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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:24 AM ET
If you had to choose one over Suter or Parise. Which would you take. I'd take Suter.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:26 AM ET
If you had to choose one over Suter or Parise. Which would you take. I'd take Suter.
- MJL

Suter. He fills the bigger need. And honestly if we decide to go after Weber next year having Suter on our side could only help.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:28 AM ET
Suter. He fills the bigger need. And honestly if we decide to go after Weber next year having Suter on our side could only help.
- hereticpride



The only problem is signing Suter now could take them out of the Weber sweepstakes next Season.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:31 AM ET
The only problem is signing Suter now could take them out of the Weber sweepstakes next Season.
- MJL


They'll be in the Weber sweepstakes no matter what. They always find a way to be in all the sweepstakes. I'm still a tad fuzzy how they're in these right now
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:31 AM ET
The only problem is signing Suter now could take them out of the Weber sweepstakes next Season.
- MJL


As weird as it sounds to say, I think Suter is the less likely of the two to sign here. I think both are absolute pipe dreams, and in the end this wild goose chase for two players that never really had any plan on signing here will hurt them. I agree to with Toc, go after Doan or another complimentary winger and sign Carle. Get aggressive with Weber next year when you have the cap space and other needs are less apparent.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:32 AM ET
The only problem is signing Suter now could take them out of the Weber sweepstakes next Season.
- MJL

But with Kimmo coming off the books that clears most of the room. You might need to get a little creative but I hardly see them being out because they sign Suter.
Tartan69
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Section 112, PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:33 AM ET
Homer please listen to Tocchet!!!
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:34 AM ET
If you had to choose one over Suter or Parise. Which would you take. I'd take Suter.
- MJL


Parise.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:35 AM ET
parise had 69 points last season. granted, he had the ACL injury the year before, but was still a -5 this season. playoffs, 8 goals 7 assists -8 in 24 playoffs games. good, but hardly great.

these contract offers are a joke.

- murdoch


The market is what the market is but Parise is a bonafide top-shelf player, imho.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:35 AM ET
I'd go w/ suter as well, but how about scrapping all of this and...

shipping the schenn bros & and whatever, for Kane and Bogo from WPG.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:36 AM ET
If you had to choose one over Suter or Parise. Which would you take. I'd take Suter.
- MJL


Today, yes, I agree. The defense needs are greater than the offense needs at this time.

Were I starting a team today and those were my only choices as a first pick, I'd pick Parise.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:38 AM ET
The market is what the market is but Parise is a bonafide top-shelf player, imho.
- Scoob


agreed. think his numbers would have been better had he not mostly played with kovalchuk, actually. he took almost 100 less shots this year than in 09 and 10.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:40 AM ET
If you had to choose one over Suter or Parise. Which would you take. I'd take Suter.
- MJL


Bobby Ryan and Weber next year.

Hartnell and Timonen come off the books next year and you make a monster push for Weber.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jul 3 @ 8:44 AM ET
Suter 2012 PO stats: 10 Games, 1G, 3A, -5.
Career PO stats: 39 Games, 4G, 9A, -4.

Not exactly what I'd call stepping up.

- 77rams



But he plays in front of a goalie that is a sieve and a team that doesn't play defense...



bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:44 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Petty Thoughts, Leier, Eddy
- bmeltzer


Not sure what the price difference between Doan and Semin will be, but based on their age and talent levels -- I'd rather have Semin. He could be a great sniper playing alongside Briere. And don't let the stereotypes fool you, he's actually an above average player in the defensive zone (for a player of his skill level).
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:47 AM ET
If these 2 (frank)s stay with their current teams, there will be a lot of upset people...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:47 AM ET
Tocchet is so right.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:47 AM ET
If you had to choose one over Suter or Parise. Which would you take. I'd take Suter.
- MJL


Suter.

Then use the Timonen's money on a forward next year.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:48 AM ET
Only issue with Weber is... does he even make it to UFA? It is one thing for the Preds to let Suter walk this year because they made a full press push to sign him. If Suter walks, Weber is leaving as well... how do you just let Weber walk? You have to trade him to replenish right?

Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:49 AM ET
Suter.

Then use the Timonen's money on a forward next year.

- bradleyc4


You mean get Bobby Ryan.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:50 AM ET
But with Kimmo coming off the books that clears most of the room. You might need to get a little creative but I hardly see them being out because they sign Suter.
- hereticpride



It's not just Cap space. It's money also.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:50 AM ET
All I know is we are a team that both guys are considering if they were we woulda done something by now and I find it wierd that no where is mentioning us as in this except for csn
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:51 AM ET
Not sure what the price difference between Doan and Semin will be, but based on their age and talent levels -- I'd rather have Semin. He could be a great sniper playing alongside Briere. And don't let the stereotypes fool you, he's actually an above average player in the defensive zone (for a player of his skill level).
- bradleyc4

McGuire was on tsn calling him a coach killer, bad in the room, but I wouldn't mind him at a fair price...he can't be any worse than zherdev and he has more talent.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:51 AM ET
They'll be in the Weber sweepstakes no matter what. They always find a way to be in all the sweepstakes. I'm still a tad fuzzy how they're in these right now
- eayost



Your probably right on that one.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:51 AM ET
Only issue with Weber is... does he even make it to UFA? It is one thing for the Preds to let Suter walk this year because they made a full press push to sign him. If Suter walks, Weber is leaving as well... how do you just let Weber walk? You have to trade him to replenish right?
- Flyers2821

Offer sheet weber lol
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