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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:17 PM ET
Frank Seravalli ‏@DNFlyers

Terry Murray officially named coach of the AHL's Adirondack Phantoms.







Now the kids will be learning the right way to play defensive hockey.

- MBFlyerfan


Monarchs East
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:20 PM ET
Monarchs East
- Crimsoninja


Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:30 PM ET
Steve Downie 5.3 M for 2 yrs with the Avs
- Marc D



Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:30 PM ET
not if his cap hit is gonna be around 6 mil
- FlyerMike18



yup.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:33 PM ET
Not this guy. I'll be posting how he is Leino part deux.
- Daman


Except for the part where Carle has been a point producing NHL defensman since he came into the League, what 6 years ago? And has put up 3 straight solid Seasons of 30 or more points as a defenseman. While Leino has had exactly one good NHL Season. But otherwise, hey I can see the comparison.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
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Jun 29 @ 2:37 PM ET
@NHLFlyers: #Flyers name Ian Laperriere Director of Player Development. FULL RELEASE: http://t.co/gs88kpuS
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:38 PM ET
@NHLFlyers: #Flyers name Ian Laperriere Director of Player Development. FULL RELEASE: http://t.co/gs88kpuS
- funmaster18

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:39 PM ET

- Don'tForgetTocchet

seems appropriate to discuss Downie during this whole Matt Carle debate
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:39 PM ET
What happened to the handshake deal Carle and the Flyers had? Bad reporting, or Carle and his agent having a change of heart once Calgary lost their mind with Wideman?

If the Flyers options are overpaying Carle, or letting him walk, let him walk and make due with what is in place.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
seems appropriate to discuss Downie during this whole Matt Carle debate
- Marc D



i was sorta hoping by some magic he'd come back to us.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:42 PM ET
@NHLFlyers: #Flyers name Ian Laperriere Director of Player Development. FULL RELEASE: http://t.co/gs88kpuS
- funmaster18

happy for lappy
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:43 PM ET
What happened to the handshake deal Carle and the Flyers had? Bad reporting, or Carle and his agent having a change of heart once Calgary lost their mind with Wideman?

If the Flyers options are overpaying Carle, or letting him walk, let him walk and make due with what is in place.

- PLindbergh31

Carle pulled a Homer, crossed two of his toes during the hand shake. Gave him a taste of his own medicine. Previous victims of the "Homer toe cross" are Carter, Richards, and JVR.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
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Jun 29 @ 2:43 PM ET
What happened to the handshake deal Carle and the Flyers had? Bad reporting, or Carle and his agent having a change of heart once Calgary lost their mind with Wideman?

If the Flyers options are overpaying Carle, or letting him walk, let him walk and make due with what is in place.

- PLindbergh31


With Weber and Enstrom available (possibly), I'd like to see them let Carle walk if his price is too high. I'd rather have cap space to take a shot at the real deal next year then overpay for a decent player like Carle now. You never know who will/may step up with increased ice time due to Carles departure.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
i'm willing to bet niemi's numbers were not much better than leight's.
- aightwebang17


Leight's GAA and SV% were better overall during the PO's but somehow Niemi was able to squeak out two more wins in the finals.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
happy for lappy
- feelingkettle


Let's get that to trend on twitter
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
Carle pulled a Homer, crossed two of his toes during the hand shake. Gave him a taste of his own medicine. Previous victims of the "Homer toe cross" are Carter, Richards, and JVR.
- feelingkettle




Fair point, and although meant in jest, there may be something to it. Carle may figure after seeing the team change course like a person changes underwear, that he doesn't want to sign a 4 or 5 year deal to turn around and be traded on a whim.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 29 @ 2:45 PM ET
i was sorta hoping by some magic he'd come back to us.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

there is still time

Rocky Choc hates him, but I think he's come a fair ways from that stupid hit
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:46 PM ET
@NHLFlyers: #Flyers name Ian Laperriere Director of Player Development. FULL RELEASE: http://t.co/gs88kpuS
- funmaster18


Awesome that the guy plays here only one year and decides to stay on.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
With Weber and Enstrom available (possibly), I'd like to see them let Carle walk if his price is too high. I'd rather have cap space to take a shot at the real deal next year then overpay for a decent player like Carle now. You never know who will/may step up with increased ice time due to Carles departure.
- funmaster18


My issue is this, Schenn was acquired to significantly upgrade the # 6 dman position held down last year by Lilja, Bourdon, and Gustafsson, I believe he does that, however if Carle is not retained, nor a suitable replacement brought in, you are essentially replacing Carle with Schenn while losing JVR in the process. Under that scenario, the team is not improving.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
Except for the part where Carle has been a point producing NHL defensman since he came into the League, what 6 years ago? And has put up 3 straight solid Seasons of 30 or more points as a defenseman. While Leino has had exactly one good NHL Season. But otherwise, hey I can see the comparison.
- MJL


Dont read too much into this Sherlock. The comparison is simply that Carle could be another overpaid free agent.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:49 PM ET


Fair point, and although meant in jest, there may be something to it. Carle may figure after seeing the team change course like a person changes underwear, that he doesn't want to sign a 4 or 5 year deal to turn around and be traded on a whim.

- PLindbergh31


possibly, but i think carle (as a ufa) would be able to include a ntc that kicks in immediately. he wouldn't have to wait for it to vest, like richards, carter, jvr.... who all signed before they were UFA eligible

where this could bite us is two years down the road with giroux, schenn, couturier
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
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Jun 29 @ 2:49 PM ET
@NHLFlyers: #Flyers name Ian Laperriere Director of Player Development. FULL RELEASE: http://t.co/gs88kpuS
- funmaster18


The one and only move the Flyers will make that I think everyone can agree on and be happy about.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
My issue is this, Schenn was acquired to significantly upgrade the # 6 dman position held down last year by Lilja, Bourdon, and Gustafsson, I believe he does that, however if Carle is not retained, nor a suitable replacement brought in, you are essentially replacing Carle with Schenn while losing JVR in the process. Under that scenario, the team is not improving.
- PLindbergh31


I agree with you. That's why I was against any trade with Anaheim that involved a roster defenseman. Losing Carle and adding Schenn is definitely a step backwards. At least for the short term. That's if they don't replace him. And with timonen possibly being out for a bit, I'm not exactly feeling warm and fuzzy about the defense.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 29 @ 2:51 PM ET
Awesome that the guy plays here only one year and decides to stay on.
- 77rams


Absolutely! Flyers are lucky to have him working with the youngsters.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 29 @ 2:52 PM ET
The one and only move the Flyers will make that I think everyone can agree on and be happy about.
- PLindbergh31


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