IF thats what they want then yeah, w/e.. go with the kids...

however one of them might be willing to take the bait closer to september when they realize they arent getting offered a contract elsewhere
- Dozzer

So your plan is to go with a goalie that 29 other teams don't think is good enough to be offered an NHL contract?

this is silly.
reimer doesn't need a mentor for the next decade.
if all you want is a 'mentor' you sign a guy like Biron for a year or two.
- Barx

Biron? what, to mentor him on how to be a mediocre goalie?

they can still play 20-30 games. And to be honest, I dont see either of them being legit starters...just saying to play them again in HOPES that they are, isnt a good idea.
- noename09

...and if they suck, what are the consequences?
we land a potential superstar with the 1st or 2nd pick overall.
start fresh in 2013/2014.

but if we no make zee playoffs, burke is fired that's why im quite shocked that Burke is ok with going in with reims/scrivs
- peddy-93

Burke wants out. We bring in Nonis, he fires Carlyle and brings up Eakins

but gillis wont give burke a deal

so no luongo

perfect
- Dozzer

Says who?
This is whole Gillis/Burke thing is a crock of crap.
What is this TMZ now?

Get back to reality.
Reimer is not a number 1.
Scrivens.....jury is still out.
- Fakepartofme

Ok, U_G lite: same pessimism, but a weaker prose...

What you have in Riemer and Scrivens is two potentially alright goalies. Alright goalies have anomolistic years where they perform like Johnathan Quick did this year. Anyone who thinks Quick is going to dominate the NHL for a decade and go to the HOF is an idiot.

What you have in Luongo is a guy with pedigree. There are very few pedigree goalies - Miller, Luongo, Kipprussoff, Lunquist.........these guys are consistant year in and year out. At anyone time, there is maybe 4 or 5 of them in the Leauge and they are probably the rarest of all kinds of players.

Bottom line is that anyone capable of making the NHL can go on a Gigure - Quick - Raycroft - Mason - Thomas - Theodore - Halek - kind of run. but find me a guy who is a star for 5 straight years and I will find you a hall of famer.

Luongo is one of the rarest of NHL players and goalies are good almost to 40. The cap hit is cheap and it will be cheap to get him. Its a done deal.

Biron? what, to mentor him on how to be a mediocre goalie?
- DoubleDown

come on really?
that isn't what 'mentoring' is about.
it's about confidence, professionalism, focus.
a goalie coach teaches the technical game, a mentor shows the intangibles

but if we no make zee playoffs, burke is fired that's why im quite shocked that Burke is ok with going in with reims/scrivs
- peddy-93

Getting Luongo saves his job? nope ..that guarantees him nothing

Yeah, but for all our sucking, we don't have the blue chip prospects; I'm sure we can endure it as long as it takes to rebuild properly instead of finding shortcuts and trading our young players and picks for other team's expendable assets (there's usually a reason why they're expendable too; I'm looking at you, Luongo... )
- gravyface

but see, thats the point. Luongo "can be" attained for non-youth, non-real assets...if you follow

you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
how are you going to 'see what we have in Reimer/Scrivens' if you are putting Luongo between the pipes for the next decade????
- Barx

Lou wont be between the pipes for a decade...anyone with half a lemon is his/her head knows he wont go past 6.
Heck even when he signed the deal, people were saying he wouldn't complete the last 4 years.

What you have in Riemer and Scrivens is two potentially alright goalies. Alright goalies have anomolistic years where they perform like Johnathan Quick did this year. Anyone who thinks Quick is going to dominate the NHL for a decade and go to the HOF is an idiot.

What you have in Luongo is a guy with pedigree. There are very few pedigree goalies - Miller, Luongo, Kipprussoff, Lunquist.........these guys are consistant year in and year out. At anyone time, there is maybe 4 or 5 of them in the Leauge and they are probably the rarest of all kinds of players.

Bottom line is that anyone capable of making the NHL can go on a Gigure - Quick - Raycroft - Mason - Thomas - Theodore - Halek - kind of run. but find me a guy who is a star for 5 straight years and I will find you a hall of famer.

Luongo is one of the rarest of NHL players and goalies are good almost to 40. The cap hit is cheap and it will be cheap to get him. Its a done deal.
- Jimmy_T

Jimmy T-Bone has spoken, fellas.

I actually think that Reimer behind a guy like Luongo for a few years would further his career MUCH more than taking over again this year and failing.
- noename09

Yepp. People forget that Reimer is only 24 years old and has only played 71 NHL games


On top of that, Ben Scrivens is 25 turning 26 and will be a UFA after two more seasons

Ok, U_G lite: same pessimism, but a weaker prose...
- gravyface

Nothing intelligent to say, so you make an 'UG" comment..way to use your head!
It's not pessimism, its reality.

Burke wants out. We bring in Nonis, he fires Carlyle and brings up Eakins
- wolfos412

Burke will never be fired. He doesnt even have to make the playoffs next year. He is building a winner slowly and surely. He does not care about saving his job or making the playoffs as an 8th seed (and dont give me that LA crap, they were the best 8th seed in sports history )

The head coach hardly matters. I never understood why fans care so much about the coach, its dumb. Put a bag over his head and you couldnt tell the difference between Carlysle and Eakins.

So your plan is to go with a goalie that 29 other teams don't think is good enough to be offered an NHL contract?
- Atomic Wedgie

my plan is to stick to the plan and stop bringing in vets

live and die with the kids

i'd rather miss the playoffs with youth then lose in the first couple rounds with vets

You guys gotta give it a rest. Lu to TO is virtually a done deal. Its a good thing too, because he can mentor Riemer, who can be a decent back up for 3-4 seasons, then if he is ready, Lu moves on and Riemer ascends, if not, Luongo can be good till he's 38, just like Tim Thomas. There is no downside to the Leafs getting Luongo - cheap cap hit, cheap to aquire, potentially best goalie in the world, plus you have no idea how good Phaneuf and Schenn and Gardner will be with a defensive coach and a real goalie.
- Jimmy_T

Well said

What you have in Riemer and Scrivens is two potentially alright goalies. Alright goalies have anomolistic years where they perform like Johnathan Quick did this year. Anyone who thinks Quick is going to dominate the NHL for a decade and go to the HOF is an idiot.

What you have in Luongo is a guy with pedigree. There are very few pedigree goalies - Miller, Luongo, Kipprussoff, Lunquist.........these guys are consistant year in and year out. At anyone time, there is maybe 4 or 5 of them in the Leauge and they are probably the rarest of all kinds of players.

Bottom line is that anyone capable of making the NHL can go on a Gigure - Quick - Raycroft - Mason - Thomas - Theodore - Halek - kind of run. but find me a guy who is a star for 5 straight years and I will find you a hall of famer.

Luongo is one of the rarest of NHL players and goalies are good almost to 40. The cap hit is cheap and it will be cheap to get him. Its a done deal.
- Jimmy_T

sounds great.
he'll be ready to retire by the time the Leafs can compete.

Jimmy T-Bone has spoken, fellas.
- gravyface

He's right.
.....and everyone wishes you wouldn't.

Burke will never be fired. He doesnt even have to make the playoffs next year. He is building a winner slowly and surely. He does not care about saving his job or making the playoffs as an 8th seed (and dont give me that LA crap, they were the best 8th seed in sports history )

The head coach hardly matters. I never understood why fans care so much about the coach, its dumb. Put a bag over his head and you couldnt tell the difference between Carlysle and Eakins.
- Jimmy_T

You really think that?

Lou wont be between the pipes for a decade...anyone with half a lemon is his/her head knows he wont go past 6.
Heck even when he signed the deal, people were saying he wouldn't complete the last 4 years.
- Fakepartofme

Brodeur and Hasek must have had lemons in their head.

but gillis wont give burke a deal

so no luongo

perfect
- Dozzer

Luongo for Komisarek and D'Amigo.

Feel free to pile meaningless crap on either side of the deal to make it balance out - and I don't care which side you pile it on (or both).

I don't believe for a second Burke will be okay with starting with Reimer and Ben Scrivens. Scrivens was brutal in his short stint with the Leafs last season, he's not ready.

Burke made these comments public to better negotiate a trade... He's bluffing... Pretending he's going to walk away... It's smart really
- ejeezy

more or less what I was thinking....I find it hard to believe hes the LEAST bit comfortable rolling with Reimer as the go to guy again.

Burke will never be fired. He doesnt even have to make the playoffs next year. He is building a winner slowly and surely. He does not care about saving his job or making the playoffs as an 8th seed (and dont give me that LA crap, they were the best 8th seed in sports history )

The head coach hardly matters. I never understood why fans care so much about the coach, its dumb. Put a bag over his head and you couldnt tell the difference between Carlysle and Eakins.
- Jimmy_T

this is just plain silly.

Luongo for Komisarek and D'Amigo.

Feel free to pile meaningless crap on either side of the deal to make it balance out - and I don't care which side you pile it on (or both).
- Atomic Wedgie

that is almost gainey-esque.