That's your opinion, I would take Grabo over pleks. I'll give you Price and Subban but this is Pacioretty first big season. Kulimen had 30 goals last year, then this year he struggled. How about we wait and see if Pacs can repeat before saying he is better than Grabo?
- Allstarzz

Pac scored 14 in 40 games the season before last. he's kept this pace for well over a season.

That's your opinion, I would take Grabo over pleks. I'll give you Price and Subban but this is Pacioretty first big season. Kulimen had 30 goals last year, then this year he struggled. How about we wait and see if Pacs can repeat before saying he is better than Grabo?
- Allstarzz

I said arguably.

Pleks is a premiere PK/shutdown center, is he not? Only 1 year older, and puts up about the same amount of points.

It's a easy decision to me.

you're not really taking anything i say to the clown seriously are you?
- DoubleDown

My bad, lmao.

Think Columbus is gonna go with Filip Forsberg eh....


Craig Hartsburg begs to differ lol

Oh, that was easy. Pleks gets over 3 minutes of ice time on the PK a game. Grabo? 17 seconds.

Age is similar, Pleks seems to put up higher points...how is this even a discussion?

Grabo is great, but given the choice between the two? No brainer.

Oh, that was easy. Pleks gets over 3 minutes of ice time on the PK a game. Grabo? 17 seconds.

Age is similar, Pleks seems to put up higher points...how is this even a discussion?

Grabo is great, but given the choice between the two? No brainer.
- Blackstrom2

FWIW, Grabo plays against the opposition's top line in a "shutdown" role. If he had softer minutes he'd be putting up more points. Gives a good 25-30 goals in the shutdown role too.

FWIW, Grabo plays against the opposition's top line in a "shutdown" role. If he had softer minutes he'd be putting up more points. Gives a good 25-30 goals in the shutdown role too.
- Brian Huddle

But Pleks puts up more points and on the PK while also playing this shutdown role. So.

Again, nothing against Grabo, but this is a very easy decision, in my opinion.

Brian Huddle: With the Third Pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft, Montreal Selects...
Alex Galchenyuk
- Brian Huddle

But Pleks puts up more points and on the PK while also playing this shutdown role. So.

Again, nothing against Grabo, but this is a very easy decision, in my opinion.
- Blackstrom2

Grabo is not bad at all just Pleks Does it better look, who he played with this year....it's a joke

But Pleks puts up more points and on the PK while also playing this shutdown role. So.

Again, nothing against Grabo, but this is a very easy decision, in my opinion.
- Blackstrom2

I think most gms would share your opinion, not a big gap between both players, but Plek is more proven and more versatile

I think most gms would share your opinion, not a big gap between both players, but Plek is more proven and more versatile
- Traceur

The big thing for me is that he leads the Habs in PK time as a forward, only behind Gorges, and he has all that playoff experience.

I like Grabo, but this is a no brainer.

Think Columbus is gonna go with Filip Forsberg eh....


Craig Hartsburg begs to differ lol
- t_leafs21

Murray bro Murray

Brian Huddle: With the Third Pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft, Montreal Selects...
Alex Galchenyuk
- Brian Huddle

I'll hate this pick pretty soon, methinks.

and some people wonder why leaf fans are hated.
- acresd

Let's be fair here, he's not a Leafs fan, he's a troll.

Let's be fair here, he's not a Leafs fan, he's a troll.
- Scabeh

I'm a Leafs fan, but I hope I'm not hated. =P

I'm a Leafs fan, but I hope I'm not hated. =P



- Brian Huddle

Don't worry B-Hud. You're loved despite being a Leafs fan!

Don't worry B-Hud. You're loved despite being a Leafs fan!
- Scabeh

Hey, good reasoning that. Not like we can just reverse that kind of argument.

You would take a smallish soft 2nd line center who's never got more than 60 points in a season before PK Subban ?

Also, Subban imoproved is defensive side a lot those past 2 years (that's also why is offensive production diminished a bit I think, because the coach had him more focused on D). He's now probably our best D in his zone after Gorges.
- Popofjc

i dont agree with the guy your talking to but grabo is far from soft... guy may not make many hits but hes nose first into every corner all game

Why wouldn't Columbus pick him up with the 2nd pick?

Why wouldn't Columbus pick him up with the 2nd pick?
- chelios_24

There's still a big ? on Galchenyuk. Also, rumors point towards someone else that they like a lot at 2.

Future number 1 center. Habs building the right way, but it's gonna be a slow process.
- tomburton99

Kind of late to the dance here, but I don't think the Habs are far away from contending at all. In fact, I'd say they are a player or two away from competing with Boston for the NE division. They severely underachieved last year.

Kind of late to the dance here, but I don't think the Habs are far away from contending at all. In fact, I'd say they are a player or two away from competing with Boston for the NE division. They severely underachieved last year.
- FinAddict

They are the worst team in the NHL and that's a no-brainer.

because you wanna be in agreement with Brian Burke. he's built such a juggernaut in Toronto.
- DoubleDown

k it may not be a juggernaut but its considerably better positioned than when he started... he just built his expectations waaaay too high... before he came our youngest player was like 56 and a half... now we may be just as bad but at least its with guys on the way up not on the way down

Habs fan are so great. If we don't agree with your crap (Price is the best goaltender in the world, Subban is the best young defenseman in the league, Pacioretty will be a consistant 50 goal scorer,...) than we are considered trolls.

That's why I stay away from this site for long periods of time, I'm sick of the abuse from you Quebec people.
- thomas81

NOW I KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU'RE BUSHKORN!!!

Also, racist.

Kind of late to the dance here, but I don't think the Habs are far away from contending at all. In fact, I'd say they are a player or two away from competing with Boston for the NE division. They severely underachieved last year.
- FinAddict

they have some good pieces but i still think they are a couple years away. Tinordi and Beaulieu probably need at least two years of development. Leblanc needs some more seasoning. Gomez needs to go. But the do have good pieces in place. Subban, Price, Pacs, Plex, Desharnais etc.