was watching some highlights from a flyers/preds game from last season and rinaldo and harry the Z were forechecking like crazy and creating havoc. i want rinaldo in the regular lineup please
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I can do without him in the lineup if he can't keep his cool. Which he quickly developed a rep for this season.

I like his speed and tenacity. I worry because he's got a bit of a target on his back and does cross the line at times
- Jsaquella

yes but i kinda like that... i think/hope he can only get better at toeing the line w/experience

Yep. LTIR - Cap space = your LTIR cap allowance(it cannot be negative). $4.9 million is a high number when trading for partial contracts.

on LTIR is if the team has less cap space than his cap hit-so in other words, if that's the case, then for Pronger to go on LTIR, if the Flyers had $4.92mm in space, Pronger can't be LTIR'd

I can do without him in the lineup if he can't keep his cool. Which he quickly developed a rep for this season.
- ob18

so did sestito and rinaldo brings more to the table in my eyes

so did sestito and rinaldo brings more to the table in my eyes
- Don'tForgetTocchet

No doubt, if he can keep his cool he can be a valuable player, if not he's better off in the AHL

Aslo, I think, but am not 100% sure, that the only way a guy can be placed on LTIR is if the team has less cap space than his cap hit-so in other words, if that's the case, then for Pronger to go on LTIR, if the Flyers had $4.92mm in space, Pronger can't be LTIR'd
- Jsaquella

eeeekkk,

So, if we have more open available space before the season starts, we can't place him on LTIR, & would have to carry him as "dead cap $"?

So we would have to spend more money before the first puck drop?
(am I getting that right)?

eeeekkk,

So, if we have more open available space before the season starts, we can't place him on LTIR, & would have to carry him as "dead cap $"?

So we would have to spend more money before the first puck drop?
(am I getting that right)?
- puckhead17

You more or less want to hold off putting him on LTIR unless you are forced.

You more or less want to hold off putting him on LTIR unless you are forced.
- ob18

ok I got it now, (whew)

thank you

It basically means that the Flyers cap space won't exceed Prongers LTIR unless someone else goes on LTIR later.

eeeekkk,

So, if we have more open available space before the season starts, we can't place him on LTIR, & would have to carry him as "dead cap $"?

So we would have to spend more money before the first puck drop?
(am I getting that right)?
- puckhead17

It basically means that the Flyers cap space won't exceed Prongers LTIR unless someone else goes on LTIR later.
- jstross

right, got it, stuff had my head spinning a little

I guess that's why GM's have "cap-ologist's" now

I can do without him in the lineup if he can't keep his cool. Which he quickly developed a rep for this season.
- ob18

i thought rinaldo did a very good job with keeping his cool last year. a couple bad hits. He has such a target on his back it's a shame. I would like him in the lineup to start out, still think he brings more than sestito right now.

i thought rinaldo did a very good job with keeping his cool last year. a couple bad hits. He has such a target on his back it's a shame. I would like him in the lineup to start out, still think he brings more than sestito right now.
- Just5

A rock brings more to the table then Sestito, Rinaldo did for a most part not a bad job but his rep from juniors and the AHL followed him and didn't help his cause and won't going forward.

He'll have to work even more to keep his cool & show he can play while not being called for silly penalties.

Here is a great link that gives examples of how LTIR effects the year end cap. Either I'm missing something or this explains things differently than we've all been talking. This says if you are maxed on the cap you can acquire players using LTIR, but you'll need to dump salary before the end of the season or you'll violate the year end cap.

http://www.fearthefin.com...ckey-101-long-term-injury

Rinaldo really impressed me this year with his energy and, believe it or not, discipline.

He's a PERFECT 4th line energy guy, but he can't even step on the ice without the referees putting an arm up. It's a shame. It really is.

i thought rinaldo did a very good job with keeping his cool last year. a couple bad hits. He has such a target on his back it's a shame. I would like him in the lineup to start out, still think he brings more than sestito right now.
- Just5

Good analysis. Imo, he brought more heart to the last playoff game, and by far. He did take a bad penalty, but his energy was off the hook.

Good analysis. Imo, he brought more heart to the last playoff game, and by far. He did take a bad penalty, but his energy was off the hook.
- Daman

He did just that, we looked like we actually had a forecheck when he turned it up in that last game, for a little while anyway

A rock brings more to the table then Sestito, Rinaldo did for a most part not a bad job but his rep from juniors and the AHL followed him and didn't help his cause and won't going forward.

He'll have to work even more to keep his cool & show he can play while not being called for silly penalties.
- ob18

Sestito had moments. He's not a bad skater for a big guy, and he is definitely a big dude.

He also has a bit of skill.

I'm just not a fan of the guy.

He did just that, we looked like we actually had a forecheck when he turned it up in that last game, for a little while anyway
- puckhead17

Agree.
Rinaldo is the better player but I really liked what Sestito brought against Boston.

He did just that, we looked like we actually had a forecheck when he turned it up in that last game, for a little while anyway
- puckhead17

I was at that game. As a fan, that was the most adrenaline rushing moment I've been to when he decked Volchenkov.

That or Hartsey's OT winner with 0.8 seconds left to end the sacred Penguins' 11 game win streak

Hopefully, Rinaldo(22) and Sestito(24) improve year over year to help bolster that 4th line.

Hopefully, Rinaldo(22) and Sestito(24) improve year over year to help bolster that 4th line.
- jstross

That would be ideal. They could go out and try to sign a guy like Winnick or Kostopulous, but Rinaldo and Sestito would be cheaper and not force them to burn any additional contract slots.

I was at that game. As a fan, that was the most adrenaline rushing moment I've been to when he decked Volchenkov.

That or Hartsey's OT winner with 0.8 seconds left to end the sacred Penguins' 11 game win streak
- Giroux_Is_God

Awesomely agree to both!!
your recollection & reminder of those events make me hunger for the ugly summer to end & for us to drop the puck again!!

Rinaldo really impressed me this year with his energy and, believe it or not, discipline.

He's a PERFECT 4th line energy guy, but he can't even step on the ice without the referees putting an arm up. It's a shame. It really is.
- Giroux_Is_God

This was his rep before he even got to the NHL, it didn't help his cause so he has to work 10 times harder to show he's better then it.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=522456 (OHL, juniors)

http://blog.timesunion.co...remainder-of-season/8638/ (AHL)

http://poststar.com/sport...e0-a238-001cc4c03286.html (AHL)

I think he was also suspended a 3rd time in the AHL but can't find that article

That would be ideal. They could go out and try to sign a guy like Winnick or Kostopulous, but Rinaldo and Sestito would be cheaper and not force them to burn any additional contract slots.
- Jsaquella

Surprised Winnick is still available, I know he can have hands of stone, but he's a useful player, good size, versatile, & can play the PK

Agree.
Rinaldo is the better player but I really liked what Sestito brought against Boston.
- moylander

Having both does give us options