I honestly can't remember the last time a player actually came out and said in the media "if I get traded I want it to be to XXX team." In any sport...

Not sure how it will shake out but you would think this gives the Flyers a serious edge in acquiring Ryan... no?
- Flyers2821

it only helps the flyers if Ryan becomes a malcontent and/or sits out. If he is playing, and producing, then anaheim can sit on him and keep their demands where they are.

Does he have a NTC? If he doesn't than it doesn't matter where he wants to go, he's at the mercy of the front office.

Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller

So much for #Flyers making run at Zach Parise. From what I hear, he's headed to Penguins. Apparently Parise & Crosby want to play together.
- aosplayo

Bob disagrees...

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie I assumed when PIT made big moves to clear cap space, it was for a run at UFA Parise but it seems UFA Suter is more likely primary target.

True, but aside from his Cherry Hill roots I don't see a need for him at all on this Flyers club. Sure he has 4 seasons of 30+ goals but goal scoring is hardly an issue for Philadelphia. Holmgren made those big splash moves last summer - now let's see what happens staying the course - especially after last season where the rookies as a whole performed beautifully and beyond what most had thought they would.

Simmonds could pot 30 this season. Hartnell could realistically again. Briere, when healthy for the entire year is usually a shoe-in for at least 30. JvR with a full campaign could potentially pot 30 as well as G.

That's 5 realistic possible 30 goal scorers.
- Pixote Andolini

POSSIBLE 30 goal scorers. It is a guarantee you are getting 30+ from Bobby Ryan. And playing with Giroux, prolly much more. 25 years old. About to hit his prime. Offense may not be a need but the consistency of Bobby Ryan is something that will help any team, no matter how many offensive players they have that "could" score 30 goals. Bobby Ryan is pure proven consistency when it comes to goal scoring.

Bobby Ryan and Claude Giroux would be unstoppable.

Sure, the Flyers need defense and they have a bunch of young players that COULD turn into great players. Bobby Ryan is 25 years old and a proven consisten goal scorer. I make that trade any day of the week.

And when I say I make that trade, I trade anyone but Giroux, Schenn, Couturier to get him.

POSSIBLE 30 goal scorers. It is a guarantee you are getting 30+ from Bobby Ryan. And playing with Giroux, prolly much more. 25 years old. About to hit his prime. Offense may not be a need but the consistency of Bobby Ryan is something that will help any team, no matter how many offensive players they have that "could" score 30 goals. Bobby Ryan is pure proven consistency when it comes to goal scoring.

Bobby Ryan and Claude Giroux would be unstoppable.

Sure, the Flyers need defense and they have a bunch of young players that COULD turn into great players. Bobby Ryan is 25 years old and a proven consisten goal scorer. I make that trade any day of the week.

And when I say I make that trade, I trade anyone but Giroux, Schenn, Couturier to get him.
- Flyers2821

JVR and a pick (not a first) for Ryan is the extent I go. If not I wait till he is a free agent then attempt to sign him.
If Czechy won't sign a multiple year deal I look to trade him instead. I would hate to see him go though.
I wouldn't trade Schenn, or Couturier in a Nash or Ryan deal.

JVR and a pick (not a first) for Ryan is the extent I go. If not I wait till he is a free agent then attempt to sign him.
If Czechy won't sign a multiple year deal I look to trade him instead. I would hate to see him go though.
I wouldn't trade Schenn, or Couturier in a Nash or Ryan deal.
- bird_dog

He wont be a free agent for 3 more off seasons. I would give up JvR and a first. Giroux and Ryan together for the next 3 years minimum (in both their primes) is too good to pass up over 1 round in the draft. I would definitely do it. No doubt about it.

Not to mention, with him being a local kid the Flyers would have a major edge in re-signing him after those three seasons and then you are looking at Giroux and Ryan together for their entire prime in the NHL.

I want nothing to do with Nash due to his cap hit.

J
I wouldn't trade Schenn, or Couturier in a Nash or Ryan deal.
- bird_dog

I am more than sure these two names were involved in both trades, which is why homer didn't make any trades. And I'm happy with that if its true.

I am more than sure these two names were involved in both trades, which is why homer didn't make any trades. And I'm happy with that if its true.
- the deaninator

JvR is a big enough chip to get Bobby Ryan without including Schenn/Couturier. Anaheim is asking for the moon right now to try and get someone to bite while no one has signed anyone. The interest right now is much higher. Once Nash gets traded and Parise, Semin, Doan, Parenteau get signed... that asking price is gonna drop as less teams will be in it for Ryan.

For Bobby Ryan to come out in the media and make the comments he did... there is no doubt he is getting traded. Just a matter of when.

Schenn/Couturier aren't going anywhere. JvR and a 1st will get it done and it will happen within the next few weeks.

ISS, for one...
- isaiah520

How about the Flyers board? The only one that really matters.

His head is Datsyukian. Could have a bright future if he adds a little more muscle up top.
- feelingkettle

hey, anything datsyukian must be a good thing

JvR is a big enough chip to get Bobby Ryan without including Schenn/Couturier. Anaheim is asking for the moon right now to try and get someone to bite while no one has signed anyone. The interest right now is much higher. Once Nash gets traded and Parise, Semin, Doan, Parenteau get signed... that asking price is gonna drop as less teams will be in it for Ryan.

For Bobby Ryan to come out in the media and make the comments he did... there is no doubt he is getting traded. Just a matter of when.

Schenn/Couturier aren't going anywhere. JvR and a 1st will get it done and it will happen within the next few weeks.
- Flyers2821

Homer's not dumb. Its obvious he's aware that defense needs to be addressed, and that nash/ryan deals are luxurious but don't help the team. I hope he slow plays the deal, and makes Anaheim flinch first.

JvR is a big enough chip to get Bobby Ryan without including Schenn/Couturier. Anaheim is asking for the moon right now to try and get someone to bite while no one has signed anyone. The interest right now is much higher. Once Nash gets traded and Parise, Semin, Doan, Parenteau get signed... that asking price is gonna drop as less teams will be in it for Ryan.

For Bobby Ryan to come out in the media and make the comments he did... there is no doubt he is getting traded. Just a matter of when.

Schenn/Couturier aren't going anywhere. JvR and a 1st will get it done and it will happen within the next few weeks.
- Flyers2821

I wouldn't give Ana a first rounder. I would rather see what JVR can do this year playing with G.

True, but aside from his Cherry Hill roots I don't see a need for him at all on this Flyers club. Sure he has 4 seasons of 30+ goals but goal scoring is hardly an issue for Philadelphia. Holmgren made those big splash moves last summer - now let's see what happens staying the course - especially after last season where the rookies as a whole performed beautifully and beyond what most had thought they would.

Simmonds could pot 30 this season. Hartnell could realistically again. Briere, when healthy for the entire year is usually a shoe-in for at least 30. JvR with a full campaign could potentially pot 30 as well as G.

That's 5 realistic possible 30 goal scorers.
- Pixote Andolini

Great post. This is the way I see it.. Why would Homer concentrate on adding O when what we really need is D. Now if Ryan can be had cheap..great, but I don't see it. Stay the course up front.. if you can add Jagr back great.. I'd say that when we trade depth up front to get the D.. we'll still be fine.

Homer's not dumb. Its obvious he's aware that defense needs to be addressed, and that nash/ryan deals are luxurious but don't help the team. I hope he slow plays the deal, and makes Anaheim flinch first.
- the deaninator

he's gonna sign schultz too

Homer's not dumb. Its obvious he's aware that defense needs to be addressed, and that nash/ryan deals are luxurious but don't help the team. I hope he slow plays the deal, and makes Anaheim flinch first.
- the deaninator

Swapping JvR for Ryan does not restrict them from going out and improving the defense. They would only be taking on $850k in salary.

Trading for Nash would be stupid for the exact reason you stated, it restricts them from doing anything else with that ridiculous cap hit.

Who did the flyers get in the 7th round?

I wouldn't give Ana a first rounder. I would rather see what JVR can do this year playing with G.
- bird_dog

You would rather see what JvR might do than KNOW what Ryan will do?

My thing with Ryan is, your getting a guy who has proven for 4 years now that you are going to get 30+ from him a season. You pair him with G and you are looking at a ridiculously CONSISTENT tandem for the next 3 years minimum and still have young players in Schenn, Couturier to watch develop in our offense. To me, a first round pick to upgrade from JvR to Bobby Ryan is well worth it for many reasons.

But I guess if you are just willing to wait around for JvR, that is just a personal preference/mindset that differs from mine.

Great post. This is the way I see it.. Why would Homer concentrate on adding O when what we really need is D. Now if Ryan can be had cheap..great, but I don't see it. Stay the course up front.. if you can add Jagr back great.. I'd say that when we trade depth up front to get the D.. we'll still be fine.
- Hextall271

Adding Bobby Ryan does not restrict you from improving the defense.

Who did the flyers get in the 7th round?
- bird_dog

Valeri Vasiliev (D- KHL) who according to Craig Button plays a very physical style game

Valeri Vasiliev (D- KHL) who according to Craig Button plays a very physical style game
- ob18

Does our first round pick do anything other than fight? I tried to look up his videos and it's just tons and tons of fights!

I don't follow the lower levels as much as I should so i really know nothing about him. Know he is yet again another Mike Richards type player though

Does our first round pick do anything other than fight? I tried to look up his videos and it's just tons and tons of fights!

I don't follow the lower levels as much as I should so i really know nothing about him. Know he is yet again another Mike Richards type player though
- Flyers2821

Many prospects fight at that level........Read Bill's blog today it's a good review of him.

I saw him when I saw Oshawa at Ottawa in January but admit at that time didn't focus too much on watching him play.

As seen below, trading Ryan for JvR + picks/prospects leaves the Flyers with PLENTY of room to improve their team.


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Scott Hartnell ($4.200m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
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(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,318,373; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (19-man roster): $9,981,627

According to eklund, dan boyle is rumored to us or pitt. Dan boyle is the only undersized and none physical defenseman I am ok with grabbing."

According to eklund, dan boyle is rumored to us or pitt. Ran boyle is the only undersized and none physical defenseman I am ok with grabbing.
- Schenn2shine

No thanks. 35 year old d-man making 6.66 mill per year? I'll pass.

Pilfered this from Eklund's main rumor post:

Jeff_121
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Location: Wyckoff, NJ
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I don't understand why Nash would be mad with Howson, I mean I understand he wants to be traded and he will, I mean there are alot of teams that have hopes of making offers to Parise but once he re-signs in NJ those teams that were hoping to make offers may jump in on Nash and the offers will only get bigger as more players like Ryan get snagged and Free Agents are signed. He will probably be moved during the first week of free agency when the offers are at the highest. That being said Parise will be locked up early this week. Last night Eklund you also said you heard Nash to NJ? After we lock up Zach, if the Devils wanted to package some players around Clarkson and Zubrus for Nash with Parise and Kovalchuk and Nash on the Devils we would be on a fast track back to the finals, but it would be cheaper and wiser to go after Bobby Ryan he is a RW.

You would rather see what JvR might do than KNOW what Ryan will do?

My thing with Ryan is, your getting a guy who has proven for 4 years now that you are going to get 30+ from him a season. You pair him with G and you are looking at a ridiculously CONSISTENT tandem for the next 3 years minimum and still have young players in Schenn, Couturier to watch develop in our offense. To me, a first round pick to upgrade from JvR to Bobby Ryan is well worth it for many reasons.

But I guess if you are just willing to wait around for JvR, that is just a personal preference/mindset that differs from mine.
- Flyers2821

I wouldn't add a 1st in because the flyers don't have much in the pipeline not already on the team so a 1st rounder where they actually have a decent track record is to much. JVR may or may not become a 30 goal guy. I for one think he can as long as he stays healthy.
If I was going to trade JVR and a 1st I go for a dman.