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The-Dalai-Lama
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 3 @ 4:43 PM ET
I honestly think it's just trolling.
- KABLOOEY


I don't think so...people LOVE to jump on the Flames, kind of like when everyone thought it was funny to jump all over Tiger Woods a couple of years back.

I was watching free agent frenzy on TSN and the whole panel was just ripping them. It made me pretty damn mad haha.

Either way I like being the underdog that everyone hates. BRING IT ON
The-Dalai-Lama
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
In a second!!! Would never happen though.
- KABLOOEY


I know haha. I'd take a 2nd instead of a first too, especially in next years draft.
bondraovie
Washington Capitals
Location: baltimore, MD
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
I just don't understand why Calgary and it's fans are happy to be in no man's land. Blowing it up like we did obviously doesn't guarantee a cup. But doing what you're doing does guarantee mediocrity. Caps made the same mistake from 99-04 before they finally bit the bullet and blew it up. If you had traded Iginla and Kipper 3 years ago you'd have finished 12th instead of 9th for 3 years but now you'd be a team on the rise. Instead you're throwing good money after bad for a shot at the 8th spot. That market deserves better
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 3 @ 4:49 PM ET
I just don't understand why Calgary and it's fans are happy to be in no man's land. Blowing it up like we did obviously doesn't guarantee a cup. But doing what you're doing does guarantee mediocrity. Caps made the same mistake from 99-04 before they finally bit the bullet and blew it up. If you had traded Iginla and Kipper 3 years ago you'd have finished 12th instead of 9th for 3 years but now you'd be a team on the rise. Instead you're throwing good money after bad for a shot at the 8th spot. That market deserves better
- bondraovie

if we traded kipper 3 years ago and iggy, we would be way lower then 12th. we would possibly be just sneaking into 12th now.

Kipper has kept us in it for the last 3 yrs.
The-Dalai-Lama
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 3 @ 4:55 PM ET
I just don't understand why Calgary and it's fans are happy to be in no man's land. Blowing it up like we did obviously doesn't guarantee a cup. But doing what you're doing does guarantee mediocrity. Caps made the same mistake from 99-04 before they finally bit the bullet and blew it up. If you had traded Iginla and Kipper 3 years ago you'd have finished 12th instead of 9th for 3 years but now you'd be a team on the rise. Instead you're throwing good money after bad for a shot at the 8th spot. That market deserves better
- bondraovie


The way I look at it there are 2 options:

1. "Blow it up" (which nobody ever intends to do and very rarely works).

2. Do what they are doing right now.

The way I see it is that Feaster is looking to build this team through strong drafting and shrewd trades which can bring in some younger talent from the minors who may be getting overlooked i.e. Street.

Finishing last and getting the number 1 overall pick for 3 straight years is pretty much impossible, unless your whole organization is just a JOKE

In either option, the future of this team is all going to come down to good drafting. As a season ticket holder I prefer this option, because shelling out 8k a year to watch a team intentionally tank for 5-6 years is not exactly thrilling to me. I don't want to spend $48,000 to watch that, I don't think any smart person would. Especially since as you say, that would NOT guarantee anything.

I also think the Flames are better than they show last year and the year before. I may be wrong, but some people may be biting their tongues next year (at least I hope)
bondraovie
Washington Capitals
Location: baltimore, MD
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 3 @ 6:13 PM ET
The way I look at it there are 2 options:

1. "Blow it up" (which nobody ever intends to do and very rarely works).

2. Do what they are doing right now.

The way I see it is that Feaster is looking to build this team through strong drafting and shrewd trades which can bring in some younger talent from the minors who may be getting overlooked i.e. Street.

Finishing last and getting the number 1 overall pick for 3 straight years is pretty much impossible, unless your whole organization is just a JOKE

In either option, the future of this team is all going to come down to good drafting. As a season ticket holder I prefer this option, because shelling out 8k a year to watch a team intentionally tank for 5-6 years is not exactly thrilling to me. I don't want to spend $48,000 to watch that, I don't think any smart person would. Especially since as you say, that would NOT guarantee anything.

I also think the Flames are better than they show last year and the year before. I may be wrong, but some people may be biting their tongues next year (at least I hope)

- The-Dalai-Lama

Blowing it up always works: Chi cup. Pit: cup. Was: 4 division titles,5 consecutive playoff births. Edm:soon to be a powerhouse. Calg and Tor: stuck in mediocrity. If you can manage to stay competitive while you rebuild then great but I haven't seen it done by anybody.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 3 @ 6:33 PM ET
Blowing it up always works: Chi cup. Pit: cup. Was: 4 division titles,5 consecutive playoff births. Edm:soon to be a powerhouse. Calg and Tor: stuck in mediocrity. If you can manage to stay competitive while you rebuild then great but I haven't seen it done by anybody.
- bondraovie

but teams that build slower tend to have a longer window. like detroit, Vancouver, and now Philly will (and I think Buffalo and Minnesota will soon).

Pitts is an anomaly since they won a double lotto with a generational talent like Crosby

Chicago had their cup run then lost their team the year after (edmonton will most likely suffer the same fate...but worse since they have more RFA's)

WAS is doing well, but just seem to be lacking something to hit the next level.
The-Dalai-Lama
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 3 @ 6:49 PM ET
Blowing it up always works: Chi cup. Pit: cup. Was: 4 division titles,5 consecutive playoff births. Edm:soon to be a powerhouse. Calg and Tor: stuck in mediocrity. If you can manage to stay competitive while you rebuild then great but I haven't seen it done by anybody.
- bondraovie


Blowing it up always works??? You just picked 2 example of times that it did work...besides, those teams didn't blow jack squat up, they just sucked really bad for a long time, unintentionally.

And woop-d-do, the Caps have a decent team, but their playoff success has been abysmal. Maybe they should blow it up?

What about the Islanders, Blue Jackets, Thrashers etc...those teams suck all the time.

This whole conversation is stupid anyway because nobody ever blows anything up. They just suck.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jul 3 @ 6:51 PM ET
I see Burke has done one hell of a job with free agents. I love his quote that he would've picked MR 1st overall. What a dumb a$$!
- KABLOOEY

Burke>>Feaster


I see Feaster is doing a great job giving out terrible contracts.




Dont worry, according to him, the kid you just drafted is going to win the calder in 10 years
The-Dalai-Lama
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 3 @ 6:58 PM ET
Burke>>Feaster


I see Feaster is doing a great job giving out terrible contracts.




Dont worry, according to him, the kid you just drafted is going to win the calder in 10 years

- jbold


Prove it...
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jul 3 @ 6:59 PM ET
Prove it...
- The-Dalai-Lama



Enjoy your bright future with Iggy,Kipper, Wideman and Hudler.




2 of them will retire in a couple years.

And then you'll have all these expensive contracts and old players.

No future, whats so ever.
all mighty oil
Joined: 11.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:51 PM ET
I don't think so...people LOVE to jump on the Flames, kind of like when everyone thought it was funny to jump all over Tiger Woods a couple of years back.

I was watching free agent frenzy on TSN and the whole panel was just ripping them. It made me pretty damn mad haha.

Either way I like being the underdog that everyone hates. BRING IT ON

- The-Dalai-Lama

difference is T Woods has actually won something
all mighty oil
Joined: 11.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:54 PM ET
The way I look at it there are 2 options:

1. "Blow it up" (which nobody ever intends to do and very rarely works).

2. Do what they are doing right now.

The way I see it is that Feaster is looking to build this team through strong drafting and shrewd trades which can bring in some younger talent from the minors who may be getting overlooked i.e. Street.

Finishing last and getting the number 1 overall pick for 3 straight years is pretty much impossible, unless your whole organization is just a JOKE

In either option, the future of this team is all going to come down to good drafting. As a season ticket holder I prefer this option, because shelling out 8k a year to watch a team intentionally tank for 5-6 years is not exactly thrilling to me. I don't want to spend $48,000 to watch that, I don't think any smart person would. Especially since as you say, that would NOT guarantee anything.

I also think the Flames are better than they show last year and the year before. I may be wrong, but some people may be biting their tongues next year (at least I hope)

- The-Dalai-Lama


can you name 2 players that featser has picked in the draft that have score more than 10 goals in the NHL? good luck
all mighty oil
Joined: 11.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:56 PM ET
Blowing it up always works: Chi cup. Pit: cup. Was: 4 division titles,5 consecutive playoff births. Edm:soon to be a powerhouse. Calg and Tor: stuck in mediocrity. If you can manage to stay competitive while you rebuild then great but I haven't seen it done by anybody.
- bondraovie

only 2 teams in the history have won a cup without 1st 2nd 3rd 4th or 5th overall pick

good luck flamers



all mighty oil
Joined: 11.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
Prove it...
- The-Dalai-Lama

he got hired by the Leafs not the Flamers
all mighty oil
Joined: 11.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
if we traded kipper 3 years ago and iggy, we would be way lower then 12th. we would possibly be just sneaking into 12th now.

Kipper has kept us in it for the last 3 yrs.

- numbear


in what? not the playoffs

Matt16
Calgary Flames
Location: Bathurst , NB
Joined: 08.13.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:38 PM ET
only 2 teams in the history have won a cup without 1st 2nd 3rd 4th or 5th overall pick

good luck flamers




- all mighty oil



JBo is a 3rd overall pick
TheDyingOilerFan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 01.31.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
Holy Crap you guys have a blogger.. well thats a good start I just see alot of these contracts in cow town to be super poopty even tho we are rivals you hate to see a canadian team in the toilet Unless it's the leafs... or us for one more year lol Go Oilers
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 3 @ 9:53 PM ET
geez these oiler trolls are like seagulls at a picnic.

yap yap yap, just a lot of sounds
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jul 3 @ 10:18 PM ET
Holy Crap you guys have a blogger.. well thats a good start I just see alot of these contracts in cow town to be super poopty even tho we are rivals you hate to see a canadian team in the toilet Unless it's the leafs... or us for one more year lol Go Oilers
- TheDyingOilerFan


At least the Oilers have hope of coming back up. The Leafs on the other hand will be circling the bowl for a long time.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:42 AM ET
The way I look at it there are 2 options:

1. "Blow it up" (which nobody ever intends to do and very rarely works).

2. Do what they are doing right now.

The way I see it is that Feaster is looking to build this team through strong drafting and shrewd trades which can bring in some younger talent from the minors who may be getting overlooked i.e. Street.

Finishing last and getting the number 1 overall pick for 3 straight years is pretty much impossible, unless your whole organization is just a JOKE

In either option, the future of this team is all going to come down to good drafting. As a season ticket holder I prefer this option, because shelling out 8k a year to watch a team intentionally tank for 5-6 years is not exactly thrilling to me. I don't want to spend $48,000 to watch that, I don't think any smart person would. Especially since as you say, that would NOT guarantee anything.

I also think the Flames are better than they show last year and the year before. I may be wrong, but some people may be biting their tongues next year (at least I hope)

- The-Dalai-Lama

I'm not sure why people think trading Iggy & Kipper would be considered blowing up the team. Trading Carter & Richards was pretty dramatic, those were young guys & I dont see people saying Philly blew up their team last year. They had some pretty important pieces. Kipper & Iggy are mid thirties, were elite players & now considered very good players that could be huge pieces for a contending team. If we were to trade these two, we still have some pieces to build around & some talented players to keep things interesting. If Iggy doesnt resign this summer, I think then it will wait until the trade deadline & to roll out the Bourque/ trade analogy to a contender to win a cup. I'm just glad Iggy & Feaster are now discussing potential extensions, it wont take long to see where we stand(if any truth to rumours, who says Feaster doesnt already know Iggy's decision) & what future Iggy wants, he's earned that.

Wonder if Bruins, who seem to be interested in JBO would part with Lucic as part of the deal, put him with Baerschte & Cerevenka on a 2nd line would be a sweet thing. Oshie & Rattie for JBO would be interesting too. Thanks for the blogs Colin. Nice to see Flames have a forum to voice opinions. I like your interaction with posters, takes a great commitment .
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:52 AM ET
I'm not sure why people think trading Iggy & Kipper would be considered blowing up the team. Trading Carter & Richards was pretty dramatic, those were young guys & I dont see people saying Philly blew up their team last year. They had some pretty important pieces. Kipper & Iggy are mid thirties, were elite players & now considered very good players that could be huge pieces for a contending team. If we were to trade these two, we still have some pieces to build around & some talented players to keep things interesting. If Iggy doesnt resign this summer, I think then it will wait until the trade deadline & to roll out the Bourque/ trade analogy to a contender to win a cup. I'm just glad Iggy & Feaster are now discussing potential extensions, it wont take long to see where we stand(if any truth to rumours, who says Feaster doesnt already know Iggy's decision) & what future Iggy wants, he's earned that.

Wonder if Bruins, who seem to be interested in JBO would part with Lucic as part of the deal, put him with Baerschte & Cerevenka on a 2nd line would be a sweet thing. Oshie & Rattie for JBO would be interesting too. Thanks for the blogs Colin. Nice to see Flames have a forum to voice opinions. I like your interaction with posters, takes a great commitment .

- Kevin R

JBo/Stajan for Statsny/Hejda
or
JBo/Backland for Berglund/Colaiacovo

would be a good start.

And glad talks started with iginla. That would need to be sorted out before any plans of change are made in a big way anyways
cdninatl
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Acworth, GA
Joined: 12.20.2009

Jul 4 @ 2:01 AM ET
Wow...The Oilers continue to build a powerhouse (2 years away mind you) and yet the Flames wonder why they continue to finish 9th in the west?? Then they pick an unknown at the draft that they could have taken in the second round. And then over-pay for UFA's and give them NTC... Just adding to the insanity of the number of players that can't be moved. Wow...this reminds me of Oilers management 4 years ago.

But at least we woke up and realized something major had to be done. It's not really Feasters fault. It's the owners not being honest to fans... But he will be the next fall guy for the organization....
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:10 AM ET
Wow...The Oilers continue to build a powerhouse (2 years away mind you) and yet the Flames wonder why they continue to finish 9th in the west?? Then they pick an unknown at the draft that they could have taken in the second round. And then over-pay for UFA's and give them NTC... Just adding to the insanity of the number of players that can't be moved. Wow...this reminds me of Oilers management 4 years ago.

But at least we woke up and realized something major had to be done. It's not really Feasters fault. It's the owners not being honest to fans... But he will be the next fall guy for the organization....

- cdninatl

not like the oilers really decided.

they were going to build around pronger. he took off. the oilers sucked for years and racked up lotto picks and now have a team. Drafting for dummies in the first round for 4 yrs straight

Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:16 AM ET
Wow...The Oilers continue to build a powerhouse (2 years away mind you) and yet the Flames wonder why they continue to finish 9th in the west?? Then they pick an unknown at the draft that they could have taken in the second round. And then over-pay for UFA's and give them NTC... Just adding to the insanity of the number of players that can't be moved. Wow...this reminds me of Oilers management 4 years ago.

But at least we woke up and realized something major had to be done. It's not really Feasters fault. It's the owners not being honest to fans... But he will be the next fall guy for the organization....

- cdninatl

Your wisdom is beyond your years. Glad you are excited about your team, you have some nice looking young talented hockey players. But. Perhaps before you declare a powerhouse you may want to have an above .500 season first. Based on your comments I would assume anything less than 4 wins this year in the BOA will be quite the failure eh?
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