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FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:23 PM ET
I'll put it this way.

We would all have killed for a chance to get a young Pronger.

You have that opportunity possibly now, or next season. Except this time his name is Weber. As good as Cooties and Schenn may/will become you imo make that trade. Even if it takes both of them.

I would make that trade even more so because after Kimmo retires the Flyers have nothing close to a real #1 d-man. Or a powerplay QB. Weber will win a Conn Smythe one day. He should do so on the Flyers.

- flyer_nutter


I'd do this deal for Weber:

Couturier, Meszaros, Cousins, and two 1sts

For
Weber

It may be a lot , but Weber is a player you give up a lot to acquire. Only untouchables on a Weber to Philly deal (at least for me) is Giroux and Brayden Schenn
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:24 PM ET
Again, why trade for Weber when Suter just got 100 million? He. Is. Going. To. Test. The. Market. Don't sell the farm When you don't have to.
- hereticpride


Nashville will not let him get to the market. They can't afford to do it. Whether its this summer or the trade deadline. I dont think Weber will string them along letting them think they have a chance.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 7:24 PM ET
OK I make basically any trade for Weber that doesnt include Coots or Giroux....I love Coots man
- Just5

Would you do both schenns Jake and 2 firsts? Probably what it would take. Maybe a d prospect too
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
Again, why trade for Weber when Suter just got 100 million? He. Is. Going. To. Test. The. Market. Don't sell the farm When you don't have to.
- hereticpride


And the Flyers made an offer to Suter? Did they get him?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:27 PM ET
IMO the Flyers will make a strong push for Ryan.

In fact, I will make a bet with anyone here that it will happen (non-monetary, but a HB bet).

Any takers?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:27 PM ET
OK I make basically any trade for Weber that doesnt include Coots or Giroux....I love Coots man
- Just5


I do too. He has shown great ability. He was matched up against the best players, and did well.

If it ever came down to a time where Nashville was looking to deal Weber's rights. Every team in the league would put in an offer. An offer that has Cooties might just jump to the top.

After what happened with Suter this season I think Nashville will try to know if Weber plans to test the market. They will try to get something for him and rightfully so.

He could go Hamhuis and not sign with the team that trades for his rights. Or he could go the way of Kimmo/Hartnell/Bryzgalov and sign with Philly. You would hope Nashville would allow the Flyers to talk to him before and basically have a contract printed and ready.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:27 PM ET
Would you do both schenns Jake and 2 firsts? Probably what it would take. Maybe a d prospect too
- Deasr1


Nashvilles gotta throw in a winger...even if it's just for depth. Yeah I do it.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 7:27 PM ET
We're flyers fans were not gonna be happy till we have a cup again
- Philly1980


Unless they go 16-0 doing it there will be complaining.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
IMO the Flyers will make a strong push for Ryan.

In fact, I will make a bet with anyone here that it will happen (non-monetary, but a HB bet).

Any takers?

- Daman

I got you
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
I do too. He has shown great ability. He was matched up against the best players, and did well.

If it ever came down to a time where Nashville was looking to deal Weber's rights. Every team in the league would put in an offer. An offer that has Cooties might just jump to the top.

After what happened with Suter this season I think Nashville will try to know if Weber plans to test the market. They will try to get something for him and rightfully so.

He could go Hamhuis and not sign with the team that trades for his rights. Or he could go the way of Kimmo/Hartnell/Bryzgalov and sign with Philly. You would hope Nashville would allow the Flyers to talk to him before and basically have a contract printed and ready.

- flyer_nutter


They should shop him now, the longer they wait the smaller the package
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
IMO the Flyers will make a strong push for Ryan.

In fact, I will make a bet with anyone here that it will happen (non-monetary, but a HB bet).

Any takers?

- Daman


Yes.

I will bet my pride, dignity and respect. I have none here to begin with.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:30 PM ET
Unless they go 16-0 doing it there will be complaining.
- Scoob


no. just a cup. its been long enough
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:30 PM ET
IMO the Flyers will make a strong push for Ryan.

In fact, I will make a bet with anyone here that it will happen (non-monetary, but a HB bet).

Any takers?

- Daman


I think it will be close, but it all depends on the package, and how serious the Ducks are
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 7:31 PM ET
Yes.

I will bet my pride, dignity and respect. I have none here to begin with.

- flyer_nutter

You're a nut
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:31 PM ET
Nashville will not let him get to the market. They can't afford to do it. Whether its this summer or the trade deadline. I dont think Weber will string them along letting them think they have a chance.
- Just5

Weber wants Nashville to spend. Its well documented. They haven't. And at this point Semin and Doan are the only "names" left. Too little too late.

Someone give me one good reason why his agent won't have him test the market...

Don't start trading away our core for him, it's our biggest asset that could sway him here.

And MJL, I like to think everyone is different. Weber has never said he doesn't want to play in the East for one.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:32 PM ET
They should shop him now, the longer they wait the smaller the package
- puckhead17


You do have to wonder, if Weber leaves.

Nashville is in the poop. They know how to draft and develop D-men, and have great coaching along with goaltending.

They just seem to be spinning out of control. The Radulov experiment, Tits brothers experiment and now losing Suter.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:32 PM ET
Yes.

I will bet my pride, dignity and respect. I have none here to begin with.

- flyer_nutter


Me neither. But my bet is if Ryan is a Flyer, I am allowed to post on HB. If he is not, I won't post.

For the person taking my bet, they could post until Ryan is a Flyer. Of course, one must show honor in upholding the bet.

In effect, it could force a lifetime ban on me (i.e. Ryan is never a Flyer). Several posters, including MJL, may find this great news.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:32 PM ET
They should shop him now, the longer they wait the smaller the package
- puckhead17


correct
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 5 @ 7:34 PM ET
I like Laughton. Keep the kid.

Just for a reminder, Carter got the Flyers a 1st and Voracek.

Voracek who was for the most part kind of a risk.

Is Ryan that much better than Carter? Ryan's defensive game is questionable, he wouldnt even be on my radar.

- flyer_nutter



Yes. He is much better than Carter. WAY more consistent.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 7:34 PM ET
Weber wants Nashville to spend. Its well documented. They haven't. And at this point Semin and Doan are the only "names" left. Too little too late.

Someone give me one good reason why his agent won't have him test the market...

Don't start trading away our core for him, it's our biggest asset that could sway him here.

And MJL, I like to think everyone is different. Weber has never said he doesn't want to play in the East for one.

- hereticpride

If he signs an extension I would trade cooter mezzy cousins and 2 firsts
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 7:34 PM ET
no. just a cup. its been long enough
- Just5


HB is Costanza, but angrier.


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:35 PM ET
Me neither. But my bet is if Ryan is a Flyer, I am allowed to post on HB. If he is not, I won't post.

For the person taking my bet, they could post until Ryan is a Flyer. Of course, one must show honor in upholding the bet.

In effect, it could force a lifetime ban on me (i.e. Ryan is never a Flyer). Several posters, including MJL, may find this great news.

- Daman


You are talking to a guy who walks away from a blackjack table after winning 10$.

In the end its just a website. People take it too seriously sometimes. Not directing at you or anyone in particular. Just have fun with it.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 5 @ 7:35 PM ET
If he signs an extension I would trade cooter mezzy cousins and 2 firsts
- Deasr1


To me, Couturier is off limits no matter what. That kid is gonna be one of the best defensive forwards this league has ever seen.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
You are talking to a guy who walks away from a blackjack table after winning 10$.

In the end its just a website. People take it too seriously sometimes. Not directing at you or anyone in particular. Just have fun with it.

- flyer_nutter



I agree. So the bet should be easy for at least one person to take. I'm not asking for an arm.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:39 PM ET
To me, Couturier is off limits no matter what. That kid is gonna be one of the best defensive forwards this league has ever seen.
- Flyers2821


Do not get me wrong, I love the kid. Only in a deal for Weber would I consider giving him away.

A guy like Phaneuf had sky high expectations after his start in the league.
JVR had a glorious playoffs last season.

Different scenerios definately. I just wouldnt be willing to lose out on Weber because Cooties may or may not become a top guy. Weber currently is a top d-man, if not the best in the league. He is also young.
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