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Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
More should have come back from their end. Mezz maybe packaged now if carle is re-signed
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
This move puts the flyers in a position to be a player in absolutely everything this offseason....

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) /
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,818,373; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (19-man roster): $11,481,627
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
Mez can't move the puck? I feel like he has more offensive upside than he's given credit for
- Dkos


I think he does also. But I don't think he has the upside to match Carle in that area.
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
when you consider they can go over the cap by a bit over the summer and then the amount of space freed up from Pronger and Kimo's LTIR I think yea they are gonna go full blast after a FA, either Parise or...
- JoeRussomanno


If your thinking Weber, I would think the Schenn trade eliminates that no?
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
I think your forgetting about that 5+ mill d man that is andrej mezjaros
- Phifly10


i think you missed the point
flyers420
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
David Strehle ‏@David_Strehle

Schenn joins his brother in PHI & gives #Flyers 1st significant RH-shooting D man since Eric Desjardins retired in 06 (@mtrible)
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probably why we didn't get more in return. Burke held us to the fire!!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:31 PM ET
you considered schenn the most physical dman in the league?
- Crimsoninja

he is credited with 270 hits, not sure if that's the most in the league but he's definitely a top 10 most physical, I'd say.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 23 @ 5:31 PM ET
you considered schenn the most physical dman in the league?
- Crimsoninja

Didnt have the huge open-ice hits, but hit more than any other dman.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:31 PM ET
This move puts the flyers in a position to be a player in absolutely everything this offseason....

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) /
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,818,373; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (19-man roster): $11,481,627

- Flyers2821


Your missing a lot of people there that need to be accounted for in the off season.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:32 PM ET
Your missing a lot of people there that need to be accounted for in the off season.
- MJL


Straight from CapGeek.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:32 PM ET
If your thinking Weber, I would think the Schenn trade eliminates that no?
- Phifly10

hmmm yes and no unless they plan on moving Mezaros. Or not resigning carle.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 23 @ 5:33 PM ET
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:34 PM ET
Didnt have the huge open-ice hits, but hit more than any other dman.
- Feeling Glucky?

nice
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:34 PM ET
I hate this trade. I hope I am wrong, but I think this will come back to haunt us.

Schenn was a healthy scratch on a brutal leafs team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:34 PM ET
he is credited with 270 hits, not sure if that's the most in the league but he's definitely a top 10 most physical, I'd say.
- JoeRussomanno


Most for defenseman. Schenn is the type of D man that Philly loves.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:34 PM ET
I hate this trade. I hope I am wrong, but I think this will come back to haunt us.

Schenn was a healthy scratch on a brutal leafs team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:35 PM ET
Straight from CapGeek.
- Flyers2821


Capgeek does not track the off season Cap. That is a guesstimate for the Season.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:35 PM ET
Bill, help!! Can this be an ok deal for us??? I really think JVR had so much upside. Can Luke be better than folks are giving him credit for???
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:35 PM ET
Capgeek does not track the off season Cap. That is a guesstimate for the Season.
- MJL


Whatever.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:36 PM ET
Bill, help!! Can this be an ok deal for us??? I really think JVR had so much upside. Can Luke be better than folks are giving him credit for???
- FlyersFirst

I'm not bill but I'd say time will tell, for now tho yes and yes to your questions.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:37 PM ET
I hate this trade. I hope I am wrong, but I think this will come back to haunt us.

Schenn was a healthy scratch on a brutal leafs team.

- Briere

could have been JVR for JBo
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:38 PM ET
Just cause Holmgren said he wants to re-sign Carle does not mean he is going to after this move. I would rather have Meszaros than Carle.
- Flyers2821


I included "if" for a reason
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:39 PM ET
could have been JVR for JBo
- JoeRussomanno


Yikes
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 5:39 PM ET
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:39 PM ET
I need time for this to sink in. Not enough for JvR.

My first thought was, Is Homer channeling Bob Clarke?
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