I think we can file this in the "what were they thinking" category
- TrueBlue9182

Wideman = this year's Wisniewski.

The other thing that complicates the RFA offer sheet is the team signing the player has to own and then forfeit all of its own picks in those rounds. They can't substitute another pick in place of their own.

However, if a team wanted to offer MDZ that kind of money I would talk to that team to see if we could agree on some form of compensation that would help now and if that didn't work I would take the draft picks. If we give MDZ $5.25 million per now as a RFA we can't deny McD around $7 million in the same boat next year. Just can't do it.
- gkmkiller

maybe that's why the Rangers are trying to acquire every team's 3rd round pick in next year's draft

The other thing that complicates the RFA offer sheet is the team signing the player has to own and then forfeit all of its own picks in those rounds. They can't substitute another pick in place of their own.

However, if a team wanted to offer MDZ that kind of money I would talk to that team to see if we could agree on some form of compensation that would help now and if that didn't work I would take the draft picks. If we give MDZ $5.25 million per now as a RFA we can't deny McD around $7 million in the same boat next year. Just can't do it.
- gkmkiller

Match the offer and bury him in Hartford, just to spite him and deter any future RFA from signing offer sheets.

Match the offer and bury him in Hartford, just to spite him and deter any future RFA from signing offer sheets.
- Pete V

Hartford is far too luxurious. Send him all the way down to Greenville to play in the ECHL. Then we seek revenge on the club that signs him. Gloves off, we chase every attractive RFA they have and submit offer sheets that force them to match. Salt the earth!!!

maybe that's why the Rangers are trying to acquire every team's 3rd round pick in next year's draft
- jimbro83

That's a good strategy. Nice Slats, I didn't even consider that option.

Match the offer and bury him in Hartford, just to spite him and deter any future RFA from signing offer sheets.
- Pete V

Hahahaha that would be funny .... I say go for Ryan or
Evander Kane

Match the offer and bury him in Hartford, just to spite him and deter any future RFA from signing offer sheets.
- Pete V

Why bury him? Player has a right to earn what he can, think if Rangers have competitive offer, it won't even get to that point.

Why bury him? Player has a right to earn what he can, think if Rangers have competitive offer, it won't even get to that point.
- airjan23

Just to be humorous...... and to teach little ingrates like him never to cross Glen Sather.

Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector
If Wideman gets $5.25M a year, Suter is worth eleventy gazillion

Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector
If Wideman gets $5.25M a year, Suter is worth eleventy gazillion
- jimbro83

Suter's agent is def doing a little jig right now

story came out yesterday that in the middle of the 91-92 season, Neil Smith worked out a trade to acquire Adam Oates from St. Louis for James Patrick and Darren Turcotte.

Everything was all set but Neil wanted to check with Roger Neilson to make sure he was ok with it, he wasn't, the trade was off, and St Louis then traded Oates to Boston for Craig Janney and Stephane Quintal.

Oates had a 142 point season the next year for the Bruins.

story came out yesterday that in the middle of the 91-92 season, Neil Smith worked out a trade to acquire Adam Oates from St. Louis for James Patrick and Darren Turcotte.

Everything was all set but Neil wanted to check with Roger Neilson to make sure he was ok with it, he wasn't, the trade was off, and St Louis then traded Oates to Boston for Craig Janney and Stephane Quintal.

Oates had a 142 point season the next year for the Bruins.
- jimbro83

As much as we might think it was a bad non-trade, we did end up flipping Patrick and Turcotte in a three-way deal to land Steve Larmer. Who knows whether we win the cup with Oates. Or perhaps we win multiple cups. We'll never know; that's the curse of hindsight in situations like this.

As much as we might think it was a bad non-trade, we did end up flipping Patrick and Turcotte in a three-way deal to land Steve Larmer. Who knows whether we win the cup with Oates. Or perhaps we win multiple cups. We'll never know; that's the curse of hindsight in situations like this.
- gkmkiller

yep, definitely true

story came out yesterday that in the middle of the 91-92 season, Neil Smith worked out a trade to acquire Adam Oates from St. Louis for James Patrick and Darren Turcotte.

Everything was all set but Neil wanted to check with Roger Neilson to make sure he was ok with it, he wasn't, the trade was off, and St Louis then traded Oates to Boston for Craig Janney and Stephane Quintal.

Oates had a 142 point season the next year for the Bruins.
- jimbro83

And speaking of this, that book looks pretty interesting. I'm sure you saw what some within hockey, including Neil Smith and Jim Devellano, said about Mike Keenan. Very interesting stuff.

And speaking of this, that book looks pretty interesting. I'm sure you saw what some within hockey, including Neil Smith and Jim Devellano, said about Mike Keenan. Very interesting stuff.
- gkmkiller

no, I actually didn't see...

intrigued

no, I actually didn't see...

intrigued
- jimbro83

Yeah, it was on Sunday or Monday on SNY.

story came out yesterday that in the middle of the 91-92 season, Neil Smith worked out a trade to acquire Adam Oates from St. Louis for James Patrick and Darren Turcotte.

Everything was all set but Neil wanted to check with Roger Neilson to make sure he was ok with it, he wasn't, the trade was off, and St Louis then traded Oates to Boston for Craig Janney and Stephane Quintal.

Oates had a 142 point season the next year for the Bruins.
- jimbro83

http://www.statshockey.ne.../pro/100pointplayers.html

Oates' season that year was the 23rd best individual points season of all-time (a list dominated by Gretzky and Lemieux). Not to mention, he scored 45 goals, which was way, way above his career average.

Some of those season point totals were absurd. Hockey was definetely a much different game in the 1980s and early 1990s.

http://www.statshockey.net/pro/100pointplayers.html

Oates' season that year was the 23rd best individual points season of all-time (a list dominated by Gretzky and Lemieux). Not to mention, he scored 45 goals, which was way, way above his career average.

Some of those season point totals were absurd. Hockey was definetely a much different game in the 1980s and early 1990s.
- Pete V

Oates played with Neely

just thinking, if it had happened, Oates probably would have played with Gartner

lines:

Graves-Messier-Amonte
? -Oates-Gartner?

maybe Amonte never gets traded, maybe Weight doesn't. Maybe 92-93 isn't so bad, maybe Keenan isn't hired..

It changes everything, makes my head explode

Oates played with Neely

just thinking, if it had happened, Oates probably would have played with Gartner

lines:

Graves-Messier-Amonte
? -Oates-Gartner?

maybe Amonte never gets traded, maybe Weight doesn't. Maybe 92-93 isn't so bad, maybe Keenan isn't hired..

It changes everything, makes my head explode
- jimbro83

Sliding doors ...

It's amazing to think about such things.

I met my wife in the end zone of Notre Dame Stadium in 1994, after Michigan kicked a last second field goal to win the game, and us bunch of miscreants, who Notre Dame for some inexplicable reason put behind the goal posts, rushed the field. If Michigan misses that field goal, I am probably not married to the same woman, I don't have my kids, who the hell knows that my life would be like. The kick gets blocked, or sails wide right, life is completely different.

Sliding doors ...

It's amazing to think about such things.

I met my wife in the end zone of Notre Dame Stadium in 1994, after Michigan kicked a last second field goal to win the game, and us bunch of miscreants, who Notre Dame for some inexplicable reason put behind the goal posts, rushed the field. If Michigan misses that field goal, I am probably not married to the same woman, I don't have my kids, who the hell knows that my life would be like. The kick gets blocked, or sails wide right, life is completely different.
- Pete V

dude, we need to smoke some pot and really talk about all this

roster review blog up, girardi, hagelin, kreider, lundqvist, plus some quick thoughts

dude, we need to smoke some pot and really talk about all this
- jimbro83

Somehow I missed this the other day. Friggin hilarious Jimmy.