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rayzablades2
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miami, FL
Joined: 04.24.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:49 AM ET
Roy was a lot better defensively than you're giving him credit for. He's played big PK minutes here in Buffalo. This past season was out of the ordinary in terms of how he looked defensively, and I think it's all because of the injury and just not being in the right condition because of it. That makes it a lot harder to keep up and play the defensive game you're used to. What some people took as laziness, was more or less he just couldn't do it this year.
- HonkFortheGoose


I buy it.

I never understood what all the Roy hate was for. Yeah, he wasn't great every game, but he's not a "great" player. He did, however, put up a lot of points and wasn't a bad pk-er.

IMO, I think that if it wasn't for those 3 or 4 pictures of him partying, the mood around the Roy trade would be different (or the Roy trade would have never happened).

That said, I do like the Ott trade a lot. I just worry that a big piece of offense has just left the team and is not yet replaced.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:49 AM ET
Carey Price now makes more money than Ryan Miller...

Price's contract is back loaded and will actually make 7M in salary the last 3 years.

Thoughts?

I think Miller is now down to the 4th or 5th highest paid Goalie.

- JVince11

Inflation, and he is probably my Miller comparable, maybe a bit stronger between the ears.
Goobacks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:49 AM ET
Carey Price now makes more money than Ryan Miller...

Price's contract is back loaded and will actually make 7M in salary the last 3 years.

Thoughts?

I think Miller is now down to the 4th or 5th highest paid Goalie.

- JVince11


doesnt change that we aren't getting production for what we are paying.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
Carey Price now makes more money than Ryan Miller...

Price's contract is back loaded and will actually make 7M in salary the last 3 years.

Thoughts?

I think Miller is now down to the 4th or 5th highest paid Goalie.

- JVince11


Wow. What's the cap hit on it?
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
Everyone can stop analysing the trade. This covers every angle:



Edit: at least skip to about the 5:35 mark, if you can't stomach the whole thing
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
Wow. What's the cap hit on it?
- HonkFortheGoose



6.5
rayzablades2
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miami, FL
Joined: 04.24.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
Carey Price now makes more money than Ryan Miller...

Price's contract is back loaded and will actually make 7M in salary the last 3 years.

Thoughts?

I think Miller is now down to the 4th or 5th highest paid Goalie.

- JVince11


Tells me you don't have to do much to get big money as a goalie (*cough* Luongo *cough*). But at least Miller had won a few playoff series before he got his big payday.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
Darcy already said he was not trading Mcnabb or Myers, along with Hodson and Ennis, Foligno
- Dwight K. Schrute


i never heard him say Hodgson?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
Carey Price now makes more money than Ryan Miller...

Price's contract is back loaded and will actually make 7M in salary the last 3 years.

Thoughts?

I think Miller is now down to the 4th or 5th highest paid Goalie.

- JVince11

and 29th in stats?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
Everyone can stop analysing the trade. This covers every angle:


- keptupl8



get him over here
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
doesnt change that we aren't getting production for what we are paying.
- Goobacks


Miller struggled this year because of the concussions. Once he was right, he was fine until Lindy rode him into the ground. He's always been inconsistent, but I'd still rather have him than most other goalies in the league.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
I buy it.

I never understood what all the Roy hate was for. Yeah, he wasn't great every game, but he's not a "great" player. He did, however, put up a lot of points and wasn't a bad pk-er.

IMO, I think that if it wasn't for those 3 or 4 pictures of him partying, the mood around the Roy trade would be different (or the Roy trade would have never happened).

That said, I do like the Ott trade a lot. I just worry that a big piece of offense has just left the team and is not yet replaced.

- rayzablades2

Roy was solid with the stickwork, taking the puck away. I thought he was pretty good defensively. My issue with him was just his compete level and his attitude - and I think it's reflected that we got a guy back who's basically the opposite.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
Wow. What's the cap hit on it?
- HonkFortheGoose


His cap hit is 6.5M for all 6 years but his salary goes..

5.5M, 5.75M, 6.75M, 7M, 7M, and 7M
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
Inflation, and he is probably my Miller comparable, maybe a bit stronger between the ears.
- nfph



Also has been in the NHL for 5yrs now where Miller was just starting to become a starter.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
Miller struggled this year because of the concussions. Once he was right, he was fine until Lindy rode him into the ground. He's always been inconsistent, but I'd still rather have him than most other goalies in the league.
- HonkFortheGoose


that is actually very well written... touche

2nd half of the year he took his GAA from 4.00 to 2.55... it was 1.89 GAA for the last 27 games I think.
J03Y
Buffalo Sabres
Location: we finally got a center that i, NY
Joined: 11.19.2009

Jul 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
i never heard him say Hodgson?
- JVince11


Tyler Ennis and Cody Hodgson head the Sabres’ depth chart in the middle, but they are both only 22 years old and have not faced the pressure of being a No. 1 center.

“We certainly weren’t looking and aren’t going to move Tyler or Cody,” Regier said
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:55 AM ET


get him over here

- homiedclown

5:35 mark...

and I'm not sure he's not here already.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:55 AM ET
Also has been in the NHL for 5yrs now where Miller was just starting to become a starter.
- dadeadhead


Miller is 5th in terms of Cap Hit.. and 6th in terms of Salary of all goalies now.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
Tyler Ennis and Cody Hodgson head the Sabres’ depth chart in the middle, but they are both only 22 years old and have not faced the pressure of being a No. 1 center.

“We certainly weren’t looking and aren’t going to move Tyler or Cody,” Regier said

- J03Y



Am I the only one who think were okay at center? I think we need a star scorer, whether it be center or winger.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
Tyler Ennis and Cody Hodgson head the Sabres’ depth chart in the middle, but they are both only 22 years old and have not faced the pressure of being a No. 1 center.

“We certainly weren’t looking and aren’t going to move Tyler or Cody,” Regier said

- J03Y


good to know...

i agree that I think we need a guy who is more well rounded of a center and has more NHL experience.. but they don't just grow on trees and come in excess.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
Tyler Ennis and Cody Hodgson head the Sabres’ depth chart in the middle, but they are both only 22 years old and have not faced the pressure of being a No. 1 center.

“We certainly weren’t looking and aren’t going to move Tyler or Cody,” Regier said

- J03Y

Enter, Arnott and or Semin.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
Am I the only one who think were okay at center? I think we need a star scorer, whether it be center or winger.
- IceColdBeer


I think Hodgson will grow 10x better by having a full offseason, camp, and preseason with the Sabres... if they are able ot keep him with the same linemates the entire time such as Vanek and Pommer.. then I think..

Hodge could be a 60 pt scorer.. 20/40
Ennis could be a 65 pt scorerr... 25/40

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
5:35 mark...

and I'm not sure he's not here already.

- keptupl8

sounds alot like sabres 89
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET


get him over here

- homiedclown

He and Bushkorn should start a show together.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
Miller is 5th in terms of Cap Hit.. and 6th in terms of Salary of all goalies now.
- JVince11




Meh, he signed that deal 3yrs ago.


In today's market some idiot would give him over 7 per.
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