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Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jul 10 @ 1:03 AM ET
PK Subban is a 23 year old big/bruising defenseman who not only projects to be a very very good defenseman but an offensive/defenseman as well - he's very good right now. Toss in Plekanec and you solve your 2C monumental issue.
- CaptainBlackhawk


Trading one problem for another one?

http://www.rantsports.com...e-with-his-own-teammates/

CBHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pallie
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:03 AM ET
Three Words: Jason Arnott


Hawksfan8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:18 AM ET
Hell no to that trade. Montreal would clearly get the better end of that deal
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:21 AM ET
PK Subban is a 23 year old big/bruising defenseman who not only projects to be a very very good defenseman but an offensive/defenseman as well - he's very good right now. Toss in Plekanec and you solve your 2C monumental issue.
- CaptainBlackhawk

Like people have said, he checks off a lot of boxes: hee is young, right-handed, big, mean and a great booming shot for the powerplay. But what I like best is he brings back the swagger. That is what is missing mostt. Plus, he is always involved. The hawks play A LOT better in more emotional games when they are involved. The way Subban plays the other team will always be pissed and engaged. Making the Hawks engaged
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:31 AM ET
I hope we get doan
- southernhawk


Me too...but i'll be shocked if we land him.
CBHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pallie
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:31 AM ET
Like people have said, he checks off a lot of boxes: hee is young, right-handed, big, mean and a great booming shot for the powerplay. But what I like best is he brings back the swagger. That is what is missing mostt. Plus, he is always involved. The hawks play A LOT better in more emotional games when they are involved. The way Subban plays the other team will always be pissed and engaged. Making the Hawks engaged
- tomcat24


I'd still rather have Kane
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:31 AM ET
Trading one problem for another one?

http://www.rantsports.com...e-with-his-own-teammates/

- Return of the Roar


Subban's a Richard. Don't think we need a goof like that in the locker room.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 10 @ 1:55 AM ET
Subban's a Richard. Don't think we need a goof like that in the locker room.
- philco28


I have a huge issue with people (not saying you) that think top tiered talent is just going to fall from the trees for mid-tiered minor league prospects.

If people honestly with straight face think that a Subban/Plekanec/pick deal for Kane/Hammer isn't fantastic for the Hawks their true homer glasses are firmly affixed to their face.

To get top end talent - and both these players are - you have to give something up. The Hawks have forward depth and certainly would find someone to replace Kane - not his productivity but replace him. Someone like Doan.

This team is sorely missing a second line center, and a brute/defensive player coupled with a goalie. That's the reason this team hasn't advanced past the first round the last two years. It's not because they didn't have more of Patrick Kane. To get talent like that you have to give it up.

AJ Pierczynski is a Richard and this city loves him.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 10 @ 6:55 AM ET
Tired of the non-action. I have a feeling Doan will tease us all and stay put.
- philco28


x2. That seems to be the summer in a nutshell...Mutual interest reported between Hawks and Borodeur, Parise, Suter, now Doan. Seems like word around the league is that if you want to drive the price up on a contract by the team you want to go to, call Chicago. I am wondering if Stan folds to McDuh's pressure to make a splash and throws the moon at Semin. Here is hoping Chicago's roster looks better at the end of today.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 10 @ 6:58 AM ET
The Stevens isn't anything better than a squirrel gun. It's a family heirloom. It's been in the family since the 1930's.

The .380 is for home protection.

- EKolb13

....and a 12ga Remington 870 tactical ... 6 in the mag, 1 in the chamber, #4 shot ... for close encounters.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 10 @ 7:02 AM ET
Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc

Shane Doan's agent, Terry Bross, said not only have #Blackhawks contacted them, but also that Doan has interest in joining Hawks.



- hawks2010

And on that note I submit this, also with JJ's talk on the MTL/Kane trade. Get Winnik and Hannan BEFORE they are both gone and it's a good summer.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
MTL trade plus some FA's
FORWARDS
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Shane Doan ($6.000m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.875m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Daniel Winnik ($2.000m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Michael Frolik ($2.333m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.542m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Andrew Shaw ($0.565m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / Jamal Mayers ($0.650m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Duncan Keith ($5.538m) / Brent Seabrook ($5.800m)
Johnny Oduya ($3.383m) / P.K. Subban ($4.650m)
Scott Hannan ($2.000m) / Sheldon Brookbank ($1.250m)
Nick Leddy ($1.117m) /
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.667m)
Ray Emery ($1.150m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,095,128; BONUSES: $375,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,104,872
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 10 @ 7:05 AM ET
What is the best number?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...screen&NR=1&v=4Y76203CqYU

- Beaver-Warrior

Now I know why I no longer watch "sit-coms". Damn I miss Cheers & Night Court.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 10 @ 7:07 AM ET

I know Im a Kings fan, but I am a HUGE P. Kane fan and I would HATE to see Kane on MTL.

- LA_Kings6720

You want him? What'd DL (realistically) give up for Kaner?
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 10 @ 7:09 AM ET
How is it not Toews like? If I'm not mistaken, wasn't he one of the guys who helped talk Campbell in to coming here?

As to the source, I believe it came from twitter last week.

- EKolb13

If he was I didn't remember it. I do however remember seeing a Soupy interview where he mentioned Kaner was recruiting him at all-star weekend.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 10 @ 7:36 AM ET
Trading one problem for another one?

http://www.rantsports.com...e-with-his-own-teammates/

- Return of the Roar


Nice find, Roar. Thanks for posting................ It could be said that's exactly what the Hawks need. Grit, spunk, energy, refusal to allow the team to be soft.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jul 10 @ 8:37 AM ET
I have a huge issue with people (not saying you) that think top tiered talent is just going to fall from the trees for mid-tiered minor league prospects.

If people honestly with straight face think that a Subban/Plekanec/pick deal for Kane/Hammer isn't fantastic for the Hawks their true homer glasses are firmly affixed to their face.

To get top end talent - and both these players are - you have to give something up. The Hawks have forward depth and certainly would find someone to replace Kane - not his productivity but replace him. Someone like Doan.

This team is sorely missing a second line center, and a brute/defensive player coupled with a goalie. That's the reason this team hasn't advanced past the first round the last two years. It's not because they didn't have more of Patrick Kane. To get talent like that you have to give it up.

AJ Pierczynski is a Richard and this city loves him.

- CaptainBlackhawk


Good points....Subban has all the physical tools no doubt, but his cockiness could be a wild card we don't need. I'd much rather have a great character guy like Doan than a young, unpredictable, ROCK THE BOAT dude like Subban. If Subban had Doan's locker room demeanor, i'd add him ASAP, but he's still young and wild.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 10 @ 8:48 AM ET
Good points....Subban has all the physical tools no doubt, but his cockiness could be a wild card we don't need. I'd much rather have a great character guy like Doan than a young, unpredictable, ROCK THE BOAT dude like Subban. If Subban had Doan's locker room demeanor, i'd add him ASAP, but he's still young and wild.
- philco28


Hi philco.

I understand floks are saying this about PKs attitude, but how is his attitude any different that Big Buff ?
furso27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jul 10 @ 8:51 AM ET
Good points....Subban has all the physical tools no doubt, but his cockiness could be a wild card we don't need. I'd much rather have a great character guy like Doan than a young, unpredictable, ROCK THE BOAT dude like Subban. If Subban had Doan's locker room demeanor, i'd add him ASAP, but he's still young and wild.
- philco28



the flip side of that argument is that the presence of Toews, Hossa, Sharp and maybe Doan might keep Subban from being that rock the boat guy. In MTL who is there to control the locker room?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 8:54 AM ET
Sportsnet cites Russian report claiming Semin to sign 1 year deal with Penguins. His agent has no comment. -- Spector's Hockey (@SpectorsHockey)
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 10 @ 8:57 AM ET
I have a huge issue with people (not saying you) that think top tiered talent is just going to fall from the trees for mid-tiered minor league prospects.

If people honestly with straight face think that a Subban/Plekanec/pick deal for Kane/Hammer isn't fantastic for the Hawks their true homer glasses are firmly affixed to their face.

To get top end talent - and both these players are - you have to give something up. The Hawks have forward depth and certainly would find someone to replace Kane - not his productivity but replace him. Someone like Doan.

This team is sorely missing a second line center, and a brute/defensive player coupled with a goalie. That's the reason this team hasn't advanced past the first round the last two years. It's not because they didn't have more of Patrick Kane. To get talent like that you have to give it up.

AJ Pierczynski is a Richard and this city loves him.

- CaptainBlackhawk


That's cause AJ's antics were essential in bringing a WS to this town and he is a no BS hard worker who wears his emotions on his sleeve and calls a phenomenal game. Way easier to respect someone like that then some super athletic chatch who can't put it together and acts like a prima donna...

The reason this team hasn't advanced is Sharp has made a habit of missing open cages on the back side in the playoffs.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jul 10 @ 8:58 AM ET
In his blog about a week ago...jj mentioned the Hawks would rather be spenders in FA than risk getting burned in a big trade. This seems to be accurate. Stanbow will risk being embarassed or getting out pokered with a trade. He wants to "assured" of getting the upper hand.

Still the Hawks have 14 forwards and 8 dmen. The boat is full. Adding anyone means someone(s) has to go. Bolig and Hayes are you 2 bubble forwards at least going into camp. Who knows who might surprise or contend in camp. Obviuously Saad, Morin, Piri, and Smith...oh yes ole Olesz (a 3 million bag of pucks)
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 10 @ 8:58 AM ET
Hi philco.

I understand floks are saying this about PKs attitude, but how is his attitude any different that Big Buff ?

- mrpaulish


230 lbs
jimmy33
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 10 @ 8:58 AM ET
Hi philco.

I understand floks are saying this about PKs attitude, but how is his attitude any different that Big Buff ?

- mrpaulish


Good morning mr P

From what I recall at my old age, Big Buff got along with everyone in the locker room and kept everything loose.

there will be a deal soon so hang in there MrP
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 10 @ 9:05 AM ET
That's cause AJ's antics were essential in bringing a WS to this town and he is a no BS hard worker who wears his emotions on his sleeve and calls a phenomenal game. Way easier to respect someone like that then some super athletic chatch who can't put it together and acts like a prima donna...

The reason this team hasn't advanced is Sharp has made a habit of missing open cages on the back side in the playoffs
.

- fattybeef


Please tell me you aren't serious....
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 10 @ 9:07 AM ET
Good morning mr P

From what I recall at my old age, Big Buff got along with everyone in the locker room and kept everything loose.

there will be a deal soon so hang in there MrP

- jimmy33
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Where am I going to go , this is my favorite team in the universe, I'll be here hell or high water, from 99-2007 I was one of the clowns that had the entire section to himself, I got took a part time job at the UC just so I could watch the home games (before they were on TV) , Im here for the long haul.
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