Kevin R
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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JBo/Stajan for Statsny/Hejda
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JBo/Backland for Berglund/Colaiacovo
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And glad talks started with iginla. That would need to be sorted out before any plans of change are made in a big way anyways - numbear
I dont see Colorado trading Statsny, they seem to be adding pieces & look like they are finally ready to spend some money. Berglund & Colaiacovo would be a good start, still would want their 1st rounder in that deal, especially with Backlund in that deal. |
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cdninatl
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Acworth, GA Joined: 12.20.2009
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not like the oilers really decided.
they were going to build around pronger. he took off. the oilers sucked for years and racked up lotto picks and now have a team. Drafting for dummies in the first round for 4 yrs straight - numbear
As apposed to just kinda sucking and not having anything to show for it. At least we'll come out of this with a team to talk of. The Flames still fail to address the failures of their team properly. This is not pre-cap hockey. You can't buy your way into success.
Say what you want of the Oilers...at least we're building a team that will contend for the cup. I just don't see the Flames even making the playoffs....let alone contending. |
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numbear
Calgary Flames |
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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I dont see Colorado trading Statsny, they seem to be adding pieces & look like they are finally ready to spend some money. Berglund & Colaiacovo would be a good start, still would want their 1st rounder in that deal, especially with Backlund in that deal. - Kevin R
maybe if backland was in the statsny deal. Not sure if backland and Landeskog played together in sweden, but that might be a selling point |
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numbear
Calgary Flames |
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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As apposed to just kinda sucking and not having anything to show for it. At least we'll come out of this with a team to talk of. The Flames still fail to address the failures of their team properly. This is not pre-cap hockey. You can't buy your way into success.
Say what you want of the Oilers...at least we're building a team that will contend for the cup. I just don't see the Flames even making the playoffs....let alone contending. - cdninatl
I'm enjoying watching the oilers lately. But I don't get why people are proud of their so called "plan" to build a team by sucking for years.
Anyways. I do look forward to them being a force for a few years. and hope they get one more D and a goalie to make a cup run, before losing players to new contracts.
Flames, still need a first line centre. No idea when that will be addressed. But hopefully it is while iggy is here so we can see what he can do with a real first line |
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I'm not sure why people think trading Iggy & Kipper would be considered blowing up the team. Trading Carter & Richards was pretty dramatic, those were young guys & I dont see people saying Philly blew up their team last year. They had some pretty important pieces. Kipper & Iggy are mid thirties, were elite players & now considered very good players that could be huge pieces for a contending team. If we were to trade these two, we still have some pieces to build around & some talented players to keep things interesting. If Iggy doesnt resign this summer, I think then it will wait until the trade deadline & to roll out the Bourque/ trade analogy to a contender to win a cup. I'm just glad Iggy & Feaster are now discussing potential extensions, it wont take long to see where we stand(if any truth to rumours, who says Feaster doesnt already know Iggy's decision) & what future Iggy wants, he's earned that.
Wonder if Bruins, who seem to be interested in JBO would part with Lucic as part of the deal, put him with Baerschte & Cerevenka on a 2nd line would be a sweet thing. Oshie & Rattie for JBO would be interesting too. Thanks for the blogs Colin. Nice to see Flames have a forum to voice opinions. I like your interaction with posters, takes a great commitment . - Kevin R
This is the message we need to get across to more fans! Its *always* tough to move the "faces" of the franchise, but if you want your team to begin to be better, you need to start retooling with youth and get the biggest return on your older assets.
If they keep me on for the spot, Id love to keep posting 4-5 blogs a week
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As apposed to just kinda sucking and not having anything to show for it. At least we'll come out of this with a team to talk of. The Flames still fail to address the failures of their team properly. This is not pre-cap hockey. You can't buy your way into success.
Say what you want of the Oilers...at least we're building a team that will contend for the cup. I just don't see the Flames even making the playoffs....let alone contending. - cdninatl
Give it some time mister....just like your Oilers, there is a lot of growing pains and struggle before they get good again. Feaster has only just taken over and they now have a new coach...they have made a few tweaks but I expect Feaster to be a little busier with trades to bring in more youth.
Any changes/drafts hes made are still a few years from showing on the team...but to me hes on the right path. |
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I'm enjoying watching the oilers lately. But I don't get why people are proud of their so called "plan" to build a team by sucking for years.
Anyways. I do look forward to them being a force for a few years. and hope they get one more D and a goalie to make a cup run, before losing players to new contracts.
Flames, still need a first line centre. No idea when that will be addressed. But hopefully it is while iggy is here so we can see what he can do with a real first line - numbear
Believe me, I understand your sentiment here....but the team needs a solid retool at the very least. If Iggy wants to stay around thats fine, hell provide solid hockey for another 3-4 years and will retire a Flame.
Only problem is, which needs to be understood, is to make this team better than it currently is, you need a few key pieces, these key pieces cost large assets, which the club dosnt really have nor can afford to lose.
The club can only keep tweaking in FA signings and a few minor trades, but it wont take them from being a bubble playoff team, to a playoff contender...they would need much greater upgrades to do so.
So, at the end of the day...what the club could get out of Kipper/Iginla could keep the team competitive, but allow for upgrades in young assets and allow them to begin enroute to a better built team in another year/two. |
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Believe me, I understand your sentiment here....but the team needs a solid retool at the very least. If Iggy wants to stay around thats fine, hell provide solid hockey for another 3-4 years and will retire a Flame.
Only problem is, which needs to be understood, is to make this team better than it currently is, you need a few key pieces, these key pieces cost large assets, which the club dosnt really have nor can afford to lose.
The club can only keep tweaking in FA signings and a few minor trades, but it wont take them from being a bubble playoff team, to a playoff contender...they would need much greater upgrades to do so.
So, at the end of the day...what the club could get out of Kipper/Iginla could keep the team competitive, but allow for upgrades in young assets and allow them to begin enroute to a better built team in another year/two. - noename09
In the end it's up to Iginla...if he wants to stay and play his entire career with the Flames then I'm fine with that. He has given so much to this franchise, so I would respect his decision. If he wants to go try and win a cup on another team then that's fine too, either way I'm fine with it.
On another note...WOW, those Oiler pigeons sure came in here strong with all of fresh takes on the Flames. Good luck with that powerhouse in 2 years when everyone wants 7 mil per year.
In the end, no matter which team in Alberta is better, I'll always take solace in the fact that Calgary's weather is better and women are hotter.
Enjoy Klondike day's boys!!!
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wolfos412
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Location: Get Real - JDJ Joined: 07.13.2010
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A new blog coming up soon? Maybe do an article on Trading Iggy, Kipper, and other older players that still have value. Lol I know Calgary fans probably don't want to hear it but I think it would be so refreshing starting anew with prospects and a bright future. |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Believe me, I understand your sentiment here....but the team needs a solid retool at the very least. If Iggy wants to stay around thats fine, hell provide solid hockey for another 3-4 years and will retire a Flame.
Only problem is, which needs to be understood, is to make this team better than it currently is, you need a few key pieces, these key pieces cost large assets, which the club dosnt really have nor can afford to lose.
The club can only keep tweaking in FA signings and a few minor trades, but it wont take them from being a bubble playoff team, to a playoff contender...they would need much greater upgrades to do so.
So, at the end of the day...what the club could get out of Kipper/Iginla could keep the team competitive, but allow for upgrades in young assets and allow them to begin enroute to a better built team in another year/two. - noename09
Feaster technically has only been the GM 1 year. He was an interim GM for the 1st 5 months & last summer as the official GM, he had some tough contracts. The type of assets we are hoping Kipper & Iggy can bring in wont be able to instantly lead the team out of darkness. So far we have seen minor trades, salary dumps & some UFA signings. All the moves have been reasonable & have a direction. He's building from the periphery & wants to have some sort of foundation. I think he figures that way the young future stars will develop quicker in such an environment. Oilers now finally have some nice pieces, but they blew things up so bad, it does affect the performances of even their top young players. You can be an Olympic swimmer but if you walk into the Bow river in the June, it will take you under. |
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A new blog coming up soon? Maybe do an article on Trading Iggy, Kipper, and other older players that still have value. Lol I know Calgary fans probably don't want to hear it but I think it would be so refreshing starting anew with prospects and a bright future. - wolfos412
I have no control over this
My goal is to post 4-5 times a week if given the spot tho |
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In the end it's up to Iginla...if he wants to stay and play his entire career with the Flames then I'm fine with that. He has given so much to this franchise, so I would respect his decision. If he wants to go try and win a cup on another team then that's fine too, either way I'm fine with it.
On another note...WOW, those Oiler pigeons sure came in here strong with all of fresh takes on the Flames. Good luck with that powerhouse in 2 years when everyone wants 7 mil per year.
In the end, no matter which team in Alberta is better, I'll always take solace in the fact that Calgary's weather is better and women are hotter.
Enjoy Klondike day's boys!!! - The-Dalai-Lama
100%
It will be tough for Feaster because one, he needs to do whats best for the team, but he also needs to respect Iginlas wishes as hes been a solid guy for the team and city for years. Imo, I just hope Iginla is THAT great of a guy and offers to be moved if Feaster gets an attractive bid. He would go down as one of the greatest.
Let him go for 3-4 years then come back for one year and retire. |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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As apposed to just kinda sucking and not having anything to show for it. At least we'll come out of this with a team to talk of. The Flames still fail to address the failures of their team properly. This is not pre-cap hockey. You can't buy your way into success.
Say what you want of the Oilers...at least we're building a team that will contend for the cup. I just don't see the Flames even making the playoffs....let alone contending. - cdninatl
I suspect the Oilers first need to get rid of their management before they turn into something good. Kevin Lowe has been a disaster and until ownership realizes that, I suspect the Oil will continue to be two years ago. Why don't Oiler fans realize the guy who took them them to the bottom of the league is not the guy to bring them out. Sorry, but I just see the worst managed team in the league with a bunch of good assets that pretty much anyone could do a better job with. |
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Feaster technically has only been the GM 1 year. He was an interim GM for the 1st 5 months & last summer as the official GM, he had some tough contracts. The type of assets we are hoping Kipper & Iggy can bring in wont be able to instantly lead the team out of darkness. So far we have seen minor trades, salary dumps & some UFA signings. All the moves have been reasonable & have a direction. He's building from the periphery & wants to have some sort of foundation. I think he figures that way the young future stars will develop quicker in such an environment. Oilers now finally have some nice pieces, but they blew things up so bad, it does affect the performances of even their top young players. You can be an Olympic swimmer but if you walk into the Bow river in the June, it will take you under. - Kevin R
I completely agree with this. For me, what Feaster is doing is upgrading his supporting cast who will be around for a few solid years...hes letting some go who jsut dont have a place within his plans, and bringing in guys with better hockey sense and experience on winning teams.
I have also discussed the fact that most people cant seem to grasp that Feaster has only been a part of the org. for 2 years....any of the moves/drafts hes made for this club wont really show for atleast another 2 years. We can judge him better by then. For the time being he needs to focus on retooling the team with youth and altho many fans dont want to hear it, he really needs to move Iggy come deadline if they arent 6/7th place or higher.
And frankly, even then...the team needs some big moves to bring in young promising talent, you can even make moves for guys who are young and NHL ready who can help immediately to avoid a "sell vets and tank" path. This is the year, imo, to move the bigger/older assets and get this team in the right direction to compete and be feared in 2-3 years. |
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I suspect the Oilers first need to get rid of their management before they turn into something good. Kevin Lowe has been a disaster and until ownership realizes that, I suspect the Oil will continue to be two years ago. Why don't Oiler fans realize the guy who took them them to the bottom of the league is not the guy to bring them out. Sorry, but I just see the worst managed team in the league with a bunch of good assets that pretty much anyone could do a better job with. - tincup
well, in fairness, with a bad defensive end and a ton of younger talent with no real supporting cast...it can be tough to get them winning a bunch. |
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Where are all my Flames fans!? |
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Where are all my Flames fans!? - noename09
I'm too busy defending my team on the other pages!!!! |
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scoot174
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Oil Tycoon is actually a Flame, AB Joined: 01.29.2007
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I have no control over this
My goal is to post 4-5 times a week if given the spot tho - noename09
That was good month for Vetter, I hope you get the gig, the NW division is going to be pretty exciting this year |
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That was good month for Vetter, I hope you get the gig, the NW division is going to be pretty exciting this year - scoot174
Thanks! And it certainly will be! I would have had a new blog by now but cant make changes unfortunately. |
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I'm too busy defending my team on the other pages!!!! - The-Dalai-Lama
tell them to bring the fight here and ill help out |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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That was good month for Vetter, I hope you get the gig, the NW division is going to be pretty exciting this year - scoot174
OMG! Minny looks awful good next year. Perhaps Nashville may want to look at JBO's availability to appease Weber? |
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I think the door has really swung open for a Bouwmeester deal here given the fact that Suter went to Minny as oppose to some other big markets. These big time teams now looking to fill holes on their back end after failing to court Suter. i.e. Philly, Detroit. I think that the Flames might just get an offer they can't refuse. I'm thinking it might end up being philly. |
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I think the door has really swung open for a Bouwmeester deal here given the fact that Suter went to Minny as oppose to some other big markets. These big time teams now looking to fill holes on their back end after failing to court Suter. i.e. Philly, Detroit. I think that the Flames might just get an offer they can't refuse. I'm thinking it might end up being philly. - The-Dalai-Lama
I sincerely anticipate Jbo being moved in the next week. Feaster must be working the phones, he said he was going to be busy, and Jbo is one of the guys im sure made his shopping list. |
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I sincerely anticipate Jbo being moved in the next week. Feaster must be working the phones, he said he was going to be busy, and Jbo is one of the guys im sure made his shopping list. - noename09
Gotta be...not sure who else it would be???
The names on the phones must inlude JBO, Backlund, Babchuck and that's probably about it lol...
They need a top 3 centerman. Either someone for the first line, which may be tough to get. Or one for the third line (defensive, gritty, faceoff, pest, etc.) |
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Gotta be...not sure who else it would be???
The names on the phones must inlude JBO, Backlund, Babchuck and that's probably about it lol...
They need a top 3 centerman. Either someone for the first line, which may be tough to get. Or one for the third line (defensive, gritty, faceoff, pest, etc.) - The-Dalai-Lama
You would have to assume GMs have been calling a lot about Kipper and Iginla over the last few months.
Also...if there have been offers for either but they had to be declined because neither player would move, I hope for my own sanity I dont find out what some offers were! |
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