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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:23 PM ET


gonna be a BEAST

- FlyerMike18

His head is Datsyukian. Could have a bright future if he adds a little more muscle up top.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
Translation: They drafted a body type/ athleticism profile. Game is very raw. At least Flyers will have up to 4 years to evaluate him because he's going to play collegiate hockey.
- bmeltzer

could they have done this in a later rnd? concerns me to go that far off the board in higher rnds.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:25 PM ET
could they have done this in a later rnd? concerns me to go that far off the board in higher rnds.
- isaiah520


Who's board did they go that far off of?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:25 PM ET
Maybe we could have traded for Calgary's 14th pick. Buffalo got it by swapping their 21st and their 42nd. Calgary would've placed one slot higher in the first (20) but 3 slots lower in the 2nd (45).
- 77rams


Considering how far Calgary's first round choice was off the radar, I'm assuming they were pretty comfortable he would last #21, so getting the higher second round pick was more beneficial. I do believe Homer was trying to move up in the draft, but what's the old saying "it takes two to tango."
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
I think Bob was the "big" trade. We don't have any more trading chips really except 3 letters. Hopefully we can get V to accept his tender and then re-sign Jagr. Maybe add a decent dman and backup. See where the chips fall till the TDL.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
I think Bob was the "big" trade. We don't have any more trading chips really except 3 letters. Hopefully we can get V to accept his tender and then re-sign Jagr. Maybe add a decent dman and backup. See where the chips fall till the TDL.
- Deasr1


Voracek isn't going to accept the Qualifying Offer. But I think he'll get signed no problem.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
Voracek isn't going to accept the Qualifying Offer. But I think he'll get signed no problem.
- MJL

Be nice if they could agree on a deal say 3 years 9 mill. However, they probably want 4 years 16 mill. And won't get that here.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
Be nice if they could agree on a deal say 3 years 9 mill. However, they probably want 4 years 16 mill. And won't get that here.
- Deasr1


I don't know. Probably find a middle ground between those two numbers.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
Who's board did they go that far off of?
- MJL

ISS, for one...
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller

So much for #Flyers making run at Zach Parise. From what I hear, he's headed to Penguins. Apparently Parise & Crosby want to play together.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller

So much for #Flyers making run at Zach Parise. From what I hear, he's headed to Penguins. Apparently Parise & Crosby want to play together.

- aosplayo

he's a penguins fan anyway
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller

So much for #Flyers making run at Zach Parise. From what I hear, he's headed to Penguins. Apparently Parise & Crosby want to play together.

- aosplayo


They want to play with each other.

They also want to be on the same team.


How cute
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Lose Staal, gain Parise. Makes them equal a little defensively.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
They want to play with each other.

They also want to be on the same team.


How cute

- Daman


They even did a music video already too!
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
They even did a music video already too!

- JoeRussomanno



Except Crosby and Paris are sharing one box
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:50 PM ET
Except Crosby and Paris are sharing one box
- Daman

Its not the Richard in a box one, you should watch it gets pretty good by the end!
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:01 PM ET
Its not the Richard in a box one, you should watch it gets pretty good by the end!
- JoeRussomanno



First time this has ever been said, but Lady GG will be played by Mr malkin
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
I'm gunna go ahead and continue to bang the drum regarding a re-signing of Voracek and holding onto JvR. Happy they're both still w/ Philadelphia.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
I honestly can't remember the last time a player actually came out and said in the media "if I get traded I want it to be to XXX team." In any sport...

Not sure how it will shake out but you would think this gives the Flyers a serious edge in acquiring Ryan... no?
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:04 PM ET
Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller

So much for #Flyers making run at Zach Parise. From what I hear, he's headed to Penguins. Apparently Parise & Crosby want to play together.

- aosplayo


Yikes. Bad news.

What exaclty is Parise gonna fetch in a deal though? Are the Penguins really gonna drop 25 mill in 3 players?

Does Parise accept the 10 years $60 mill Staal turned down to play with Crosby? Gotta be more than 6 a year no?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:06 PM ET
I'm gunna go ahead and continue to bang the drum regarding a re-signing of Voracek and holding onto JvR. Happy they're both still w/ Philadelphia.
- Pixote Andolini


Post of the year
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 23 @ 2:06 PM ET
I honestly can't remember the last time a player actually came out and said in the media "if I get traded I want it to be to XXX team." In any sport...

Not sure how it will shake out but you would think this gives the Flyers a serious edge in acquiring Ryan... no?

- Flyers2821

No. The price for him is insanely high. I don't see Holmgren executing that deal.

On another note - I'm pretty content with the Flyers draft selections thus far. Whoever was saying the Flyers have given up on trying to develop defenseman is clearly wrong.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
No. The price for him is insanely high. I don't see Holmgren executing that deal.

On another note - I'm pretty content with the Flyers draft selections thus far. Whoever was saying the Flyers have given up on trying to develop defenseman is clearly wrong.

- Pixote Andolini



Obviously the Ducks are playing hardball right now because they can right now with FA not open yet. Once free agency opens and more players are available, that price will drop. Especially if Ryan is forcing a trade out of town and wants to go to the Flyers.

I could see JvR and a pick/prospect getting it done. No one is gonna give up JvR and Schenn/Couturier type of package for Ryan, that demand will drop.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
First time this has ever been said, but Lady GG will be played by Mr malkin
- Daman

Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
Obviously the Ducks are playing hardball right now because they can right now with FA not open yet. Once free agency opens and more players are available, that price will drop. Especially if Ryan is forcing a trade out of town and wants to go to the Flyers.

I could see JvR and a pick/prospect getting it done. No one is gonna give up JvR and Schenn/Couturier type of package for Ryan, that demand will drop.

- Flyers2821


True, but aside from his Cherry Hill roots I don't see a need for him at all on this Flyers club. Sure he has 4 seasons of 30+ goals but goal scoring is hardly an issue for Philadelphia. Holmgren made those big splash moves last summer - now let's see what happens staying the course - especially after last season where the rookies as a whole performed beautifully and beyond what most had thought they would.

Simmonds could pot 30 this season. Hartnell could realistically again. Briere, when healthy for the entire year is usually a shoe-in for at least 30. JvR with a full campaign could potentially pot 30 as well as G.

That's 5 realistic possible 30 goal scorers.
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