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mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 12:32 PM ET
Thing is we need another goal scorer and the only one there is Semin and I dont think Semin is a good fit for this team.

The problem with trading Dubi is that his value nose dived this year, so youre not gonna get anything significant with him as the main piece. Better off just signing Whitney, youll probably get more out of him, without losing all the prospects and picks.

- NYRPowerPlay


He's what? 42? That scares me. And again, I said Dubi+ for a player whose name we have not heard. I am sure someone can be made available.
NYRPowerPlay
New York Rangers
Location: Rick Nash to NYR? Ill take it, NY
Joined: 02.11.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
He's what? 42? That scares me. And again, I said Dubi+ for a player whose name we have not heard. I am sure someone can be made available.
- mrhattrick27


Scares you how? All he does is put up 50-60 pts every year.

Dubi + means youll be overpaying for a maybe player.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:53 PM ET
blog about Schultz:

http://blogs.edmontonjour...ers-insider-bob-stauffer/
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
blog about Schultz:

http://blogs.edmontonjour...ers-insider-bob-stauffer/

- jimbro83

Get Stepan and Mcdonagh up to Kelowna to do some hot and heavy recruiting.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:02 PM ET
Scares you how? All he does is put up 50-60 pts every year.

Dubi + means youll be overpaying for a maybe player.

- NYRPowerPlay


How you figure that?
NYRPowerPlay
New York Rangers
Location: Rick Nash to NYR? Ill take it, NY
Joined: 02.11.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:02 PM ET
Get Stepan and Mcdonagh up to Kelowna to do some hot and heavy recruiting.
- tomburton99


I gotta bring Sathers call girls with them.
NYRPowerPlay
New York Rangers
Location: Rick Nash to NYR? Ill take it, NY
Joined: 02.11.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
How you figure that?
- mrhattrick27


Because youre overvaluing Dubi and what teams would give up for him.
Henrik's Crease
New York Rangers
Location: Trusting Sather with cap space, NY
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
Guys, this team was just 2 games away from a SCF appearence. No need for an overhaul here. Sign a cheap forward who can put up numbers (Mueller, Whitney, Hudler) sign Schultz and find a replacement for Prust such as Konopka.I'd be more than happy to start the season with this lineup.

Mueller/Hudler Richards Gaborik
Kreider Stepan Callahan
Hagelin Anisimov Dubinsky
Boyle Konopka Rupp/Feds rotate in and out.

McDonagh Girardi
Staal Schultz
Del Zotto Stralman
Bickel

Hank
Biron

That is an improved lineup and most likely scenario. No need to drastically change the look of a team that is so young, talented, and close together.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
Scares you how? All he does is put up 50-60 pts every year.

Dubi + means youll be overpaying for a maybe player.

- NYRPowerPlay


Ok, well if we pay and expect 50 fine, but he is going to want to get paid for that 77 pts. And by paid I mean wanting 2 years and there will be a desperate team that gives it to him. I think the perfect match is Yotes keep him at 2 years for $5 mil. They both would jump at that chance. And I believe this will indeed happen.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
Guys, this team was just 2 games away from a SCF appearence. No need for an overhaul here. Sign a cheap forward who can put up numbers (Mueller, Whitney, Hudler) sign Schultz and find a replacement for Prust such as Konopka.I'd be more than happy to start the season with this lineup.

Mueller/Hudler Richards Gaborik
Kreider Stepan Callahan
Hagelin Anisimov Dubinsky
Boyle Konopka Rupp/Feds rotate in and out.

McDonagh Girardi
Staal Schultz
Del Zotto Stralman
Bickel

Hank
Biron

That is an improved lineup and most likely scenario. No need to drastically change the look of a team that is so young, talented, and close together.

- Henrik's Crease

would prefer whitney. Guy is magic on the powerplay. Mueller, good skill but made out of paper mache. Hudler, imo meh.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
Get Stepan and Mcdonagh up to Kelowna to do some hot and heavy recruiting.
- tomburton99


it would be unbelievable to get a player as highly regarded as Schultz is without having to give up anything. Whatever they have to do to get it done yo
NYRPowerPlay
New York Rangers
Location: Rick Nash to NYR? Ill take it, NY
Joined: 02.11.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
Guys, this team was just 2 games away from a SCF appearence. No need for an overhaul here. Sign a cheap forward who can put up numbers (Mueller, Whitney, Hudler) sign Schultz and find a replacement for Prust such as Konopka.I'd be more than happy to start the season with this lineup.

Mueller/Hudler Richards Gaborik
Kreider Stepan Callahan
Hagelin Anisimov Dubinsky
Boyle Konopka Rupp/Feds rotate in and out.

McDonagh Girardi
Staal Schultz
Del Zotto Stralman
Bickel

Hank
Biron

That is an improved lineup and most likely scenario. No need to drastically change the look of a team that is so young, talented, and close together.

- Henrik's Crease


Dubi wont be here.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
Dubi wont be here.
- NYRPowerPlay

unless his value is lower than even we make it out to be.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
it would be unbelievable to get a player as highly regarded as Schultz is without having to give up anything. Whatever they have to do to get it done yo
- jimbro83


Its more how Schultz views himself compared to McDonagh. All he has to do is see what the Rangers did with a Wisconsin Defensemen in just a year and a half and that he can do the same. He is going to look to maximize his potential.

To me its EDM (Loads of ice time Opportunity being "the guy", plus such a great up and coming team to which he can be part of the solution) or Us (Friends on the team, can maximize his potential and therefore eventual pay, contending team).

We shall see. It is interesting because I always think about this come July 1: Do GMs miss out on players because they are busy on the phone with other agents while another player is being signed elsewhere before a GM can talk to his agent?

With that said at 12:01 if I'm Sather I call Schultz, not Parise, Suter, no one else. I send Mess and who ever else to kick the tires of other players. I am making Schultz Priority 1.

^Although can't teams talk to him today but he can officially sign till July 1?? If so that changes things obv. Then every GM is calling him because hes the only FA they can talk to.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
Dubi wont be here.
- NYRPowerPlay


Dubi will be here if hes not in a package for a scorer. If they cant package him I think they'd rather see if he can bounce back rather than dump him for a pick or something.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Its more how Schultz views himself compared to McDonagh. All he has to do is see what the Rangers did with a Wisconsin Defensemen in just a year and a half and that he can do the same. He is going to look to maximize his potential.

To me its EDM (Loads of ice time Opportunity being "the guy", plus such a great up and coming team to which he can be part of the solution) or Us (Friends on the team, can maximize his potential and therefore eventual pay, contending team).

We shall see. It is interesting because I always think about this come July 1: Do GMs miss out on players because they are busy on the phone with other agents while another player is being signed elsewhere before a GM can talk to his agent?

With that said at 12:01 if I'm Sather I call Schultz, not Parise, Suter, no one else. I send Mess and who ever else to kick the tires of other players. I am making Schultz Priority 1.

^Although can't teams talk to him today but he can officially sign till July 1?? If so that changes things obv. Then every GM is calling him because hes the only FA they can talk to.

- mrhattrick27

jimbo's link says that vancouver is in the driver seat because of they are his hometown team. Leafs in 2nd, Rangers in 3rd and the Oilers at the bottom. I want schutlz on this team. Gives the rangers the right handed shot they need with out have to pay big money for it.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
Its more how Schultz views himself compared to McDonagh. All he has to do is see what the Rangers did with a Wisconsin Defensemen in just a year and a half and that he can do the same. He is going to look to maximize his potential.

To me its EDM (Loads of ice time Opportunity being "the guy", plus such a great up and coming team to which he can be part of the solution) or Us (Friends on the team, can maximize his potential and therefore eventual pay, contending team).

We shall see. It is interesting because I always think about this come July 1: Do GMs miss out on players because they are busy on the phone with other agents while another player is being signed elsewhere before a GM can talk to his agent?

With that said at 12:01 if I'm Sather I call Schultz, not Parise, Suter, no one else. I send Mess and who ever else to kick the tires of other players. I am making Schultz Priority 1.

^Although can't teams talk to him today but he can officially sign till July 1?? If so that changes things obv. Then every GM is calling him because hes the only FA they can talk to.

- mrhattrick27


Teams can talk to him today, but he can't officially sign somewhere until July 1st.

To me, sales pitch has to be:

not only Stepan and McDonagh, but we are becoming a haven for college trained NHLers to thrive.

Very little travel as opposed to Vancouver who have the most in the league

We don't have -50 degree months like Edmonton has in January.

We don't have the Toronto hockey media pressure cooker.

We are NYC, it's the place to be
NYRPowerPlay
New York Rangers
Location: Rick Nash to NYR? Ill take it, NY
Joined: 02.11.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
Dubi will be here if hes not in a package for a scorer. If they cant package him I think they'd rather see if he can bounce back rather than dump him for a pick or something.
- mrhattrick27


I like Glens idea about Ott and Robidas for Dubi +

Ott replaces Prust, Robidas gives us a RH shot and hes good defensively.

If thats the only move we make, I think I can live with it. Especially since Miller looks like hes built like a tank and might make the team.

Kreider, Richards, Callahan
Miller, Stepan, Anisimov
Hagelin, Ott, Boyle
Rupp, Konopka, Moen

McDonagh, Girardi
MDZ, Staal
Erixon, Robidas
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
I like Glens idea about Ott and Robidas for Dubi +

Ott replaces Prust, Robidas gives us a RH shot and hes good defensively.

If thats the only move we make, I think I can live with it. Especially since Miller looks like hes built like a tank and might make the team.

Kreider, Richards, Callahan
Miller, Stepan, Anisimov
Hagelin, Ott, Boyle
Rupp, Konopka, Moen

McDonagh, Girardi
MDZ, Staal
Erixon, Robidas

- NYRPowerPlay

so we miss out on schultz?
NYRPowerPlay
New York Rangers
Location: Rick Nash to NYR? Ill take it, NY
Joined: 02.11.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:35 PM ET
so we miss out on schultz?
- tomburton99


Not necessarily, hes 18, I dont know if he makes the team straight out of camp. Robidas would be a spot filler and rental until Schultz is ready.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
Guys, this team was just 2 games away from a SCF appearence. No need for an overhaul here. Sign a cheap forward who can put up numbers (Mueller, Whitney, Hudler) sign Schultz and find a replacement for Prust such as Konopka.I'd be more than happy to start the season with this lineup.

Mueller/Hudler Richards Gaborik
Kreider Stepan Callahan
Hagelin Anisimov Dubinsky
Boyle Konopka Rupp/Feds rotate in and out.

McDonagh Girardi
Staal Schultz
Del Zotto Stralman
Bickel

Hank
Biron

That is an improved lineup and most likely scenario. No need to drastically change the look of a team that is so young, talented, and close together.

- Henrik's Crease

I see Hudler being the Ville Leino of this free agent market. Someone will give him a long term deal for big bucks hoping he can produce consistently and that team has a good chance of looking foolish for doing it. I hope that won't be us.

Mueller is a buy low guy but if you sign him and expect or need him to be top-six then you are screwed. If you bring him in and he does great but you just can't count on him.

I've been big on Whitney but realistically I think he will go to Carolina should he not re-sign in Phoenix. Phoenix is option one and the Canes need another winger so they would likely love to bring him back again to Raleigh if the Yotes don't get it done.

Bottom line is Slats better have something up his sleeve or we shouldn't expect any significant addition to the forward groups.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
Not necessarily, hes 18, I dont know if he makes the team straight out of camp. Robidas would be a spot filler and rental until Schultz is ready.
- NYRPowerPlay


Justin Schultz will be 22 in two weeks
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
Not necessarily, hes 18, I dont know if he makes the team straight out of camp. Robidas would be a spot filler and rental until Schultz is ready.
- NYRPowerPlay

Schultz is 21 or 22. He played three years at Wisconsin I believe. Many evaluators think he could step in right away assuming the club expects some natural ups and downs in his play.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:44 PM ET
Not necessarily, hes 18, I dont know if he makes the team straight out of camp. Robidas would be a spot filler and rental until Schultz is ready.
- NYRPowerPlay

he 20 almost 21.

edit: Jimbo and glen beat me to it.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
he 20 almost 21.

edit: Jimbo and glen beat me to it.

- tomburton99

And Jimbo beat me. *shakes fist angrily in the air*
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