Wasn't that one of the many accolades that was bestowed upon Jagr this year? Maturing Voracek into a similar mode of himself?

I like the Fedotenko move today. He's versatile and comes up big in the clutch. I could see him having a Talbot like season next year.
- bgratch

Thats how I took it with Jagr and Jake, yes.

I like the Fedotenko move too, adds good depth to our bottom six.

edit: also adding Rusty is a nice step toward addressing that team defense problem.

Is Gervais better than Lilja?
That signing is hard to understand.
- Marc D

Probably is in some areas, such as mobility. But I agree, not quite sure about that one either. We'll see what the plan is.

i like both signings but i suspect they were both used to create flexibility to trade for either bobby ryan or rick nash

Giroux is only making 2.75 Mil??

Giroux is only making 2.75 Mil??
- pharcyde

3.5 this year 5 next year

I think either Voracek or Read, or both, are gone.

I think one D-man may be gone.

I think Ryan is the target.

I like it -- do the flyers have any interest in Semin??
- flyersfan51

You like anything that has to do with getting a "big name" free agent.

Jake, Read, MAB, and a 1st for Ryan

Sign Doan for 5.5 per year

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)

Shane Doan ($5.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)

Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)

Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.719m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m)

Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)

Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)

Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)

Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,396,194; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,803,806

Jake, Read, MAB, and a 1st for Ryan


- Jimmygrazz

Way, way too much for Ryan. That's crazy.

Jake, Read, MAB, and a 1st for Ryan

Sign Doan for 5.5 per year

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)

Shane Doan ($5.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)

Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)

Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.719m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m)

Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)

Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)

Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)

Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,396,194; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,803,806
- Jimmygrazz

Nah....5.5

Way, way too much for Ryan. That's crazy.
- MJL

Just like you may have to overpay for a FA you are going to have to overpay for him. If you can get Doan though, I don't feel like it is an overpayment.

Jake, Read, MAB, and a 1st for Ryan

Sign Doan for 5.5 per year

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)

Shane Doan ($5.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)

Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)

Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.719m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m)

Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)

Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)

Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)

Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,396,194; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,803,806
- Jimmygrazz

to summarize... get older and more expensive with fewer draft picks fast. got it!

Just like you may have to overpay for a FA you are going to have to overpay for him. If you can get Doan though, I don't feel like it is an overpayment.
- Jimmygrazz

why overpay for something you don't need?

Way, way too much for Ryan. That's crazy.
- MJL

I think not signing Carle was crazy. Only guy on the team that can pass behind the blue line.

So crazy may be the trend.

While it may be too much, I think those pieces are close to getting shipped out.

Maybe Jake. Maybe Read.

We'll see.

why overpay for something you don't need?
- JoeRussomanno

Yea, you don't need a 40 goal scorer....

Just like you may have to overpay for a FA you are going to have to overpay for him. If you can get Doan though, I don't feel like it is an overpayment.
- Jimmygrazz

There's a difference between overpaying and committing suicide as a GM. That deal is way past over payment.

I think not signing Carle was crazy. Only guy on the team that can pass behind the blue line.

So crazy may be the trend.

While it may be too much, I think those pieces are close to getting shipped out.

Maybe Jake. Maybe Read.

We'll see.
- Daman

I'd be happy to have a serious conversation about the Carle move. I wouldn't put any thing past the Flyers at this point. And I have no doubt that the Flyers are going to try and make some other moves.

Yea, you don't need a 40 goal scorer....
- Jimmygrazz

when was this accomplished by said player? Also it ain't much good if he's "cutting corners" defensively allowing a considerable amount going back the other way.

I think everyone here would like Doan, myself included, for 2 - 3 years.

Problem is, it doesn't seem likely. Just like Parise and Suter didn't seem likely.
For all the crap I got on here about Parise and Suter not signing for $$$, it turns out to be dead on right.

The word on here is Doan will stay in Phoenix if there are no franchise issues. I tend to believe that. Hope I'm wrong.

Someone mentioned about Pronger coming back. I don't think he would have moved if that was the case. I guess an interesting story would be if he came back the following year. Again, not likely IMO but who knows. A lot can happen.

I think everyone here would like Doan, myself included, for 2 - 3 years.

Problem is, it doesn't seem likely. Just like Parise and Suter didn't seem likely.
For all the crap I got on here about Parise and Suter not signing for $$$, it turns out to be dead on right.

The word on here is Doan will stay in Phoenix if there are no franchise issues. I tend to believe that. Hope I'm wrong.

Someone mentioned about Pronger coming back. I don't think he would have moved if that was the case. I guess an interesting story would be if he came back the following year. Again, not likely IMO but who knows. A lot can happen.
- Daman

They both signed deals for $ 98 Million. They didn't sign for money?

There's a difference between overpaying and committing suicide as a GM. That deal is way past over payment.
- MJL

Or you could look at it like..

Jake, Read, MAB and a 1st for Doan and Ryan....Def not an overpayment. But I do see your point.

I'd be happy to have a serious conversation about the Carle move. I wouldn't put any thing past the Flyers at this point. And I have no doubt that the Flyers are going to try and make some other moves.
- MJL

No use debating the past. He's gone. You may not like it, I may not like it, but Carle is gone.

In 7 out of 10 matchups, I still think the other team is more concerned about matching up against us than vice-versa.

Part of what I am anticipating is that the Flyers accept less offensive depth and use what I will call more of a checking line - Tablot Coots and Rusty.

I think Schenn will be on the wing this year and hopefully show what he did in the playoffs. I think he has an attitude that I like but can't wait to see more.

Simmonds may be starring in the sequel to the 1980 movie - my Bodyguard. Protecting Briere.

Harts G and Ryan doing the damage.

Time will tell.

I think Weber is going to just wanna leave......Lets oblige the man

They both signed deals for $ 98 Million. They didn't sign for money?
- MJL

Yes, they signed for money. They didn't sign for 98 million shoes, or socks.

Great point.

Or you could look at it like..

Jake, Read, MAB and a 1st for Doan and Ryan....Def not an overpayment. But I do see your point.
- Jimmygrazz

You could look at it that way, but that would be an incorrect way to look at it, in my opinion. Doan is a UFA and has nothing to do with the proposed Ryan deal.

Voracek, MAB, and a 1st, is overpaying for Ryan. Throwing in Read, would be pure stupidity. Ryan isn't close to being that good of a player.