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Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:00 PM ET
Nm.

So...Bobby Ryan a Leaf?

- sanfordnson


nope...someone elses baggage.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
lol.. we dont have jason blake to trade to them anymore

oh wait.. he's FA!!

ok ok ok sign blake and trade him to the ducks for ryan.. that sounds fair

- Dozzer


you should probably wait for him to take 15 shots on net in the first 2 games, then trade him while his value is high
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
Nm.

So...Bobby Ryan a Leaf?

- sanfordnson


just finalizing the deal and the paperwork, 95% #DONE #confirmed #Leafs #Ducks
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
you should probably wait for him to take 15 shots on net in the first 2 games, then trade him while his value is high
- noename09


i wonder if he thinks he gets paid per shot? lol
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
i understand the argument ffs

i just dont agree with it

- Dozzer

Fair enough then.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
As a leafs fan i hope they do take grigorenko at number 5 if hes still available and yaks and galchenyuk are gone as well. If you can play hockey and put up that many points with mono your a champ. i hope burkes not an idiot and selects a defenseman
- orrshammerfist


apparently this grigo kid could be 20.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
this is what I say....so much baggage will be off the slate after next season.
the leafs will be a prime postition to take runs at some solid ufa's like clowe, getzlaf and perry,hartnell, etc........

- Barx

There are no solid UFAs anymore.

Last year, the second best centre available was Connolly. The only UFA that was of significance the year before was Kovalchuk.

You can't build a team based on the idea that you are going to sign one guy a year, for which you have a 1 in 29 chance.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
just finalizing the deal and the paperwork, 95% #DONE #confirmed #Leafs #Ducks
- peddy-93


still follow asianblackguyonceinjail ?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
picking apart people's posts and grammar is a bannable offense in the CoC
- Dozzer

So its my fault he cannot use proper words in the correct context?
I wasn't picking it apart....just offering advice.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
Is that good or bad?
- Atomic Wedgie

gomez for mcdonagh......
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
i wonder if he thinks he gets paid per shot? lol
- Dozzer


so you really dont actually want beer, do you. Cause I swear, Ive posted this like 10 times and youre ignoring my beer invite like the plague. Im starting to get the feeling you dont even like beer, its all just a farce!
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
You should also wonder the impact of his contract in years 4..5...6..7..
8..9...10

- Gunslinger


I'm pretty confident that as long as he's healthy, he'll be effective through year 6. Afterwards he'll have collected much of his contract's value, and if he wants to, can just decide to hang them up.

I doubt he sits through the last 3-4 years of his contract when he knows he's washed up and hasn't got a lot of moeny on the line. Esp, if the alternative is living comfortably in florida as opposed to TOR.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
apparently this grigo kid could be 20.
- noename09

Besides that, I really hope the leafs do not grab him
orrshammerfist
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
apparently this grigo kid could be 20.
- noename09


lol maybe he'll be more nhl ready then if hes at 100%
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
apparently this grigo kid could be 20.
- noename09

i dont believe those rumours
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
There are no solid UFAs anymore.

Last year, the second best centre available was Connolly. The only UFA that was of significance the year before was Kovalchuk.

You can't build a team based on the idea that you are going to sign one guy a year, for which you have a 1 in 29 chance.

- Atomic Wedgie

it's a huge ufa crop, some will be available.
im sure they can add one or two.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
still follow asianblackguyonceinjail ?
- noename09

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
I can't wait til' U_G ruins you in an argument.
- Unholy_Forward

You'll be waiting a while....and its never happened.
hooligoon
Location: BBB Bring Burke Back
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
So its my fault he cannot use proper words in the correct context?
I wasn't picking it apart....just offering advice.

- Fakepartofme


Advice, that's a good way to look at it.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
Saturday, June 23 Quarter-Final - Knockout Stage - Game #3 Spain vs France

Should be gooooood
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
plain and simple, I think most of us are in agreement.

option 1: Luongo
only if we do not give up anything of significance and only if Van takes salary back like Connolly, Lombardi, Army, or Komi.
If Van asks for anything else, other than a salary dump and a middle prospect, then this is a no go.

Option 2: backup plan
We are quite content to ride out Reimer and Scrivens for a year to see what we have in the goaltending department. This will be Reimer's chance to show that last year was poor due to injury, and it gives Scrivens a chance to see what he can do. Scrivens was the best goalie in the AHL in both the regular season and the playoffs. You have to reward that kind of play by promoting him to the big club.

Things to remember
goalies can be rather fickle. Big prospects can fail, and late drafted goalies can excel (see Lundqvist).
We still will have Rynnas and Owuya to play with the Marlies next year. We could potentially draft a goalie this year if we trade our second round pick and a player to a team to get a mid to late round 1st. This could mean that we might also have either Vasilevski, Dansk, or Subban as a prospect.

Essentially, we will have 4 prospect goaltenders (Reimer, Scrivens, Rynnas, Owuya), and if one, just one, works out to be a legit starter, it costs us nothing but time.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
Besides that, I really hope the leafs do not grab him
- Fakepartofme

really. who needs skill.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
Fair enough then.
- Fakepartofme


lol is that all we had to do?

agree to disagree?



in seriousness tho, i do understand your argument.. you are saying that a few picks n prospects are worth giving up to make a move that would ultimately give you're current young group some valuable experience

i agree with you just so you know.. just not with the leafs current group.. give it 3 or 4 more years... i will lean more towards your side of things then.. because thats when burke;s picks will have made it through their development systems (while winning and playing meaningful hockey) and will be vying for spots with the leafs

that will be when i think its time to make the bold moves.. until then.. stay in the stock the cupboard cycle.. rid yourself of the vets as fast as possible and live and die by the kids.

just my opinion is all. i dont think this current group is even close to being talented enough to worry about post season success..... yet. they are getting there.. just need to stay the course
Sherratt0204
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
I hate to break it to everyone, but based on Burkes talk today which is posted on hot stove, there is nothing on the burner, there will be no blockbuster trades.....another year of more downs then ups......we might get lucky and get 8th spot ...enjoy the summer cause its going to be a long season next year :/
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
plain and simple, I think most of us are in agreement.

option 1: Luongo
only if we do not give up anything of significance and only if Van takes salary back like Connolly, Lombardi, Army, or Komi.
If Van asks for anything else, other than a salary dump and a middle prospect, then this is a no go.

Option 2: backup plan
We are quite content to ride out Reimer and Scrivens for a year to see what we have in the goaltending department. This will be Reimer's chance to show that last year was poor due to injury, and it gives Scrivens a chance to see what he can do. Scrivens was the best goalie in the AHL in both the regular season and the playoffs. You have to reward that kind of play by promoting him to the big club.

Things to remember
goalies can be rather fickle. Big prospects can fail, and late drafted goalies can excel (see Lundqvist).
We still will have Rynnas and Owuya to play with the Marlies next year. We could potentially draft a goalie this year if we trade our second round pick and a player to a team to get a mid to late round 1st. This could mean that we might also have either Vasilevski, Dansk, or Subban as a prospect.

Essentially, we will have 4 prospect goaltenders, and if one, just one, works out to be a legit starter, it costs us nothing but time.

- ILoveLamp


want one of them with our 2nd.
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