History. Everyone is assuming that no offers for Semin is due to perceived character issues. Possibly a good assumption, who knows.

So if he's not getting good offers now, and he bombs with whatever team signs him, it's likely that no one will rush to trade for him.

And where do all miserable Russian players who feel under-appreciated, under paid, or un-loved go...

To the K.

Radulov, Zherdev, etc etc.
- TheGreat28

No way the flyers should be icing a lineup with Briere and Semin. Semin will flop here it woul be an awful move

Last 4 years Suter v. Weber (I'm bored at work)

Weber - 74 goals 119 assists - 193 points +29 = 319 games out of 328

Suter - 22 goals 145 assists - 167 points +23 = 313 games out of 328

Point is -- if Suter is getting 7.5.......what do you think Weber is going to get?

**numbers were actually closer than I thought.

No way the flyers should be icing a lineup with Briere and Semin. Semin will flop here it woul be an awful move
- Just5

Not that I dont agree but sometimes a change of environment is needed. It's a risk no doubt but he could put up some nice numbers next to Giroux. Flyers should explore other options first though.

Just because a handful of players did one thing doesn't mean every Russian player will. If that was the case why didn't he do it already.
- JoeRussomanno

Put it this way. The KHL is a place for players who are basically out of NHL options for whatever reason. End of their career. Unfulfilled potential. Perceived bad egg.

I personally don't think Semin is in the same category with Zherdev, Kostitsyn, Radulov etc., which is why I'd give him a chance.

BUT...IF that perception of him is there among front office types, then he likely has one final chance to prove them wrong.

Freakin Ruslan


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/...iqyYhh-Rbuo/s400/fedo.jpg
- aosplayo

He'll take some heat for that in the locker room. Three is a charm though!

Put it this way. The KHL is a place for players who are basically out of NHL options for whatever reason. End of their career. Unfulfilled potential. Perceived bad egg.

I personally don't think Semin is in the same category with Zherdev, Kostitsyn, Radulov etc., which is why I'd give him a chance.

BUT...IF that perception of him is there among front office types, then he likely has one final chance to prove them wrong.
- TheGreat28

I'm still not seeing how he would up and leave in the middle of a multi-year/million dollar contract.

Put it this way. The KHL is a place for players who are basically out of NHL options for whatever reason. End of their career. Unfulfilled potential. Perceived bad egg.

I personally don't think Semin is in the same category with Zherdev, Kostitsyn, Radulov etc., which is why I'd give him a chance.

BUT...IF that perception of him is there among front office types, then he likely has one final chance to prove them wrong.
- TheGreat28

I wouldn't mind it if the deal was short term and the Flyers explored all options but couldn't agree with others.

Personally, I kinda like this...

Semin - G - Schenn
Hartsy - Briere - Vorachek
Simmonds - Couturier - Read
Rusty - Talbot - Wellwood/Rinaldo

Are there sober ones?
- FlyersFirst

The one that lives next door to me prefers :

Personally, I kinda like this...

Semin - G - Schenn
Hartsy - Briere - Vorachek
Simmonds - Couturier - Read
Rusty - Talbot - Wellwood/Rinaldo
- TheGreat28

Just....please....stop it.

Semin would be an indescribably awful move.

The one that lives next door to me prefers :


- Lexington Flyer

they have an awesome gardiner

Sarah Baicker ‏@sbaickerCSN

Holmgren on re-signing Voracek: "That's a process right now and we're going through it. Jakub will be signed at some point."

I'm still not seeing how he would up and leave in the middle of a multi-year/million dollar contract.
- JoeRussomanno

Radulov did.

I think the money is generally there in the K for top players. So if their ice time is cut, players riding them, etc., and their generally miserable, the Khl becomes an option.

Maybe I'm wrong on it, who knows.

But to me most of the trade options that are feasible, meaning other team might do, really seem to weaken us both short and long term.

I just don't believe we're getting Ryan or Nash for a package of Read, Gus, MAB and a first. It will be at least 2 major roster players and 1 to 2 1st round picks.

Sarah Baicker ‏@sbaickerCSN

Holmgren on re-signing Voracek: "That's a process right now and we're going through it. Jakub will be signed at some point."


- Marc D

By the Flyers? Matt Carle is skeptical...

Radulov did.

I think the money is generally there in the K for top players. So if their ice time is cut, players riding them, etc., and their generally miserable, the Khl becomes an option.

Maybe I'm wrong on it, who knows.

But to me most of the trade options that are feasible, meaning other team might do, really seem to weaken us both short and long term.

I just don't believe we're getting Ryan or Nash for a package of Read, Gus, MAB and a first. It will be at least 2 major roster players and 1 to 2 1st round picks.
- TheGreat28

Dude we got rusty back, the cup is ours.

By the Flyers? Matt Carle is skeptical...


- BringBack25

They better just get off their @ss and get it done. If they lose him then we're heading into disasterville.

Radulov did.

I think the money is generally there in the K for top players. So if their ice time is cut, players riding them, etc., and their generally miserable, the Khl becomes an option.

Maybe I'm wrong on it, who knows.

But to me most of the trade options that are feasible, meaning other team might do, really seem to weaken us both short and long term.

I just don't believe we're getting Ryan or Nash for a package of Read, Gus, MAB and a first. It will be at least 2 major roster players and 1 to 2 1st round picks.
- TheGreat28

Again just because a handful of guys with the same ethnicity did something doesn't mean they all will.

They better just get off their @ss and get it done. If they lose him then we're heading into disasterville.
- JoeRussomanno

and how, exactly, would they lose a RFA?

By the Flyers? Matt Carle is skeptical...


- BringBack25

Homer said they tried to re-sign him but he decided to go elsewhere. I'm guessing the 6 years was the hold up? Not really sure though.

Just....please....stop it.

Semin would be an indescribably awful move.
- Giroux_Is_God

So would trading Couturier / Vorachek, Read, Coburn or Mesz / Cousins or Laughton / and a 1st for Ryan or Nash.

Personally, I think they weaken the team even doing Vorachek, Mes or Read and a pick for Ryan. At that point either you're a two line team or have a worse D than we had 2 years ago, when everyone said we had to upgrade the D.

and how, exactly, would they lose a RFA?
- OrangeBlack27

Id hate to see a guy we traded one of our former franchise players for, up and leave after two years to go on and be successful somewhere else.

Dude we got rusty back, the cup is ours.
- funmaster18

Haha...you missed my post saying as much as I liked Rusty I don't get it.

Right now I'm not very happy with the offseason. Seems like random patchwork so far other than the JVR trade. I'm willing to be patient, but so far I'm underwhelmed.

So would trading Couturier / Vorachek, Read, Coburn or Mesz / Cousins or Laughton / and a 1st for Ryan or Nash.

Personally, I think they weaken the team even doing Vorachek, Mes or Read and a pick for Ryan. At that point either you're a two line team or have a worse D than we had 2 years ago, when everyone said we had to upgrade the D.
- TheGreat28

By the Flyers? Matt Carle is skeptical...


- BringBack25

Guess which one of them has a future with the Flyers?



That's right, its Carle. They will re acquire him from Tampa again!