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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
Yea I am pretty sure Marc is as good as gone now when his contract is up in 3 years. He will be off to Carolina
- TPC

Name change for that team, the Carolina Staals


Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
Well all the JvR for Ryan trade talk was for nothing!

Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
If that's true. They had better have another way to get a puck moving defenseman in here.
- MJL


Mez can't move the puck? I feel like he has more offensive upside than he's given credit for
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
Well all the JvR for Ryan trade talk was for nothing!
- Flyers2821

99% of trade talk is a lot bout nothing
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
says the Flyers have 11 mil in capspace, if I'm reading that right on capgeek.
- JoeRussomanno


That is not that much when you really think about it
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
If they re-sign Carle that will be one expensive 3rd pair.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
Love this move. Does not take them out of the running for anything in free agency.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
If that's true. They had better have another way to get a puck moving defenseman in here.
- MJL


agreed. having reduced offense from the blue line hurt them this year (imo). letting carle walk isn't gonna make that any better unless something else is coming
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:22 PM ET
If they re-sign Carle that will be one expensive 3rd pair.
- ob18


Just cause Holmgren said he wants to re-sign Carle does not mean he is going to after this move. I would rather have Meszaros than Carle.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 23 @ 5:22 PM ET
Name change for that team, the Carolina Staals



- JoeRussomanno

haha
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 23 @ 5:22 PM ET
Can someone explain how this deal makes 1 iota of sense? Flyers trade a top 6, powerforward with 30-goal potential for a defenseman who was scratched at times on a bad Leafs team? I know I'm posing 1 player in a good light and the other player in a bad light, but the fact remains that Schenn couldn't crack one of 6 spots at times on a bad Leafs team...
- steelydan

Schenn was scratched a bit this year because of poor foot speed, which was really killing him in Wilson's run-and-gun system. His skating was t as bad before, but took a hit after he spent all summer long building his upper body, and not focusing on skating. In the end, despite reduced minutes, worse foot-speed, and scratches, he still managed to be the most physical dman in the league, and saw his point totals increase again.


And is JVR really a powerforward?
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:23 PM ET
If they re-sign Carle that will be one expensive 3rd pair.
- ob18


who kimmo-schenn or grossman-coburn?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
Schenn was scratched a bit this year because of poor foot speed, which was really killing him in Wilson's run-and-gun system. His skating was t as bad before, but took a hit after he spent all summer long building his upper body, and not focusing on skating. In the end, despite reduced minutes, worse foot-speed, and scratches, he still managed to be the most physical dman in the league, and saw his point totals increase again.


And is JVR really a powerforward?

- Feeling Glucky?

you considered schenn the most physical dman in the league?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
I'm not impressed with this trade.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
That is not that much when you really think about it
- Phifly10

It probably means no bourdon coming back, no jagr if they can get Parise,
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
Schenn was scratched a bit this year because of poor foot speed, which was really killing him in Wilson's run-and-gun system. His skating was t as bad before, but took a hit after he spent all summer long building his upper body, and not focusing on skating. In the end, despite reduced minutes, worse foot-speed, and scratches, he still managed to be the most physical dman in the league, and saw his point totals increase again.


And is JVR really a powerforward?

- Feeling Glucky?


he has that potential, but he hasn't shown to me that he's a true power forward just yet.

what does schenn2shine think of the trade?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
how does schenn replace carle?
- JoeRussomanno


Mez is signed Carle isn't
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:26 PM ET
who kimmo-schenn or grossman-coburn?
- FlyerMike18


I think your forgetting about that 5+ mill d man that is andrej mezjaros
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:26 PM ET
Mez is signed Carle isn't
- Dkos

u still need a puck mover type, don't even know what we are getting out of kimo this year.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
Mez is signed Carle isn't
- Dkos

Schenn replaces Carle because Meszaros is signed?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
I think your forgetting about that 5+ mill d man that is andrej mezjaros
- Phifly10


$5+mil?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
I think your forgetting about that 5+ mill d man that is andrej mezjaros
- Phifly10

correction 4 mill flat. per capgeek.
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:28 PM ET
correction 4 mill flat. per capgeek.
- JoeRussomanno


My bad, but I would think that still classifies as an expensive third pairing d man
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:28 PM ET
when you consider they can go over the cap by a bit over the summer and then the amount of space freed up from Pronger and Kimo's LTIR I think yea they are gonna go full blast after a FA, either Parise or...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
My bad, but I would think that still classifies as an expensive third pairing d man
- Phifly10

what's the going rate of cup caliber third pairings?
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