Gunnarsson is on the top pair, and is the best "shutdown" guy on the team at the moment. He logs huge minutes. Holzer doesn't replace that. No one on the team does.

Holzer is a 5-6 Dman. That's his upside.
- Brian Huddle

And that's what scares me. For all this talk about the Leafs' supposed depth on the back end, it's a funny jigsaw puzzle without great solutions.

Phaneuf is obviously the #1 guy. In terms of talent, Liles is #2. But is that a great fit? Probably not.

So it goes to Gunnarson by default.

OK, Phaneuf - Gunnarson as #1 pairing.

Then Liles with who at #2? I don't think Gardiner is ready. Franson? No.

Oh, Lord, it may just have to be Komisarek.

Then Gardiner and whomever as the 3rd pairing.

Phaneuf - Gunnarson
Liles - Komi
Gardiner - Franson

Wow, that's underwhelming.

http://twitpic.com/a3he4p

I hate this anticipation knowing that something HAS TO happen up front... BUT WHAT!?!
- markmark

Stasny for number one centerman, luongo for goalie, and chris stewart for our big bodied power forward that can hit, fight, and score.

Trades:

Macarthur+ for stewart

Kulimen, Bozak, Franson, Colborne for Stasny

lombardi, 2nd Rounder 2013, Damigo, Mueller for Luongo


Thus:

Kessel Stasny Lupul

JVR Grabo Stewart

Frattin Mcclement Kadri

Brown Steckel Connolly


Gunner Phaneuf

Gardiner Blacker

Liles Holzer

Ex: Komi

Luongo
Reimer
Scrivens

Stasny for number one centerman, luongo for goalie, and chris stewart for our big bodied power forward that can hit, fight, and score.

Trades:

Macarthur+ for stewart

Kulimen, Bozak, Franson, Colborne for Stasny

lombardi, 2nd Rounder 2013, Damigo, Mueller for Luongo


Thus:

Kessel Stasny Lupul

JVR Grabo Stewart

Frattin Mcclement Kadri

Brown Steckel Connolly


Gunner Phaneuf

Gardiner Blacker

Liles Holzer

Ex: Komi

Luongo
Reimer
Scrivens
- Mapleleafs_91

Deal Connolly to a team under cap floor (as expected) and slot Komarov there.....

http://twitpic.com/a3he4p
- cor99

You know what, I wish him success, he is a good guy and deserved a better fate I hope the change of scenery helps him have a good career.

You know what, I wish him success, he is a good guy and deserved a better fate I hope the change of scenery helps him have a good career.
- wolfos412

Agreed, i had also hoped he would work out with us, because I love the style he plays.... with his heart condition and losing his parents,

Deal Connolly to a team under cap floor (as expected) and slot Komarov there.....
- cor99

True, if we get stasny i would think burke has to get chris stewart they could probably play on the same line again and dominate? I would do this then...

Kessel Grabo Lupul

JVR Stasny Stewart

... how good would those line-ups be

Stasny for number one centerman, luongo for goalie, and chris stewart for our big bodied power forward that can hit, fight, and score.

Trades:

Macarthur+ for stewart

Kulimen, Bozak, Franson, Colborne for Stasny

lombardi, 2nd Rounder 2013, Damigo, Mueller for Luongo


Thus:

Kessel Stasny Lupul

JVR Grabo Stewart

Frattin Mcclement Kadri

Brown Steckel Connolly


Gunner Phaneuf

Gardiner Blacker

Liles Holzer

Ex: Komi

Luongo
Reimer
Scrivens
- Mapleleafs_91

I'm suprised how many fans are OK with trading Kulemin. From what i've seen of playoff hockey ( ) one of the only players we have who can play that way is Kulemin. The guy is so responsble defensively, can score goals (last year withstanding) can hit and is good on the boards. Absolute perfect 3rd line winger. He's probably 1 of 2 or 3 guys we have 29 other teams would love.

Who said to put him in the top 4?

Dion - Gunner
Liles - Gardiner
Franson - Holzer
Komi

According to capgeek Ryan Parent is a UFA.... is that correct?

Also if need be... i wouldn't mind signing Colin White, Steve Staios, Brett Clark to a 1 year deal.... (Again if available, they are listed on capgeek as FA's)
- cor99

We already have Staios.

And that's what scares me. For all this talk about the Leafs' supposed depth on the back end, it's a funny jigsaw puzzle without great solutions.

Phaneuf is obviously the #1 guy. In terms of talent, Liles is #2. But is that a great fit? Probably not.

So it goes to Gunnarson by default.

OK, Phaneuf - Gunnarson as #1 pairing.

Then Liles with who at #2? I don't think Gardiner is ready. Franson? No.

Oh, Lord, it may just have to be Komisarek.

Then Gardiner and whomever as the 3rd pairing.

Phaneuf - Gunnarson
Liles - Komi
Gardiner - Franson

Wow, that's underwhelming.
- Atomic Wedgie

We have too many offensive minded dmen

I'm suprised how many fans are OK with trading Kulemin. From what i've seen of playoff hockey ( ) one of the only players we have who can play that way is Kulemin. The guy is so responsble defensively, can score goals (last year withstanding) can hit and is good on the boards. Absolute perfect 3rd line winger. He's probably 1 of 2 or 3 guys we have 29 other teams would love.
- walshyleafsfan1

Stasny> kulimen

Stewart>kulimen

Stasny for number one centerman, luongo for goalie, and chris stewart for our big bodied power forward that can hit, fight, and score.

Trades:

Macarthur+ for stewart

Kulimen, Bozak, Franson, Colborne for Stasny

lombardi, 2nd Rounder 2013, Damigo, Mueller for Luongo


Thus:

Kessel Stasny Lupul

JVR Grabo Stewart

Frattin Mcclement Kadri

Brown Steckel Connolly


Gunner Phaneuf

Gardiner Blacker

Liles Holzer

Ex: Komi

Luongo
Reimer
Scrivens
- Mapleleafs_91

Defense wins you games, and by the looks of it. We won't win any games with that line up...
Gardiner-Blacker
Liles-Holzer

Would get eaten alive defensively every night.

Defense wins you games, and by the looks of it. We won't win any games with that line up...
Gardiner-Blacker
Liles-Holzer

Would get eaten alive defensively every night.
- jbold

Well you can blame burke for trading schenn away

Well you can blame burke for trading schenn away
- Mapleleafs_91

Don't know why I would blame Burke for your imaginary off season....You're the one who came up with the trades and signing.

If we had a lineup of:

Kessel Grabo Lupul

JVR Stasny Stewart... that be insane. Two top lines could be getting the same amount of minutes a night sharing the workload, that would be a tough for other teams to compete against surely.

Defense wins you games, and by the looks of it. We won't win any games with that line up...
Gardiner-Blacker
Liles-Holzer

Would get eaten alive defensively every night.
- jbold

Holzer is apperantly a very sound stay at home defender.

Don't know why I would blame Burke for your imaginary off season....You're the one who came up with the trades and signing.


- jbold

Yeah but id rather have chris stewart, stasny, and luongo than keep franson who was my only defender in the trades i proposed.

Holzer is apperantly a very sound stay at home defender.
- wolfos412

Yeah, in the AHL.

Do you expect him to shutdown other teams lines in his first season?

Yeah but id rather have chris stewart, stasny, and luongo than keep franson who was my only defender in the trades i proposed.
- Mapleleafs_91

Maybe you'd rather trade for a dman or 2, also..

Yeah, in the AHL.

Do you expect him to shutdown other teams lines in his first season?
- jbold

do you have any better ideas

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod

Ducks want a center (likely 2nd line), a young winger and prospect or high pick for Ryan. Eventually, someone will step up.

Hud, My daughters friend Brent Turnbull is at the Habs Rookie camp, as an unsigned / undrafted player ( Too young ) one of the few invited to stay longer as well...He is very pumped about it..

He was also just rtaded from Bathurst to Sherbrooke..he is happy about that as well.

Holzer is apperantly a very sound stay at home defender.
- wolfos412

I hope so, he's our only physical and stay at home dman we have (and komi but he's useless).. lets hope Holzer can transition nicely to the NHL

I wish I could watch the prospect game
- jbold

go to Mastercard center. It's open to public

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod

Ducks want a center (likely 2nd line), a young winger and prospect or high pick for Ryan. Eventually, someone will step up.
- cor99

Bozak, Kulimen, 1st Rounder 2013, Colborne for Ryan