I just still don't see Parise signing with any team within the Devils division. But that is just me.
- MBFlyerfan

I agree.

Sid took a monster discount though. It would be tough for them to get Malkin to do the same when he could make a lot more on the open market. A lot depends on what will happen with the CBA too.
- NickTheKid87

IDK... It might seem like a monster discount, but I think it came down to reasonable people agreeing on reasonable terms. Word around town is Crosby and agent understand the Pens are taking a pretty big risk and are comfortable with reflecting it in the terms of the deal.

Malkin doesn't seem to be the typical Russian. Who knows how it will play out, but the guy is fairly "happy go lucky". Nobody knows. Yes the CBA will have a lot to say too.

Uh...what?

I like Bob and all, but you should check out his numbers, bud.
- LordStanley88

Bob > Leighton

Leigton's cap hit < Bob's

it's still weaker with Leighton.

$30-40 million dollars can change that mindset very quickly.
- Flyers2821

Sure it can, but I doubt any of the offers are that much more than any other. Frankly I think some of these reports are nonsense. Just people throwing poop out there to try to drive up the prices.

Its a new Twitter world.

I'd plug in Stamkos for the 2nd line also.
- MJL

sounds good. Possibly get Tavares as well?

Bob > Leighton

Leigton's cap hit < Bob's

it's still weaker with Leighton.
- hockeylover

That remains to be seen, simply contingent on how many games Bryz plays. If Bryz puts a up a Bryz type year and Leighton plays 15 games, it really doesn't matter does it?

Bob > Leighton

Leigton's cap hit < Bob's

it's still weaker with Leighton.
- hockeylover

Bob has more upside and value, sure, but at this point in time I don't think one is better than the other.

IDK... It might seem like a monster discount, but I think it came down to reasonable people agreeing on reasonable terms. Word around town is Crosby and agent understand the Pens are taking a pretty big risk and are comfortable with reflecting it in the terms of the deal.

Malkin doesn't seem to be the typical Russian. Who knows how it will play out, but the guy is fairly "happy go lucky". Nobody knows. Yes the CBA will have a lot to say too.
- madmike71

Crosby would have made a lot more on the open market. Also you have to factor in what he means to the Penguins franchise. He built that stadium and kept the team from moving to KC. Without him, there would be no Penguins most likely. He's the biggest draw they have by far. His concussion issues are overblown too IMO. Look at guys like Patrice Bergeron who have suffered multiple concussion BEFORE everyone was incredibly prudent about them. It's just because Sid is the face of the league.

Also, I agree about Malkin. He plays hard and has the hockey sense to be the player he is. He's not like Semin, Radulov or Zherdev in that regard.

Bob > Leighton

Leigton's cap hit < Bob's

it's still weaker with Leighton.
- hockeylover

Leights will play about 15 games. If he goes 8-7 or 9-6 or better than I consider that a success.

Bob has more upside and value, sure, but at this point in time I don't think one is better than the other.
- LordStanley88

Plus you have to consider the roles they are in as well. Bob in his role of backup was clearly not working as planned.

Leighton in role of backup is clearly better than Bob in role of backup for a whole slew of reasons.

Bob has more upside and value, sure, but at this point in time I don't think one is better than the other.
- LordStanley88

Leighton + Leighton's cap hit + 3 draft picks > Bob

IMO the ideal situation is

Parise to Minnesota
Suter to Detroit

We kick the tires on Doan

Jagr walks

Carle - who knows

We sit tight and keep our cap space and our talent. We seek the best deal - Weber or Ryan if reasonable.

Anyone know if there are any other FA on our radar?

sounds good. Possibly get Tavares as well?
- flyersfan51

Nashville trades Rinne and Weber to flyers for Bryz and MAB, and a 1st
Anaheim trades Ryan to the Flyers for Read and a 2014 1st
Tampa trades Stamkos to the Flyers for B Schenn and a 2nd
Suter accepts the Flyers offer sheet
Briere suddenly waives his NMC and he gets traded to Calgary for Iginla

Ed Snider is seen paying off various paparazzi in a nondescript philly diner in exchange for sets. And sets of glossy photos of said GM's in a manila envelope.

IMO the ideal situation is

Parise to Minnesota
Suter to Detroit

We kick the tires on Doan

Jagr walks

Carle - who knows

We sit tight and keep our cap space and our talent. We seek the best deal - Weber or Ryan if reasonable.

Anyone know if there are any other FA on our radar?
- Daman

So your best case scenario is we do absolutely nothing and head into the season with the roster we currently have? Interesting.

Sid took a monster discount though. It would be tough for them to get Malkin to do the same when he could make a lot more on the open market. A lot depends on what will happen with the CBA too.
- NickTheKid87

Sid and Malkin are making 8.7, Neal, Martin and Fleury are making 5. 32.4 million on 5 guys. give Parise, say, 7.5 million. its so staggering to think of just under 40 million on 6 guys leaving 30 million for the remaining 17 players.

IMO the ideal situation is

Parise to Minnesota
Suter to Detroit

We kick the tires on Doan

Jagr walks

Carle - who knows

We sit tight and keep our cap space and our talent. We seek the best deal - Weber or Ryan if reasonable.

Anyone know if there are any other FA on our radar?
- Daman

Finally a voice of reason?

Ive been saying all along that I would be happy if they resign Carle, get some sandpaper on defense, sign a big defensive forward, and get a cheap backup goalie who knows his role..


Sandpaper? Schenn....check
Cheap backup goalie who knows his role? Leighton....check
Big defensive oriented forward? Git er dun Homer.

I would be interested at Doan for 2 seasons. Any more scares me because of the way over 35 works. If the Flyers have to go 3 then I would think about it depending on the cap hit...4 years, as has been reported, is nuts.

Sid and Malkin are making 8.7, Neal, Martin and Fleury are making 5. 32.4 million on 5 guys. give Parise, say, 7.5 million. its so staggering to think of just under 40 million on 6 guys leaving 30 million for the remaining 17 players.
- nastyflyergirl

That's crazy. The benefit of having players like Malkin and Crosby is that you don't need to give them great wingers. Crosby has the forth highest points per game average of all time playing with wingers like Bill Guerin, Pascal Dupuis and Chris Kunitz.

We sit tight and keep our cap space and our talent. We seek the best deal - Weber or Ryan if reasonable.
- Daman

There won't be a reasonable deal to be made for Weber, whether it's via trade this year or UFA next year. Price will be astronomical.

Plus you have to consider the roles they are in as well. Bob in his role of backup was clearly not working as planned.

Leighton in role of backup is clearly better than Bob in role of backup for a whole slew of reasons.
- MBFlyerfan

I don't know if Leighton is a better backup than Bobrovsky, but I do know neither has shown to be very comfortable with that role. Personally, I'm content with the draft picks we got out of our backup transactions.

There won't be a reasonable deal to be made for Weber, whether it's via trade this year or UFA next year. Price will be astronomical.
- bmeltzer

another work stoppage is looming.

There won't be a reasonable deal to be made for Weber, whether it's via trade this year or UFA next year. Price will be astronomical.
- bmeltzer

Bill, to be clear, I was speaking in terms of players that would be sacrificed.

I don't know what it what take - but the hypothetical Read, Voracek and Coburn (plus picks) is reasonable to me. Not cheap and it is painful, but reasonable.

I think we all know the $$ will be sky high.

There won't be a reasonable deal to be made for Weber, whether it's via trade this year or UFA next year. Price will be astronomical.
- bmeltzer

This could be the reason why the Flyers are going hard after Suter.

This could be the reason why the Flyers are going hard after Suter.
- stveshdy

+ the whole Carle situation.

I don't know if Leighton is a better backup than Bobrovsky, but I do know neither has shown to be very comfortable with that role. Personally, I'm content with the draft picks we got out of our backup transactions.
- BulliesPhan87

Its also about accepting your role. Bob never accepted being a backup. Leighton does.

Again, if you are going to get in to maybe 15 games this year, who is the better backup? Bob Or Leighton?

I don't really see Bob being happy playing 15 games do you? As I said there are many things that factor in to it.

+ the whole Carle situation.
- LordStanley88

Carle is about to get paid. I know there was an article about how close Suter and Carle are in comparison but I would take Suter anyday over Carle. Suter is a legitimate first pairing defenseman. He's not Chara or Weber but hes definately one of the better defenseman in this league. Hes an all star caliber player.