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I'm pretty sure it's safe to say Iginla is staying put for now...
However, if come trade deadline day the Flames are out of it (I doubt they will be), I could see them moving him if the offer was fantastic. - The-Dalai-Lama
There are currently rumblings that they are working on his extension via twitter.
This could be a good thing, or a bad thing depending on what comes out of it. If Iginla states he wants to retire and dosnt want out, it may hold the Flames from bringing in solid assets from desperate teams, merely meaning they will have to remain even more patient through draft....not always a bad thing either.
If, however, he acknowledges that depending on how the team is doing he will accept a trade, that would benefit the team as a slightly longer contract for Iggy could bring more in trade as it guarantees he wont walk once traded. |
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KABLOOEY
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There are currently rumblings that they are working on his extension via twitter.
This could be a good thing, or a bad thing depending on what comes out of it. If Iginla states he wants to retire and dosnt want out, it may hold the Flames from bringing in solid assets from desperate teams, merely meaning they will have to remain even more patient through draft....not always a bad thing either.
If, however, he acknowledges that depending on how the team is doing he will accept a trade, that would benefit the team as a slightly longer contract for Iggy could bring more in trade as it guarantees he wont walk once traded. - noename09
Not sure where i heard it but someone (maybe a troll) was saying that Iggy had already turned down 2 contract extensions. Not sure if you've heard anything. |
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fair enough man. if you guys are looking for the talented young front line forward the pens certainly dont have that right now. however, they are going to be very tough to pry out from someone. harringon is regarded as a very solid d prospect, although not having say shea weber potential, but still has decent value. im honestly not sure what kind of offers would be there for iginla. im sure the some teams could top what the pens could throw in, but the pens could also offer better than most. i still dont see him being moved though, but you have to admit it may be wise to - stayinthefnnet
where Iginla will garner the most in trades would be nearing the deadline...for a team who needs that extra vet push to better their odds at the cup. There are many teams who would love to get their hands on him...hes a solid player, solid person and can bring a lot to a team who is ready for the cup.
Feaster will have a tough time putting the teams needs, and respecting Iginlas wishes if he wants to stick around. Feaster should recognize the need for younger talent and that someone like Iginla can only do so much on his own. |
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you are correct sir, and like Burke in Toronto, Feasters draft picks have not even come to fruition yet. We will get a better idea in 2 years how hes done, and hopefully in the mean time he can bring in more youth via trade/draft. - noename09
Exactly, unlike the NFL/NBA, NHL prospects need a few years to mature in order for them to become effective at the NHL level.
It will definitely take some time to determine whether or not the new flames management is doing a better job drafting... |
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Not sure where i heard it but someone (maybe a troll) was saying that Iggy had already turned down 2 contract extensions. Not sure if you've heard anything. - KABLOOEY
I have just retweeted a "source" claiming they are working on it (@noename09)
but here is the link from TheFourthPeriod
www.thefourthperiod.com/news/cgy120703.html
Where they get their info from (although sounds more like a guess) is from recent interviews with Feaster who said they will be looking into Iginlas situation very soon, its a top priority. Dosnt mean they are working on extensions by any means. They may be sorting out possibly trade scenarios and what Iginla would like.
Keep in mind, the guy has done a ton for the team and its fanbase/city. You need to respect his wishes, but also keep the teams needs in mind too. If they do resign him, it could be a sign/trade as Iginla may want to ensure he gets the money he wants. But if its another NTC, this just means Feaster will ask his fans to remain patient...as it will take longer to retool this team with youth. |
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geta02it
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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There are currently rumblings that they are working on his extension via twitter.
This could be a good thing, or a bad thing depending on what comes out of it. If Iginla states he wants to retire and dosnt want out, it may hold the Flames from bringing in solid assets from desperate teams, merely meaning they will have to remain even more patient through draft....not always a bad thing either.
If, however, he acknowledges that depending on how the team is doing he will accept a trade, that would benefit the team as a slightly longer contract for Iggy could bring more in trade as it guarantees he wont walk once traded. - noename09
Ray Borque scenario? |
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Ray Borque scenario? - geta02it
hope not lol....I would think Iginla is driving the car behind any of these potential moves |
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Where they get their info from (although sounds more like a guess) is from recent interviews with Feaster who said they will be looking into Iginlas situation very soon, its a top priority. Dosnt mean they are working on extensions by any means. They may be sorting out possibly trade scenarios and what Iginla would like.
Keep in mind, the guy has done a ton for the team and its fanbase/city. You need to respect his wishes, but also keep the teams needs in mind too. If they do resign him, it could be a sign/trade as Iginla may want to ensure he gets the money he wants. But if its another NTC, this just means Feaster will ask his fans to remain patient...as it will take longer to retool this team with youth. - noename09
They should just ink a 5 year, 25 million dollar deal and be done with it. |
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They should just ink a 5 year, 25 million dollar deal and be done with it. - The-Dalai-Lama
Given that he just turned 35, and that hell likely play those 4-5years.....thats a decent hometown discount
Unless its something like
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Exactly, unlike the NFL/NBA, NHL prospects need a few years to mature in order for them to become effective at the NHL level.
It will definitely take some time to determine whether or not the new flames management is doing a better job drafting... - The-Dalai-Lama
and thats just it...Feaster took over about 2 years ago! What exactly did you expect from him in about 2 years?
He didnt arguably have all too much to work with when he took over, and had some contracts that he needed to improve upon. Since stepping in, he has no doubt made the current team stronger, and has brough in some solid prospects (one being still debatable).
In about two years you will start to see how exactly the changes hes made will affect the team, and I certainly hope (given his experience) that he understands you cant be a bubble team for three straight years and not make necessary changes. |
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tincup
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Geez, for a 3rd pairing D man I was surprised to see that Wideman averaged 24 minutes a game last year.
Nice try though... - The-Dalai-Lama
No kidding, the guy led his team in ice time last year. Lots of hate for all things Flames on here. Not that I mind though. Looks like this team is going to score a lot of goals and be very weak defending. Should make for exciting hockey if nothing else.... poor Kipper. |
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No kidding, the guy led his team in ice time last year. Lots of hate for all things Flames on here. Not that I mind though. Looks like this team is going to score a lot of goals and be very weak defending. Should make for exciting hockey if nothing else.... poor Kipper. - tincup
nice thing is, theres a few younger defenders movin on up who could help down the road. |
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KABLOOEY
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No kidding, the guy led his team in ice time last year. Lots of hate for all things Flames on here. Not that I mind though. Looks like this team is going to score a lot of goals and be very weak defending. Should make for exciting hockey if nothing else.... poor Kipper. - tincup
I don't know about that. I think Brodie will be that much better again, Smith was playing awesome until he got hurt, JBo is steady eddy, Wideman's offense should help cover up any defensive liabilities (I hope), Gio, well it's Gio, Sarich is a guy you have to have (and the contract is awesome), Butler is the one guy I hope improves the most. (makes me nervous as hell) |
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No kidding, the guy led his team in ice time last year. Lots of hate for all things Flames on here. Not that I mind though. Looks like this team is going to score a lot of goals and be very weak defending. Should make for exciting hockey if nothing else.... poor Kipper. - tincup
I love all the hate haha....even from the so-called Flames "fans" who just constantly bash the team based off of all the crap people write about them rather than form their own opinion.
Seriously, all of the "Calgary needs to rebuild", "The Flames need to do what Edmonton did", "They need to trade Iggy and Kipper" talk is getting hilarious. Apparently everyone has become an expert on the Flames. Fact is, these people are just regurgitating things they have heard from joe-blow on some local sports talk radio show in Ontario or Quebec. These people don't actually know, watch, or follow the team.
At least we have an ownership here that is willing to spend the money to try and deliver a respectable hockey team, rather than masking salary dumps as "rebuilding".
I'm a Flames fan, and i'm actually really excited about the upcoming season. I think they Flames are going to be underrated this season even though on paper they have a REALLY solid team. Seriously if you look up at their line up top to bottom they are very solid. Could still use help/size at center, and maybe a bit more great, but every team has holes somewhere.
Can't wait for October!!!
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Been screwin around on the capgeek calculator all morning. Love that site lol....Ive guessed your depth chart will look something like
Tanguay Cervenka Iginla
Cammalleri Backlund Hudler
Glencross Stajan Stempniak
Jackman Jones Comeau
Bouma
JayBo Wideman
Giordano Sarich
Butler Babchuk
Smith
Kipper
Karlsson - t_leafs21
I expect to see something more like this, especially because you have left out Baertschi:
Tanguay-Cammalleri-Iginla
Baertschi-Cervenka-Hudler
Glencross-Backlund-Stempniak
Jackman-Stajan-Comeau
Extras: Jones/Bouma
JayBo-Wideman
Giordano-Butler
Sarich-Brodie
Extras: Smith/Babchuck
Kipper
Irving
I still think they have a few more bodies than they need. I could see a potential Boumeester + Backlund deal at some point for some strength up the middle.
Also I would like to see Jones in there permanently on the 4th line, but again, I think they have a few too many bodies on one-ways. |
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Given that he just turned 35, and that hell likely play those 4-5years.....thats a decent hometown discount
Unless its something like
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2M - noename09
I think that format is probably more likely. Would time out with BAerts contract and Tanguays contracts expiring in that third year too |
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Given that he just turned 35, and that hell likely play those 4-5years.....thats a decent hometown discount
Unless its something like
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6M
6M
4M
2M - noename09
I think that's exactly like what we will see... |
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I expect to see something more like this, especially because you have left out Baertschi:
Tanguay-Cammalleri-Iginla
Baertschi-Cervenka-Hudler
Glencross-Backlund-Stempniak
Jackman-Stajan-Comeau
Extras: Jones/Bouma
JayBo-Wideman
Giordano-Butler
Sarich-Brodie
Extras: Smith/Babchuck
Kipper
Irving
I still think they have a few more bodies than they need. I could see a potential Boumeester + Backlund deal at some point for some strength up the middle.
Also I would like to see Jones in there permanently on the 4th line, but again, I think they have a few too many bodies on one-ways. - The-Dalai-Lama
stajan on the 4th line is useless, put jones there and I'm basically thinking the same thing |
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I love all the hate haha....even from the so-called Flames "fans" who just constantly bash the team based off of all the crap people write about them rather than form their own opinion.
Seriously, all of the "Calgary needs to rebuild", "The Flames need to do what Edmonton did", "They need to trade Iggy and Kipper" talk is getting hilarious. Apparently everyone has become an expert on the Flames. Fact is, these people are just regurgitating things they have heard from joe-blow on some local sports talk radio show in Ontario or Quebec. These people don't actually know, watch, or follow the team.
At least we have an ownership here that is willing to spend the money to try and deliver a respectable hockey team, rather than masking salary dumps as "rebuilding".
I'm a Flames fan, and i'm actually really excited about the upcoming season. I think they Flames are going to be underrated this season even though on paper they have a REALLY solid team. Seriously if you look up at their line up top to bottom they are very solid. Could still use help/size at center, and maybe a bit more great, but every team has holes somewhere.
Can't wait for October!!! - The-Dalai-Lama
I actually fully agree with just about everything you said here.
My only concern, is not how the team may do this year, but in the upcoming years as their main "core pieces" age and can no longer deliver on their own. On one hand you have guys like Iginla and Kipper who are at the prime and holding this team together, but on the other hand they are going to start to decline in production.
Where Calgary differs from stronger teams with older vets, is that they dont have a ton of highly touted prospects who could one day replace what Iginla and company currently bring the team. Now, if the team was only a few tweeks away from competing for the cup it would be in their best interest to keep Iginla and their current core. However, and you may not agree, but the team is a few years away from being contenders which by then Iginlas value to the team wont be as high as it is right now.
The team needs to figure out where they are in the first couple months of the season and make a decision by then. A coaching change can make a world of difference on certain players, and the team could look much different, especially with a few new faces. But the ownership group needs to ensure they keep the future in mind while addressing the current state of the team as well.
I for one, like you, am against a typical "tank/rebuild mode". I much prefer, as a fan and someone who closely follows the team, that they keep an entertaining group for the loyal supporters. What I would love to see out of this year is a commitment to a SINGLE plan. A plan that the team brings in more and more talent and begins to get younger. I want this team to stay compeitive, but I want it to be for MANY years, not just while Iginla is around.
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I expect to see something more like this, especially because you have left out Baertschi:
Tanguay-Cammalleri-Iginla
Baertschi-Cervenka-Hudler
Glencross-Backlund-Stempniak
Jackman-Stajan-Comeau
Extras: Jones/Bouma
JayBo-Wideman
Giordano-Butler
Sarich-Brodie
Extras: Smith/Babchuck
Kipper
Irving
I still think they have a few more bodies than they need. I could see a potential Boumeester + Backlund deal at some point for some strength up the middle.
Also I would like to see Jones in there permanently on the 4th line, but again, I think they have a few too many bodies on one-ways. - The-Dalai-Lama
Id like to see Street challenge for a role too...love to see new younger guys play their hearts out to earn a spot.
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stajan on the 4th line is useless, put jones there and I'm basically thinking the same thing - numbear
Ive been debating writing about Stajan, as I really dont see a place for him on the team and not many teams would show interest, I would imagine.
Only positive is hes young(er), and once showed promise. As mentioned, new faces and new coaching could help....we will have to wait to see I guess. |
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Id like to see Street challenge for a role too...love to see new younger guys play their hearts out to earn a spot. - noename09
Totally forgot about him!!!
Does it not seem like they have too many bodies???
I would also love to see Street get a shot, but there is nowhere to put him!!! |
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Totally forgot about him!!!
Does it not seem like they have too many bodies???
I would also love to see Street get a shot, but there is nowhere to put him!!! - The-Dalai-Lama
Stajans spot
...and its not always a bad thing to have extra pieces, would just be nice if they were deeper at center (mind you, thats a league-wide problem) |
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Ive been debating writing about Stajan, as I really dont see a place for him on the team and not many teams would show interest, I would imagine.
Only positive is hes young(er), and once showed promise. As mentioned, new faces and new coaching could help....we will have to wait to see I guess. - noename09
I'm hoping with Sutter gone, Stajan will get better opportunities. Putting him on the fourth line was the most frustrating thing to me about Sutter. Stajan is probably the best playmaking center on the team and him playing with Jackman and TKO was just plain stupid. I hope Cervenka comes in and makes Stajan expendable but until that happens, they may as well keep him. |
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I'm hoping with Sutter gone, Stajan will get better opportunities. Putting him on the fourth line was the most frustrating thing to me about Sutter. Stajan is probably the best playmaking center on the team and him playing with Jackman and TKO was just plain stupid. I hope Cervenka comes in and makes Stajan expendable but until that happens, they may as well keep him. - tincup
Oh for sure! It will all depend on how Hartley views his teams needs. Coachs often see potential in certain players that others missed, and vis versa. Theres going to be some growing pains with a newer GM and new coach...hopefully they see eye to eye and get the right group together for the long haul.
I wonder what it would take to pry Colin Wilson out of Nashville, or Jamie Benn from Dallas. Benn could be Iginlas replacement down the road...has the size and can score. Would love someone like that...problem is Dallas likely needs him more than Calgary does |
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