No I know as well it would be damaging to the entire league, just wasn't feeling too comfortable when I saw Fehr here, (baseball, aaaagggggghhhhh).
- puckhead17

Fehr is like a boogeyman, but he does realize how badly losing the World Series hurt baseball in 1994, so I doubt he'll let the new CBA go nuclear

To be honest, I dont give Couturier up at all. The fact that in his rookie season he made the best player in the World completely disappear in one of the highest scoring playoff series in a long time... still to this day blows me away.

The value of a center who can do that... is truly invaluable and I would not move him at all. To me, Couturier is absolutely untouchable.
- Flyers2821

The reality is that quality defensive checking Centers are available far more readily then franchise #1 defenseman are.

I gotta think Doan wants to play in an actual Hockey Market before he retires.
- JoeRussomanno

he could still sign in one when he's 39

come on now
- puckhead17

Takes trade rumors personally... what happens when he gets here and Carchidi says he has a sense of entitlement? Waco I mean Sea Isle 2.0?

So far I love what Holmgren has done with the team. He is not going to give up Couts or Schenn and has not overpaid for anyone. I am happy with this team, even if nothing more is done. Might see then go after Doan, if he is avalible, but if not there might be a few more depth signings and I will be good with that.
- bigmookalookie

They are actually in a position where they could overpay for Doan for the next 2 seasons and still be perfectly fine. Depending on what they do with Voracek I guess

Also, lets not forget that Homer has pulled some pretty nice heists the past few seasons come TDL time... Leino, Grossman...

The reality is that quality defensive checking Centers are available far more readily then franchise #1 defenseman are.
- MJL

When was the last time you saw a 19 year old completely shut down the best player in the game who was absolutely unstoppable the entire season?

I think the Flyers were very fortunate that Couturier had mono the previous season. He was a complete steal at 8. If Couturier or Schenn goes I'd send Schenn (not having considered the Schenn brothers in my equation)

Is Voracek considered a more vauable piece than Luke Schenn?

I'd prefer to resign and keep Voracek, keep couturier and trade the Schenn brothers and picks for Weber.

I could do that. Slam dumk.

Coots and Voracek is what we got for Carter. Would you have traded Carter and picks for Weber.

I know that was then and this is now, but 10 years with G and Schenn and Weber is how you build a franchise.

I believe the other pieces would fall into place. Players would want to come to Philly. Just MO.
- Daman

Fehr is like a boogeyman, but he does realize how badly losing the World Series hurt baseball in 1994, so I doubt he'll let the new CBA go nuclear
- Jsaquella

If there was justice in the world, our governments (Usa/Canada) would tell these owners and players if they don't get a CBA worked out before the new season, tickets are free and they don't get paid. Half arse it and get sent to the dessert to help conquer and control the oil fields.... Let me dream okay!

I gotta think Doan wants to play in an actual Hockey Market before he retires.
- JoeRussomanno

One would hope. If he is made avalible Snider will give him 4 years and pay him well, you can bet on that

Ryan Howard will be in the Phillies lineup tomorrow night.

he could still sign in one when he's 39
- puckhead17

Takes trade rumors personally... what happens when he gets here and Carchidi says he has a sense of entitlement? Waco I mean Sea Isle 2.0?
- JoeRussomanno

trying to find it in my soul to understand what your talking about

When was the last time you saw a 19 year old completely shut down the best player in the game who was absolutely unstoppable the entire season?
- Flyers2821

Doesn't matter. I'd trade him in a package for Weber. I can get a good defensive checking Center far more easily then I can a franchise #1 defenseman.

Ryan Howard will be in the Phillies lineup tomorrow night.
- MJL

Hopefully he has learned to pitch in the 7-8-9 innings...

One would hope. If he is made avalible Snider will give him 4 years and pay him well, you can bet on that
- bigmookalookie

much to the chagrin of the board, I would be okay with it. Doan is too much of a character heart guy that unless another lightning bolt strikes in the same bodily orifice I believe he'll play out that contract.

trying to find it in my soul to understand what your talking about
- puckhead17

well he sure found it in March didn't he?

They are actually in a position where they could overpay for Doan for the next 2 seasons and still be perfectly fine. Depending on what they do with Voracek I guess

Also, lets not forget that Homer has pulled some pretty nice heists the past few seasons come TDL time... Leino, Grossman...
- Flyers2821

I agree, I also think Voracek bypassed arbitration b/c he is close to getting a long term deal with the team. All in all Homer did excellent this year and heck if nothing is done he can make a splash next year.

- JoeRussomanno

yeah, when he's 39, barf that one up

Hopefully he has learned to pitch in the 7-8-9 innings...
- Flyers2821

I hear you. Papelbon with the blown save tonight.

I'm an eternal optomist when it comes to the Phils, but Paps getting his first loss via a blown save is a sign. Have to keep Cole and get hat you can for Vic, Pierre, Blanton...You can't lose 4 BP arms, your 2 and 4 hitter, 2 starters... and expect a good outcome.

Ryan Howard will be in the Phillies lineup tomorrow night.
- MJL

I think the Flyers were very fortunate that Couturier had mono the previous season. He was a complete steal at 8. If Couturier or Schenn goes I'd send Schenn (not having considered the Schenn brothers in my equation)

Is Voracek considered a more vauable piece than Luke Schenn?

I'd prefer to resign and keep Voracek, keep couturier and trade the Schenn brothers and picks for Weber.
- jstross

Brayden Schenn should be every bit as untouchable as Couturier. Both are going to be special players.

well he sure found it in March didn't he?
- JoeRussomanno

Hey, I hope it's there in October as well!!

much to the chagrin of the board, I would be okay with it. Doan is too much of a character heart guy that unless another lightning bolt strikes in the same bodily orifice I believe he'll play out that contract.
- JoeRussomanno

I would do it. He would add alot to this team, could also take Harts spot next year if he left via UFA

Flyers have roughly 7.5 mill in cap space left... could they overpay for Doan and sign Voracek with that money? Maybe waive Shelley?

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Briere-Schenn
Read-Couturier-Doan
Wellwood-Talbot-Fedotenko

Roll those 4 lines all year...

yeah, when he's 39, barf that one up
- puckhead17

that is some poop the flyers would do too...