Yea next years draft is loaded with a few franchise changers at the top
- griouxmvp2012

franchangers

franchangers
- Crimsoninja

Lol

Carle can walk at that price but not happy with Gervais or Fedotenko signings. As long a Fedotenko is destined for bottom six maybe okay and Gervais a #7 I am okay. We still need to sign either Doan or Semin for Giroux. Semin could score 40+ playing with Roo. I am not convinced Jake93 is up to sniping on Roo's rw. He is a fixture on the pp at the point but Semin is a true sniper and game changer if motivated. Big if maybe??
- flyerdude17

Fedotenko is a very good signing. He is a warrior in the mold of Talbot. Just a bit more size. I really like the signing. I would've had him on my radar but I assumed the guy was like 37-38. Hes 33! Very good for our bottom 6 and the young players

I disagree that they are dealing from a position of weakness. Supply and demand. At this point Nash, Ryan, Doan are the desired targets. Doan is likely staying in Phoenix, but even if he leaves, only one team gets him. Detroit, Flyers, Rangers, Penguins, Sharks, Leafs, and a number of others are all very interested in the three. Those are all bold teams. Someone will blink. Then a rival will blink. And blinking means overpaying.
- TheGreat28

He's forcing their hand by staging a "set me free" campaign through the media, it puts the onus on them to deal him. Teams know that and can sit back. As for desired targets, I can't see how that albatross of a contract Nash has is so desirable to many teams.

Gervais and Fedotenko, watch out Crosby and Malkin!

I think they should take a run at semin sign him to a one year deal hes really talented some people even say he has more talent then ovie I say take a shot if it don't work out you can always trade him at the deadline

Even that i say no too, besides it's been mentioned the ducks want a 2nd line center. No thank you.
- ob18

What?! You gotta do that deal knowing the flyers 2nd round history

Fedotenko is a very good signing. He is a warrior in the mold of Talbot. Just a bit more size. I really like the signing. I would've had him on my radar but I assumed the guy was like 37-38. Hes 33! Very good for our bottom 6 and the young players
- Just5

Funny. I totally thought the same thing. He has been around a while, but still young. I am very happy to have YOUNG Rusty back.

What exactly does Fedotenko bring to the table at this point in his career? Is he defensively responsible?

Gervais and Fedotenko, watch out Crosby and Malkin!

- wingz4life

Gervy might crack the top 4 on the wingz

Gervais and Fedotenko, watch out Crosby and Malkin!

- wingz4life

Who did the Wings sign? Jordin Tootoo?

Gervais and Fedotenko, watch out Crosby and Malkin!

- wingz4life

It's better than Crosby Malkin suter parise lettang fleury neal.......

What exactly does Fedotenko bring to the table at this point in his career? Is he defensively responsible?
- Flyers2821

Think Talbot but a little bigger, maybe less offensive touch

Gervais and Fedotenko, watch out Crosby and Malkin!

- wingz4life

Dude, Malkenstein was man handled by a 19 year old kid. And G matched up just fine against Cindy. Pitts lost Staal and more. I am fine with Rusty coming aboard. You are just bitter because you missed out on S and P up there in Motown

What exactly does Fedotenko bring to the table at this point in his career? Is he defensively responsible?
- Flyers2821

U,mm he's 33 and basically you set and forget don't have to worry about a hole in your lineup

What?! You gotta do that deal knowing the flyers 2nd round history
- Just5

In their defense they usually don't have those

Think Talbot but a little bigger, maybe less offensive touch
- Just5

So he is pretty good defensively then?

I would assume he will be playing on Couturier's wing?

Guessing the lineup shakes out something like this? Girroux still needing a winger... looks like it will end up being Voracek?

Hartnell-Giroux-_________
Simmonds-Briere-Schenn
Read-Couturier-Fedotenko
Wellwood-Talbot-Rinaldo
Schelley

Coburn-Grossman
Timonen-Schenn
Meszaros-Gervais
Lilja

Bryzgalov
Leighton

Do we kick the tires on Semin?

wish some of these offers didnt include voppa
- Crimsoninja

I'll make no qualms about it. I don't hate Vorcacek, but I think the board is a bit high on the kid.

1.) Contract negotiations have been a bit "rough" for 2 straight years now, so that quickly jumps out at me. Not that he has an inflated ego or anything like that; simply the fact that he thinks he's worth more than what the organization does.

2.) He's shown a tendency to try and do too much with the puck. That's not a deal-breaker, but I've noticed it a few times on the power-play, which is the last place a player should be dancing with the puck (think Briere skating into the zone and trying to deke past 4 players while alone).

3.) People raved about the work ethic, but I can recall a few plays where he was gingerly skating back during a back-check.

None of this means that I want him gone for the first available trade prospect. But if he can be considered a "major" piece in a trade for someone like Ryan, I would be glad to put him in there. If you can trade him while still holding onto Read; it's a win in my book.

There's a new buzzword here on Hockeybuzz, and it's apropos for the silly season. It's overpaying. Here's the deal as I see it, about overpaying. When you have a need of adding a upper level player at a position, such as scoring line Winger, puck moving offensive defenseman, or a #1 Goalie. You will likely overpay for it. Whether it's now, in Free Agency, during the rest of the Summer. Or at the trade deadline. There are exceptions of course, as there always is. But the overwhelming majority of the time, teams will overpay to fill top needs. Always have, always will. Lot's of posters are talking about how it's good that the Flyers might go into the Season with available space for the deadline. So they're glad that the Flyers didn't "overpay". And I agree with that. But here's the deal most likely. They're just delaying the overpaying a little while. Who knows how far off. Sure you can add a player like a Groassmann for less then a first round pick or a mid level prospect. but if you really want the top players, regardless of position, to fill an obvious need. They you will likely have to overpay. So the question becomes what are you willing to overpay for, and how much are you willing to overpay. Every team does it at some point. So get ready for the Flyers to again, overpay at some point.

im with you here bro
really wanna see jake develop
- Crimsoninja

Ditto. He has alot of upside and I assume that we will get a good deal on our impending signing/extension of him. He just needs to be able to finish.

What?! You gotta do that deal knowing the flyers 2nd round history
- Just5

I don't, i keep it

I'll make no qualms about it. I don't hate Vorcacek, but I think the board is a bit high on the kid.

1.) Contract negotiations have been a bit "rough" for 2 straight years now, so that quickly jumps out at me. Not that he has an inflated ego or anything like that; simply the fact that he thinks he's worth more than what the organization does.

2.) He's shown a tendency to try and do too much with the puck. That's not a deal-breaker, but I've noticed it a few times on the power-play, which is the last place a player should be dancing with the puck (think Briere skating into the zone and trying to deke past 4 players while alone).

3.) People raved about the work ethic, but I can recall a few plays where he was gingerly skating back during a back-check.

None of this means that I want him gone for the first available trade prospect. But if he can be considered a "major" piece in a trade for someone like Ryan, I would be glad to put him in there. If you can trade him while still holding onto Read; it's a win in my book.
- steelydan

point #2 is indeed noticeable. perhaps just his youth showing.. but also sometimes its like no one on the PP wants to take charge and get it into the zone so Voracek seems to just be like "ok ill just skate it in"

but ya i can see how you think some (myself included) might be overvaluing him a bit

There's a new buzzword here on Hockeybuzz, and it's apropos for the silly season. It's overpaying. Here's the deal as I see it, about overpaying. When you have a need of adding a upper level player at a position, such as scoring line Winger, puck moving offensive defenseman, or a #1 Goalie. You will likely overpay for it. Whether it's now, in Free Agency, during the rest of the Summer. Or at the trade deadline. There are exceptions of course, as there always is. But the overwhelming majority of the time, teams will overpay to fill top needs. Always have, always will. Lot's of posters are talking about how it's good that the Flyers might go into the Season with available space for the deadline. So they're glad that the Flyers didn't "overpay". And I agree with that. But here's the deal most likely. They're just delaying the overpaying a little while. Who knows how far off. Sure you can add a player like a Groassmann for less then a first round pick or a mid level prospect. but if you really want the top players, regardless of position, to fill an obvious need. They you will likely have to overpay. So the question becomes what are you willing to overpay for, and how much are you willing to overpay. Every team does it at some point. So get ready for the Flyers to again, overpay at some point.
- MJL

So wat ya think they overpay for next?

I'll make no qualms about it. I don't hate Vorcacek, but I think the board is a bit high on the kid.

1.) Contract negotiations have been a bit "rough" for 2 straight years now, so that quickly jumps out at me. Not that he has an inflated ego or anything like that; simply the fact that he thinks he's worth more than what the organization does.

2.) He's shown a tendency to try and do too much with the puck. That's not a deal-breaker, but I've noticed it a few times on the power-play, which is the last place a player should be dancing with the puck (think Briere skating into the zone and trying to deke past 4 players while alone).

3.) People raved about the work ethic, but I can recall a few plays where he was gingerly skating back during a back-check.

None of this means that I want him gone for the first available trade prospect. But if he can be considered a "major" piece in a trade for someone like Ryan, I would be glad to put him in there. If you can trade him while still holding onto Read; it's a win in my book.
- steelydan

I thought Voracek was a key to the Flyers PP, with his ability to carry the puck, establish it in the offensive zone, and funnel the puck to the right area for the Flyers to get into their set. Sure he wasn't perfect and forced some plays. But every player does that, including Giroux. It's an 82 game Season, you can find a few plays for every player who gingerly skated back during a back check during the Season. I saw no signs of a work ethic issue with Voracek.

Has there been any word at all on Voracek? When do RFA need to be signed by?