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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 8:12 PM ET
I could be convinced to go 4 if he was going to sign in Pittsburgh or NY
- Jsaquella


Then it would depend on the cap hit.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 8:13 PM ET
Then it would depend on the cap hit.
- ob18


That would be yet another factor. I just know that Doan in Pittsburgh would suck for the Flyers.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 7 @ 8:14 PM ET
That would be yet another factor. I just know that Doan in Pittsburgh would suck for the Flyers.
- Jsaquella


I would loathe it. LOATHE.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 8:17 PM ET
I would loathe it. LOATHE.
- Flyskippy


How you spend your weekend is your business, buddy
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 7 @ 8:54 PM ET
vinny lecavalier.....signed through 2019 at 7.7
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.750m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Ben Holmstrom ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.875m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,668,373; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $3,531,627

If the Flyers stand pat, we could well see this roster start the season. This is without the bonus cushion, and includes Pronger because there's not a need to LTIR him
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM ET
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.750m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Ben Holmstrom ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.875m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,668,373; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $3,531,627

If the Flyers stand pat, we could well see this roster start the season. This is without the bonus cushion, and includes Pronger because there's not a need to LTIR him

- Jsaquella


There still is plenty of scoring on that roster, especially if there is more dedication to team defense. Also, there will be some interesting young forwards in the pipeline - Cousins, Akeson, Laughton.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM ET
There still is plenty of scoring on that roster, especially if there is more dedication to team defense. Also, there will be some interesting young forwards in the pipeline - Cousins, Akeson, Laughton.
- ravishingone


the forward core is undersized. doan would slide in real nice in this lineup
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM ET
vinny lecavalier.....signed through 2019 at 7.7
- Just5

That is ridiculous. Talk about overpaying and for too long. He doesn't have enough gas in the tank to play that contract.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
There still is plenty of scoring on that roster, especially if there is more dedication to team defense. Also, there will be some interesting young forwards in the pipeline - Cousins, Akeson, Laughton.
- ravishingone

I agree, woulnt mind if Muller would come if he was offered the league minimum on a 1 yr deal
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM ET
great work. A few questions. What did you do with Shelly and did you count all 4 Dlines +Pronger toward the cap?

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.750m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Ben Holmstrom ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.875m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,668,373; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $3,531,627

If the Flyers stand pat, we could well see this roster start the season. This is without the bonus cushion, and includes Pronger because there's not a need to LTIR him

- Jsaquella

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM ET
the forward core is undersized. doan would slide in real nice in this lineup
- Just5


I would be very suprised if Doan leaves Phoenix. Considering Jagr would have been 41 with a questionable groin and JVR missed half the season due to injury, I don' believe the forward size is that much of an issue. They were out competed against the Devils along the walls, I didn't think the forwards were shoved out of the way.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM ET
great work. A few questions. What did you do with Shelly and did you count all 4 Dlines +Pronger toward the cap?
- jstross


Shelley to the AHL/waivers. Pronger counts towards the cap unless the Flyers have under $4.91mm in space. For instance, if they added Doan, Pronger slides to LTIR and they get his hit in relief,

Pronger would be on the regular IR, so they could keep the roster at 23. Sestito could be swung in to replace Holmstrom or Rinaldo if need be, as well
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM ET
Shelley to the AHL/waivers. Pronger counts towards the cap unless the Flyers have under $4.91mm in space. For instance, if they added Doan, Pronger slides to LTIR and they get his hit in relief
- Jsaquella


But if I recall they won't get $4.91 in cap space, isn't it something like $2.9 ?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 9:31 PM ET
But if I recall they won't get $4.91 in cap space, isn't it something like $2.9 ?
- ob18


Depends when he goes on LTIR. If he starts the season there, they get the whole amount. You can't bank LTIR relief, it's like a pro-rated cap hit.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM ET
Cool. I'm not a big fan of Rinaldo. I really hope they upgrade there.
Shelley to the AHL/waivers. Pronger counts towards the cap unless the Flyers have under $4.91mm in space. For instance, if they added Doan, Pronger slides to LTIR and they get his hit in relief,

Pronger would be on the regular IR, so they could keep the roster at 23. Sestito could be swung in to replace Holmstrom or Rinaldo if need be, as well

- Jsaquella

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM ET
Depends when he goes on LTIR. If he starts the season there, they get the whole amount. You can't bank LTIR relief, it's like a pro-rated cap hit.
- Jsaquella



they have to place him on LTIR from the start of the season to have the cap space available throughout?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM ET
Cool. I'm not a big fan of Rinaldo. I really hope they upgrade there.
- jstross



great energy guy, but sometimes goes too overboard.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM ET
they have to place him on LTIR from the start of the season to have the cap space available throughout?
- puckhead17


Basically, it's like trading for a guy at the TDL. You get his prorated cap hit. Same concept with LTIR relief.

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM ET
Basically, it's like trading for a guy at the TDL. You get his prorated cap hit. Same concept with LTIR relief.
- Jsaquella



gotcha, (never did understand it fully)
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM ET
Depends when he goes on LTIR. If he starts the season there, they get the whole amount. You can't bank LTIR relief, it's like a pro-rated cap hit.
- Jsaquella


got it.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM ET
was watching some highlights from a flyers/preds game from last season and rinaldo and harry the Z were forechecking like crazy and creating havoc. i want rinaldo in the regular lineup please
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM ET
gotcha, (never did understand it fully)
- puckhead17


Aslo, I think, but am not 100% sure, that the only way a guy can be placed on LTIR is if the team has less cap space than his cap hit-so in other words, if that's the case, then for Pronger to go on LTIR, if the Flyers had $4.92mm in space, Pronger can't be LTIR'd
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
was watching some highlights from a flyers/preds game from last season and rinaldo and harry the Z were forechecking like crazy and creating havoc. i want rinaldo in the regular lineup please
- Don'tForgetTocchet


I like his speed and tenacity. I worry because he's got a bit of a target on his back and does cross the line at times
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
Basically, it's like trading for a guy at the TDL. You get his prorated cap hit. Same concept with LTIR relief.
- Jsaquella



I like Holmstrom in your custom lineup, he's played well with each call up.

victim of another numbers game in the lineup
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