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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 2:44 PM ET
It's sad that I don't trust what he says. I don't believe it. He's trying to not overpay, he always lies to the media/ public. I hope I'm wrong however.
- stveshdy


He said he was hesitant, not that he wasn't going to do it!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 5 @ 2:44 PM ET
halpern.
- OrangeBlack27


Ben Holmstrom says hi.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 2:46 PM ET
He said he was hesitant, not that he wasn't going to do it!

- MJL


Very true. Lol
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
Is he a better faceoff guy? Then sure Im ok with that, he might be older though, Dom moore is 31 i think
- aosplayo


think halpern is a better fit. like dom moore and he's definitely the better player but he's likely seeking multiple years at 2+ in a top-9 role, while we could get halpern for probably a year at a mil or less. halpern has won 58 and 57% of his draws the last two years. dom was 55 and 53.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
It's sad that I don't trust what he says. I don't believe it. He's trying to not overpay, he always lies to the media/ public. I hope I'm wrong however.
- stveshdy


Eh, I don't consider it lying. Why should he tip his hand about anything he's trying to do?

He shouldn't, of course.

So instead he gives vague and generic answers.

29 other GMs do the same thing.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
He said he was hesitant, not that he wasn't going to do it!

- MJL

everytime he says that stuff I feel like Heath ledger's Joker in Batman doing the "wanna know how I got these scars" bit.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer

I think Gervais is serviceable on 3rd pairing but Flyers now have 9 D competing for 7 spots with only one waiver-exempt player (Gus).






.....we have a trade to announce.....
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
Ben Holmstrom says hi.
- Tomahawk


think he can win 58% of draws and push the puck up ice against quality competition?
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
OK, I am the only one who is perplexed by the Rusty signing? I really liked him as a player for us and the bolts. He basically got the same money as Ponikarovsky, but Ponikarovsky was much better for the Devils last year. And I would have rather them go after K Wellwood or even Arnott for a year vs. Rusty at that price.

Looking at some of the proposed line-ups, I don't know where he fits in. Putting him on the 3rd line with Coots and say Simmonds, Read or E Wellwood really turns Coots more into a true checking line center vs. a Staal type that can score AND shut down teams.

The reason most of us would NOT trade Couturier in a deal for Nash or Ryan is because of the offensive upside, not so he can be John Madden.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
Ben Holmstrom says hi.
- Tomahawk

Hiiiiiiiii Bennnnn!! Tomahawk tell him Matt says hi!
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:49 PM ET
think halpern is a better fit. like dom moore and he's definitely the better player but he's likely seeking multiple years at 2+ in a top-9 role, while we could get halpern for probably a year at a mil or less. halpern has won 58 and 57% of his draws the last two years. dom was 55 and 53.
- OrangeBlack27




sounds good to me, you're right moore would be looking multi year for sure.

I like the gervais being cheap and Fedo 1 year. Theyre setting up to be real players next year UFA. If they could outbid everyone this year for the top prizes with this current cap situation, Id imagine theyd go all out next year when theres more talented players available.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 2:50 PM ET
Eh, I don't consider it lying. Why should he tip his hand about anything he's trying to do?

He shouldn't, of course.

So instead he gives vague and generic answers.

29 other GMs do the same thing.

- Scoob


Exactly but you know what I mean, right?
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
OK, I am the only one who is perplexed by the Rusty signing? I really liked him as a player for us and the bolts. He basically got the same money as Ponikarovsky, but Ponikarovsky was much better for the Devils last year. And I would have rather them go after K Wellwood or even Arnott for a year vs. Rusty at that price.

Looking at some of the proposed line-ups, I don't know where he fits in. Putting him on the 3rd line with Coots and say Simmonds, Read or E Wellwood really turns Coots more into a true checking line center vs. a Staal type that can score AND shut down teams.

The reason most of us would NOT trade Couturier in a deal for Nash or Ryan is because of the offensive upside, not so he can be John Madden.

- TheGreat28


I would have preferred Brunette, Welwood, possibly Knuble for that $
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
Is Gervais better than Lilja?
That signing is hard to understand.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
Is Gervais better than Lilja?
That signing is hard to understand.

- Marc D


absolutely, imo.

at the very least, he's much better handling the puck.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:52 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer

I think Gervais is serviceable on 3rd pairing but Flyers now have 9 D competing for 7 spots with only one waiver-exempt player (Gus).






.....we have a trade to announce.....

- aosplayo


Bourdon should start talking to his agent...real estate agent that is. Between he and Gusty I'd rather part with MAB.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 2:52 PM ET
absolutely, imo.

at the very least, he's much better handling the puck.

- OrangeBlack27


can't wait to see who they sign next year to a 2-year deal as an upgrade to Gervais.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
Is Gervais better than Lilja?
That signing is hard to understand.

- Marc D


Is he better than Manning or Gus is the ?
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
I would have preferred Brunette, Welwood, possibly Knuble for that $
- Bayareaflyer


Good call about Brunette. Forgot about him. Knuble and Rusty are sentimental choices, but I think the ship has sailed on Knuble for this team. Same on Rusty.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
Is he better than Manning or Gus is the ?
- Bayareaflyer


manning and gus are both waiver exempt
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 2:55 PM ET
can't wait to see who they sign next year to a 2-year deal as an upgrade to Gervais.
- bradleyc4


lol

komisarek?
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 5 @ 2:55 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer

I think Gervais is serviceable on 3rd pairing but Flyers now have 9 D competing for 7 spots with only one waiver-exempt player (Gus).






.....we have a trade to announce.....

- aosplayo


thats what i'm thinkin................maybe mesz voracek and a 1st for ryan?
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
manning and gus are both waiver exempt
- FlyerMike18[/quote

Ok - but we can't we still allow them to play to see what they can offer?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 2:57 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer

I think Gervais is serviceable on 3rd pairing but Flyers now have 9 D competing for 7 spots with only one waiver-exempt player (Gus).






.....we have a trade to announce.....

- aosplayo

Maybe Homer is just preparing for the inevitable....

Devastating injuries to the blue line
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
Maybe Homer is just preparing for the inevitable....

Devastating injuries to the blue line

- Giroux_Is_God


that is what he's doing. aka depth.
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