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Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
Sarah Baicker ‏@sbaickerCSN

Holmgren on re-signing Voracek: "That's a process right now and we're going through it. Jakub will be signed at some point."


- Marc D


haha by who or when is another question
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
They better just get off their @ss and get it done. If they lose him then we're heading into disasterville.
- JoeRussomanno


omg they cant loose him lol
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Jul 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
they have an awesome gardiner
- JoeRussomanno


Not sure about that I can't say I've worked with that...uh...variety, but as a soil scientist I can say that those plants look spindly and need some nitrogen.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Right now I'm very happy with the offseason. Seems like random patchwork so far other than the JVR trade. I'm willing to be patient, but so far I'm underwhelmed.
- funmaster18

are you underwhelmed or very happy?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Id hate to see a guy we traded one of our former franchise players for, up and leave after two years to go on and be successful somewhere else.
- JoeRussomanno


I'd say lets worry about that in two years. Not really my concern right now. I'm fine with a one or two year deal for now.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
omg they cant loose him lol
- Philly1980

he's a better player than you're giving him credit for.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 3:51 PM ET
Again just because a handful of guys with the same ethnicity did something doesn't mean they all will.
- JoeRussomanno


Not saying they all will. Not all Russian players are bad guys in the locker room. But the ones who are bad in the locker room seem to end up there. So the question is...is Semin really a cancer or not?

By the way, if Kostitsyn's brother wasn't playing in North America, he would be the next KHL signing. Still might be.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 5 @ 3:51 PM ET
are you underwhelmed or very happy?
- Marc D


meant not very happy
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 3:51 PM ET
are you underwhelmed or very happy?
- Marc D[/quote
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:51 PM ET
Not sure about that I can't say I've worked with that...uh...variety, but as a soil scientist I can say that those plants look spindly and need some nitrogen.
- Lexington Flyer

Had a real natural and exotic but sensible look
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 3:52 PM ET
meant not very happy
- funmaster18


I completely agree.

And by the way, just got your Rusty comment as sarcasm. Everyone is so thrilled with getting him back I thought was the only one that's scratching his head.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:52 PM ET
he's a better player than you're giving him credit for.
- JoeRussomanno


he is....but i think ryan > voracek. if voracek has found his shot then he would be deadly.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 3:52 PM ET
I completely agree.

And by the way, just got your Rusty comment as sarcasm. Everyone is so thrilled with getting him back I thought was the only one that's scratching his head.

- TheGreat28

he'll score 30 with giroux
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 5 @ 3:53 PM ET
meant not very happy
- funmaster18

I'm underwhelmed by the deals, but also very happy that they didn't over pay going after the bright shiny UFA
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
he is....but i think ryan > voracek. if voracek has found his shot then he would be deadly.
- Philly1980

Ryan's a better finisher right now, that's about it and not really saying much.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
Id hate to see a guy we traded one of our former franchise players for, up and leave after two years to go on and be successful somewhere else.
- JoeRussomanno


as of the current CBA, he's under team control until 2015. doubt someone poaches him via offer sheet.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
he'll score 30 with giroux
- Crimsoninja


had a chance to play with Crosby; chose Giroux and the Flyers instead.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:56 PM ET
as of the current CBA, he's under team control until 2015. doubt someone poaches him via offer sheet.
- OrangeBlack27

I didn't realize it was that long. K fine not worried then
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jul 5 @ 3:58 PM ET
he'll score 30 with giroux
- Crimsoninja


Hearing that Howson insisted on Fedotenko as the centerpiece of any deal for Nash with the NYR. Clearly we have only acquired him to strengthen our chances of landing Nash.

Dominoes....
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 3:59 PM ET
he is....but i think ryan > voracek. if voracek has found his shot then he would be deadly.
- Philly1980


I do agree that Ryan is a little better than Jake. But when comparing them I think it's more important to view them as two different types of players that bring different things. Vorachek is very good at creating offense by holding onto the puck, using his speed, etc. Teams absolutely need that skill as much as they need a sniper.

Even though we need a sniper for G as well, I think Jake is probably the best playmaker on the team after G. So giving him up could hurt as much as help. Then adding in the plus in the deal could tip it against us.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:59 PM ET
Hearing that Howson insisted on Fedotenko as the centerpiece of any deal for Nash with the NYR. Clearly we have only acquired him to strengthen our chances of landing Nash.

Dominoes....

- BringBack25

more to come....
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jul 5 @ 3:59 PM ET
as of the current CBA, he's under team control until 2015. doubt someone poaches him via offer sheet.
- OrangeBlack27


I know. Was just messing around. Apparently my sarcasm was not as apparent as I thought. Sigh...
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 5 @ 3:59 PM ET
I'm underwhelmed by the deals, but also very happy that they didn't over pay going after the bright shiny UFA
- Marc D


I agree on both points.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:00 PM ET
I do agree that Ryan is a little better than Jake. But when comparing them I think it's more important to view them as two different types of players that bring different things. Vorachek is very good at creating offense by holding onto the puck, using his speed, etc. Teams absolutely need that skill as much as they need a sniper.

Even though we need a sniper for G as well, I think Jake is probably the best playmaker on the team after G. So giving him up could hurt as much as help. Then adding in the plus in the deal could tip it against us.

- TheGreat28

Maybe G needs a playmaker on his wing as he's not such a bad sniper himself
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:02 PM ET
Personally, I kinda like this...

Semin - G - Schenn
Hartsy - Briere - Vorachek
Simmonds - Couturier - Read
Rusty - Talbot - Wellwood/Rinaldo

- TheGreat28


I like it -- do the flyers have any interest in Semin??
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