Could be that run and gun system he plays on the island
don't know much about his back check either or other facets of his game to say he's worth it because of his points
2 years ago Grabner looked all that (again. Same system)
- puckhead17

Your looking for a forward who can step in and get around 20 goals and 50-60 points. This is the guy imo. You dont have to break the bank for him like you would to get a Parise. Parenteau doesn't have to be option 1 but he should be an option they should look at.

Flyers play pretty much the same style. They attack offensively.

Your looking for a forward who can step in and get around 20 goals and 50-60 points. This is the guy imo. You dont have to break the bank for him like you would to get a Parise. Parenteau doesn't have to be option 1 but he should be an option they should look at.

Flyers play pretty much the same style. They attack offensively.
- stveshdy

Not trying to trash every idea out there even though it does seem that way haha.

However imo the Flyers were horrid defensively in terms of forward coverage. They also needed more grit up front.

Does Parenteau truly help with that or could money be spent elsewhere.

Two Young players who are struggling with great potential on teams deep at their positions get traded to another big market team that is weak at their position. This seems like one of the most even "Player swaps" I have seen in some time. I think it reflects badly on neither player as the other is basically in the same place and should be well regarded in the league. (ie Toronto fans feel the same way about Schenn that we do about JVR, both will think they got the better deal)

Both of these players are not close to their potential but have shown the ability to reach it. I think they both will in time, but just Toronto needs forwards and we need Defensemen. I believe it is as simple as that.

Now on Bobby Ryan.... why? I can see us trading Mez(maybe) but not Coby. both Bourdon and Gus are possiblities to trade. But we are going to have to give up a major piece and honestly I like our team right now. Sans JVR, our Forwards are fine.

- Don'tForgetTocchet

x2

Maybe but he's got an ntc I think and then we'd still need a 1a dman..maybe then trade for weber and sign suter... Then were talkin..lol hope the cap moves up to 100 mil
- Hextall271

Frankly, if we resign Carle, I would rate Timonen as possibly the worst defenseman on this team. And I love the guy, but he looks done. I think he'd easily wave to go to a warm weathered team full of Fins.

Not trying to trash every idea out there even though it does seem that way haha.

However imo the Flyers were horrid defensively in terms of forward coverage. They also needed more grit up front.

Does Parenteau truly help with that or could money be spent elsewhere.
- flyer_nutter

Give me another player that your talking about? Who are we adding? I'm not against that.

Parenteau for the last two seasons was a minus 8 and minus 8 but the Islanders are terrible.

Having a hard time convincing myself that the Wild will end up with any of the big free agents. I know they said they wouldn't be out-bid for Parise.

But if you're Parise, and your choices are to play with Sid & Geno in Pit, or Hartnell (or Jagr?) & Giroux in Philly, or Pavel & Hank in Detroit, are you really going to strongly consider playing with Mikko Koivu and Danny Heatley as a valid alternative, even if the money offered matches up? I don't see it.

Even if it is his hometown team, I think guys like Parise want to win too much to sign for a team that has no shot at winning the Cup for at least a few more years (they do have some good prospects in the pipeline, but their NHL roster is awful thin).

Not trying to trash every idea out there even though it does seem that way haha.

However imo the Flyers were horrid defensively in terms of forward coverage. They also needed more grit up front.

Does Parenteau truly help with that or could money be spent elsewhere.
- flyer_nutter

Say Parise is not coming which is very likely.
I see him in staying NJ or gd forbid Pittsburgh or maybe home town Minny.

Then if it comes down to Jagr for a year or someone like PA Parenteau who do you prefer?

Give me another player that your talking about? Who are we adding? I'm not against that.

Parenteau for the last two seasons was a minus 8 and minus 8 but the Islanders are terrible.
- stveshdy

Doan but not at 4 years

Give me another player that your talking about? Who are we adding? I'm not against that.

Parenteau for the last two seasons was a minus 8 and minus 8 but the Islanders are terrible.
- stveshdy

they only had two plus players on the team who played more than 15 games.

moulson and hamonic

Not trying to trash every idea out there even though it does seem that way haha.

However imo the Flyers were horrid defensively in terms of forward coverage. They also needed more grit up front.

Does Parenteau truly help with that or could money be spent elsewhere.
- flyer_nutter

True!

Again I would rather have a 2nd line center who scores 40-45 points yet is very responsible 2 way player and maybe play both the PP & PK

Instead of a Briere type. Who yes, he's a playoff beast. But badly exposed in his own end, that's not winning hockey

Say Parise is not coming which is very likely.
I see him in staying NJ or gd forbid Pittsburgh or maybe home town Minny.

Then if it comes down to Jagr for a year or someone like PA Parenteau who do you prefer?
- Marc D

PA

Having a hard time convincing myself that the Wild will end up with any of the big free agents. I know they said they wouldn't be out-bid for Parise.

But if you're Parise, and your choices are to play with Sid & Geno in Pit, or Hartnell (or Jagr?) & Giroux in Philly, or Pavel & Hank in Detroit, are you really going to strongly consider playing with Mikko Koivu and Danny Heatley as a valid alternative, even if the money offered matches up? I don't see it.

Even if it is his hometown team, I think guys like Parise want to win too much to sign for a team that has no shot at winning the Cup for at least a few more years (they do have some good prospects in the pipeline, but their NHL roster is awful thin).
- BringBack25

Possibly hed be looking at Ryan/Giroux in philly. just saying possibly

Give me another player that your talking about? Who are we adding? I'm not against that.

Parenteau for the last two seasons was a minus 8 and minus 8 but the Islanders are terrible.
- stveshdy

I'd very much like to see a Gaustad, Moen or Burish.

they only had two plus players on the team who played more than 15 games.

moulson and hamonic
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Thank you. I did not know that. Parenteau is a realistic option imo.

Doan but not at 4 years
- aosplayo

Doan wants a 4 yr deal?
Isn't he 35 yo?
Crazy talk.

PA
- Don'tForgetTocchet

It would seem like a natural fit for a guy named PA to actually play in PA.

I don't get the talk of adding Coburn in for Bobby Ryan. Ryan is a great player and has had multiple 30+ goal seasons, but I don't think I would do Coburn for Ryan straight up.

Ok Coburn, in perspective of the whole league, is not one of the top 10 defensemen, but on the Flyers he is no lower than #2. IMO he is the #1 for the Flyers. On the right team, system and circumstance a boat load of players can have 30+ goals. Sure Ryan does more than just score goals, but he is not an accomplished elite forward, yet, to give up as much as Coburn means to the Flyers.

Most people agree the Penguins got a decent return on Staal, but in reality all assets they got were "potential" for a guy who has more value than Ryan being a big all-around player down the middle.

Anaheim will want the moon, the Flyers want to give some twinkling stars, but the Flyers are in the position where they don't need just another 30+ guy.
- Glak18

Frankly the Staal trade should be guideline on what Anaheim should get. Staal is a 25 goal scorer who is a top 5 defensive player in the league. The offensive prowess he lacks compared to Ryan is more than made up for in defense. That said both players did not have long term futures with the club and thus their returns should be pretty similar. A deal of Voracek, Ford, and 1st or Meszaros, Ford, and a 1st should get it done. (Really don't want to trade D and Voracek can be replaced in free agency).

I'd very much like to see a Gaustad, Moen or Burish.
- flyer_nutter

I like Gaustad but I think someone will give him 4. Philly is already a pain in the butt to play, add Gaustad, good lord

Possibly hed be looking at Ryan/Giroux in philly. just saying possibly
- aosplayo

What if no one wanted to go to the kings last year for those same reasons?

Doan wants a 4 yr deal?
Isn't he 35 yo?
Crazy talk.
- Marc D

Yea thats what bill tweeted

Frankly the Staal trade should be guideline on what Anaheim should get. Staal is a 25 goal scorer who is a top 5 defensive player in the league. The offensive prowess he lacks compared to Ryan is more than made up for in defense. That said both players did not have long term futures with their respective clubs and thus their returns should be pretty similar. A deal of Voracek, Ford, and 1st or Meszaros, Ford, and a 1st should get it done. (Really don't want to trade D and Voracek can be replaced in free agency).

Two Young players who are struggling with great potential on teams deep at their positions get traded to another big market team that is weak at their position. This seems like one of the most even "Player swaps" I have seen in some time. I think it reflects badly on neither player as the other is basically in the same place and should be well regarded in the league. (ie Toronto fans feel the same way about Schenn that we do about JVR, both will think they got the better deal)

Both of these players are not close to their potential but have shown the ability to reach it. I think they both will in time, but just Toronto needs forwards and we need Defensemen. I believe it is as simple as that.

Now on Bobby Ryan.... why? I can see us trading Mez(maybe) but not Coby. both Bourdon and Gus are possiblities to trade. But we are going to have to give up a major piece and honestly I like our team right now. Sans JVR, our Forwards are fine.
- flyler

I don't think we're fine up front. I think we're average. Jagr's presence alone was a huge boost for this team and now he's in danger of not returning. Briere goes from an up season to a down season. Hartnell may not give the same production that he just did. JvR spends one season on the shelf and because we managed to roll on without him, suddenly he's expendable. For me it's more then the product on this ice but away from it as well. Voracek is going to want more money based on one season but I don't feel he's worth much more then what he's already making. We're going to have to ask a lot of young players to step it up but it has been a roller coaster season for a number of players. It took the second half of the season for Brayden Schenn to get it going and this is when JvR was healthy. Things happen during a long regular season. We might as well bulk up if we can.

I'd very much like to see a Gaustad, Moen or Burish.
- flyer_nutter

habbers on hb are saying moen just signed for 2 more years

It would seem like a natural fit for a guy named PA to actually play in PA.
- BringBack25

BOOM