job. I'm starting to think that ownership old and new has accepted that this organization needs to finally be built the right way...

I could totally be wrong here, but I like the optics of the situation at least.

Hi everyone! Now I'm off to lunch!!

if we can get solid goaltending for cheap, Im all for it. If we can get GREAT goaltending for real assets, im also all for it. I think our biggest focus should be getting a true tender for the time being until we see what we may/may not have in Reimer Scrivens. If Luongo costs more than a salary dump and a roster player/prospect we can afford to lose, I dont want him either. I hope all the convos we've had you realized I was only saying if he came CHEAP.


Youre beer invite has officially been retracted.
- noename09

you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
how are you going to 'see what we have in Reimer/Scrivens' if you are putting Luongo between the pipes for the next decade????

Google-What does decalisse mean?

Answer: Decalisse is a swear word from the french from the province of Quebec (Canada) and it is quite vulgar.


... google still didn't answer my question.
- wolfos412

IMO, we cant afford for another "worst case scenario"...its really going to start to work against us, more than the last 7-8 years have.
- noename09

We can afford it next year with that Mckinnon guy comin up, also I think the year after there is a Connor McDavid that teams are already drooling for.

maybe Burke is hoping Carlyles more defensive minded system will help the young goalies?
- peddy-93

Could be... with his comment about going into the season with Reimer/Scrivens... he is probably willing to see what happens... and if its the same old shyte... look for a starter.

I would be ok with that... I know I will be swearing and screaming if we start the season 2-8-2 ... but right now it seems like a good idea

I hear ya, and it sounds good in theory to a leaf fan....prolly not so much to a seasoned veteran looking to play back-up on a contender as his career winds down.
NYR or Philly have a wee tad more to offer I'm sure.
- Barx

IF thats what they want then yeah, w/e.. go with the kids...

however one of them might be willing to take the bait closer to september when they realize they arent getting offered a contract elsewhere

you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
how are you going to 'see what we have in Reimer/Scrivens' if you are putting Luongo between the pipes for the next decade????
- Barx

they can still play 20-30 games. And to be honest, I dont see either of them being legit starters...just saying to play them again in HOPES that they are, isnt a good idea.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/nhl/article/1214028--cox-toronto-only-logical-destination-for-roberto-luongo?bn=1

Cox saying what most of us are saying, or at least thinking.

My money's still on

Kadri
Komi
35th

Hell I'd even throw in 2013's 2nd if we knew that we could turn around and flip Reimer to CBJ for LA's 1st.

In which case I'd be all for drafting Dansk
- AngryWhiteMale

While Cox is a complete idiot, I think that might be too much for Lou.
Even everyone and their mom knows he wont play longer than 6 years....I wouldn't give up Kadri just yet..maybe Colborne instead.
But we have to get Lou.

You guys gotta give it a rest. Lu to TO is virtually a done deal. Its a good thing too, because he can mentor Riemer, who can be a decent back up for 3-4 seasons, then if he is ready, Lu moves on and Riemer ascends, if not, Luongo can be good till he's 38, just like Tim Thomas. There is no downside to the Leafs getting Luongo - cheap cap hit, cheap to aquire, potentially best goalie in the world, plus you have no idea how good Phaneuf and Schenn and Gardner will be with a defensive coach and a real goalie.
- Jimmy_T

Jimmy_T the baddest man in the whole damn town

You guys gotta give it a rest. Lu to TO is virtually a done deal. Its a good thing too, because he can mentor Riemer, who can be a decent back up for 3-4 seasons, then if he is ready, Lu moves on and Riemer ascends, if not, Luongo can be good till he's 38, just like Tim Thomas. There is no downside to the Leafs getting Luongo - cheap cap hit, cheap to aquire, potentially best goalie in the world, plus you have no idea how good Phaneuf and Schenn and Gardner will be with a defensive coach and a real goalie.
- Jimmy_T

this is silly.
reimer doesn't need a mentor for the next decade.
if all you want is a 'mentor' you sign a guy like Biron for a year or two.

IMO, we cant afford for another "worst case scenario"...its really going to start to work against us, more than the last 7-8 years have.
- noename09

Yeah, but for all our sucking, we don't have the blue chip prospects; I'm sure we can endure it as long as it takes to rebuild properly instead of finding shortcuts and trading our young players and picks for other team's expendable assets (there's usually a reason why they're expendable too; I'm looking at you, Luongo... )

Toronto is only attractive to vet goalies who no longer can have the attitude that they want to go with a winner. Biron will explore other options before considering Toronto.

Bottom line: Luongo is far superior to anything out there.
- Atomic Wedgie

but gillis wont give burke a deal

so no luongo

perfect

Could be... with his comment about going into the season with Reimer/Scrivens... he is probably willing to see what happens... and if its the same old shyte... look for a starter.

I would be ok with that... I know I will be swearing and screaming if we start the season 2-8-2 ... but right now it seems like a good idea
- senstroll

but if we no make zee playoffs, burke is fired that's why im quite shocked that Burke is ok with going in with reims/scrivs

You guys gotta give it a rest. Lu to TO is virtually a done deal. Its a good thing too, because he can mentor Riemer, who can be a decent back up for 3-4 seasons, then if he is ready, Lu moves on and Riemer ascends, if not, Luongo can be good till he's 38, just like Tim Thomas. There is no downside to the Leafs getting Luongo - cheap cap hit, cheap to aquire, potentially best goalie in the world, plus you have no idea how good Phaneuf and Schenn and Gardner will be with a defensive coach and a real goalie.
- Jimmy_T

I actually think that Reimer behind a guy like Luongo for a few years would further his career MUCH more than taking over again this year and failing.

this is silly.
reimer doesn't need a mentor for the next decade.
if all you want is a 'mentor' you sign a guy like Biron for a year or two.
- Barx

can we get giguere back?

Or let Reimer and Scrivens duke it out. Best case scenario, they emerge as a true 1A/B tandem, worst case scenario, both don't play well, and we draft high again next year
- gravyface

Get back to reality.
Reimer is not a number 1.
Scrivens.....jury is still out.

I don't believe for a second Burke will be okay with starting with Reimer and Ben Scrivens. Scrivens was brutal in his short stint with the Leafs last season, he's not ready.

Burke made these comments public to better negotiate a trade... He's bluffing... Pretending he's going to walk away... It's smart really