Weber just saw a far lesser player get a 13 yr 98 million dollar deal. Regardless of if he gets traded or not, he's a UFA after the 2012-2013 season is over. Any team that trades for him has to understand that. The odds a team can get him locked up before he becomes a free agent is slim and none. He's going to play out this season whether it be in Nashville, or elsewhere and then sit back like a boss and watch the 100+ million dollar contract offers roll in.
- PLindbergh31

If I'm poile I'm trading him now. If he has a bad season then everyone will assume Suter kept him up. Value plummets.

If I'm poile I'm trading him now. If he has a bad season then everyone will assume Suter kept him up. Value plummets.
- Deasr1

After losing Suter, Poile is in a very tricky situation. If the same scenario unfolds with Weber, it can be a death blow for that Nashville franchise. They can't survive losing Weber without compensation.

Weber just saw a far lesser player get a 13 yr 98 million dollar deal. Regardless of if he gets traded or not, he's a UFA after the 2012-2013 season is over. Any team that trades for him has to understand that. The odds a team can get him locked up before he becomes a free agent is slim and none. He's going to play out this season whether it be in Nashville, or elsewhere and then sit back like a boss and watch the 100+ million dollar contract offers roll in.
- PLindbergh31

I disagree completely. A team trading for him could easily lock him up long term. If the Flyers traded for him, I have no doubt that they would be able to re-sign him to a long term deal, and keep him away from Free Agency. He can get exactly what he wants from a top team that trades for him. Any team trading for him understands before making the trade, that they will have to meet his price.

A clear example is that Suter reportedly had deals worth more money, that he turned down. If Weber feels he is in a good place, with a team that can win, I believe he will sign.

I disagree completely. A team trading for him could easily lock him up long term. If the Flyers traded for him, I have no doubt that they would be able to re-sign him to a long term deal, and keep him away from Free Agency. He can get exactly what he wants from a top team that trades for him. Any team trading for him understands before making the trade, that they will have to meet his price.

A clear example is that Suter reportedly had deals worth more money, that he turned down. If Weber feels he is in a good place, with a team that can win, I believe he will sign.
- MJL

Will be interesting to compare this season between those too

I disagree completely. A team trading for him could easily lock him up long term. If the Flyers traded for him, I have no doubt that they would be able to re-sign him to a long term deal, and keep him away from Free Agency. He can get exactly what he wants from a top team that trades for him. Any team trading for him understands before making the trade, that they will have to meet his price.

A clear example is that Suter reportedly had deals worth more money, that he turned down. If Weber feels he is in a good place, with a team that can win, I believe he will sign.
- MJL

Yeah, Nashville's priority if they trade Weber is to make sure they send him to an ideal situation. If he's traded, Nashville will look to make the best deal for their franchise. If that offer happens to be from Columbus, so be it.

Weber will be hitting free agency at the end of the upcoming season in all likelihood.

After losing Suter, Poile is in a very tricky situation. If the same scenario unfolds with Weber, it can be a death blow for that Nashville franchise. They can't survive losing Weber without compensation.
- PLindbergh31

Buffalo is rumored to offer up Tyler Myers as the big piece of the deal.......Weber could just as easy say he wont resign at certain places and dictate the market

Yeah, Nashville's priority if they trade Weber is to make sure they send him to an ideal situation. If he's traded, Nashville will look to make the best deal for their franchise. If that offer happens to be from Columbus, so be it.

Weber will be hitting free agency at the end of the upcoming season in all likelihood.
- PLindbergh31

Nashville has to get him signed before the season begins once it does you've lost a lot of what you can get for him & the amount of teams who can get him & then fit him under the cap.

If they only sign him to a 1 year deal it might be a safe bet he's as good as gone from them as well.

Yeah, Nashville's priority if they trade Weber is to make sure they send him to an ideal situation. If he's traded, Nashville will look to make the best deal for their franchise. If that offer happens to be from Columbus, so be it.

Weber will be hitting free agency at the end of the upcoming season in all likelihood.
- PLindbergh31

Where did I say or even come close to saying that Nashville's priority would be to send him to an ideal situation? Of course Nashville will look to make the best deal for their team. If Weber is traded to a top franchise like Philly, Detroit, Vancouver, etc. No question that if Weber, not talking about Nashville now, will re-sign if he feels he is in a winning situation. If a team like Columbus, which is an awful example to use, trades for him knowing that they can't provide that situation for Weber, then they are foolish.

Nashville has to get him signed before the season begins once it does you've lost a lot of what you can get for him & the amount of teams who can get him & then fit him under the cap.

If they only sign him to a 1 year deal it might be a safe bet he's as good as gone from them as well.
- ob18

I just don't see how his agent isn't going to let him reach free agency. He's going to have teams lined up around the corner basically writing him a blank check. Weber's agent would be doing him a disservice if Weber doesn't test the market.

I just don't see how his agent isn't going to let him reach free agency. He's going to have teams lined up around the corner basically writing him a blank check. Weber's agent would be doing him a disservice if Weber doesn't test the market.
- PLindbergh31

Any top team that trades for him will write that same blank check. Weber's agents job is to get what the player wants. He can get that 100M + and be in a situation where he feels he has a chance to win a Cup, then that is the best situation for a player. He's going to get paid regardless. Suter could've gotten more money elsewhere reportedly. He took "slightly" less to go where he wanted to go.

Where did I say or even come close to saying that Nashville's priority would be to send him to an ideal situation? Of course Nashville will look to make the best deal for their team. If Weber is traded to a top franchise like Philly, Detroit, Vancouver, etc. No question that if Weber, not talking about Nashville now, will re-sign if he feels he is in a winning situation. If a team like Columbus, which is an awful example to use, trades for him knowing that they can't provide that situation for Weber, then they are foolish.
- MJL

It doesn't matter if it's a top team that trades for him, or a bottom feeder. If the guy doesn't want to be there, he will have 10-15 other options.

Any top team that trades for him will write that same blank check. Weber's agents job is to get what the player wants. He can get that 100M + and be in a situation where he feels he has a chance to win a Cup, then that is the best situation for a player. He's going to get paid regardless. Suter could've gotten more money elsewhere reportedly. He took "slightly" less to go where he wanted to go.
- MJL

So if the Flyers traded for Suter during the season, would they have been able to sign him? You just made my point for me. Thanks.

It doesn't matter if it's a top team that trades for him, or a bottom feeder. If the guy doesn't want to be there, he will have 10-15 other options.
- PLindbergh31

Well that would be part of trading for him. Knowing what he wants. What does Weber talk about wanting?

I just don't see how his agent isn't going to let him reach free agency. He's going to have teams lined up around the corner basically writing him a blank check. Weber's agent would be doing him a disservice if Weber doesn't test the market.
- PLindbergh31

Well if he is smart and wants that 10 plus year deal he may want to get it done now, I'd guess those type of deal won't be allowed in the next CBA.

Well that would be part of trading for him. Knowing what he wants. What does Weber talk about wanting?
- MJL

A hug

So if the Flyers traded for Suter during the season, would they have been able to sign him? You just made my point for me. Thanks.
- PLindbergh31

Were talking about Weber here. Suter was brought up to illustrate that money isn't the only factor in where a player decides to play. What has been written about what Weber wants?

Well if he is smart and wants that 10 plus year deal he may want to get it done now, I'd guess those type of deal won't be allowed in the next CBA.
- ob18

That's a fair point. Nashville is in a tough spot, if they trade him they may not be able to get as much as you would think because there is no assurance the team trading for him will have him beyond this year.

If I was Poile I would offer him 10 years at the max, and if he refuses he clearly doesn't want to be there. Then Poile has to trade him.

If Weber starts the season with Nashville, and doesn't have a deal, Poile is playing with fire.

Crosby didn't need to go UFA to make a poop ton of money. Weber wouldn't either.

Crosby didn't need to go UFA to make a poop ton of money. Weber wouldn't either.
- eayost

That's because Crosby wants to stay in Pittsburgh.

Crosby didn't need to go UFA to make a poop ton of money. Weber wouldn't either.
- eayost

Exactly. When you start getting to 100M, how much more do you need? Players like Weber want to win. And he wants his team to spend money to try and win. Teams like the Flyers try to win every year.

Crosby didn't need to go UFA to make a poop ton of money. Weber wouldn't either.
- eayost

I hate Crosby

I hate Crosby
- Deasr1

Xcellent




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OK serious question.

Would a team that wanted to trade for Weber be allowed to talk with him first to see if they can reach a long term deal?

Otherwise you are just trading away half your team and first round picks for the privilege of having him for 1 year.

That's because Crosby wants to stay in Pittsburgh.
- PLindbergh31

Weber wants to play in a real hockey town. Trading a ton of assets for him shows him you want him bad, and that's usually reciprocated when the contract comes. How did we know Pronger would sign after his 1 year with us? We didn't, but we want to win and showed him we want him. If he comes here, there'd be no problem signing him long term.