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preds24
Nashville Predators
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 9 @ 4:29 PM ET
So 13 years 130 mil. for Weber?
- Khadgar



Probably more like 13 years, 104-105 mil. for Weber.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 9 @ 4:32 PM ET
Probably more like 13 years, 104-105 mil. for Weber.
- preds24

I don't think Burke will do that deal.
YouAreTheGovt
Nashville Predators
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 9 @ 4:32 PM ET
Probably more like 13 years, 104-105 mil. for Weber.
- preds24


...And he won't sign it.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:38 PM ET
No sure how an opinions writer for a local Vancouver rag became the mainstream media, but Tony Gallagher he has a tendency to dramatize. He'll write half pages opinion pieces about off handed comments by players and speculate how that will impact the relationship with coaching. He basically gets desperate for material and has space to fill. Taking him remotely serious is your first mistake.
Graydayz
Nashville Predators
Location: brentwood, TN
Joined: 11.17.2006

Jul 9 @ 4:43 PM ET
...And he won't sign it.
- YouAreTheGovt


Then's it time to go
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jul 9 @ 4:44 PM ET
No sure how an opinions writer for a local Vancouver rag became the mainstream media, but Tony Gallagher he has a tendency to dramatize. He'll write half pages opinion pieces about off handed comments by players and speculate how that will impact the relationship with coaching. He basically gets desperate for material and has space to fill. Taking him remotely serious is your first mistake.
- micah555



You do realize that Paul McCann has a persecution complex and hates everything Canada right? His blogs are about as dramatic as Tony's garbage....
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 9 @ 4:55 PM ET
Gallagher is a "maroon", he just says this stuff to sell papers. Problem is, there are people in Vancouver who read his stuff and think that way. Obviously not educated hockey fans, but it's lame that his opinion is out there for people to hang on to.
Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 4:58 PM ET
Gallagher is a "maroon", he just says this stuff to sell papers. Problem is, there are people in Vancouver who read his stuff and think that way. Obviously not educated hockey fans, but it's lame that his opinion is out there for people to hang on to.
- 13sundin13


Uh.

I love assumptions.

sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:59 PM ET
i think it would make sense that if you go above the median of the cap floor and ceiling that you don't receive revenue sharing. 2nd stipulation is that you can on receive revenue sharing 2 years in a row to prevent teams from "tanking" to get money.
Predfan306
Nashville Predators
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 9 @ 5:00 PM ET
To Philly 1980
ps Nashville is my favorite team in the west

Hope you come visit sometime. BTW, can we have Hartnell back?
deanofnucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.08.2008

Jul 9 @ 5:03 PM ET
Paul McCann: More Mainstream Media Arrogance
- pmccann


Paul... IF you knew who Tony Gallagher IS and has been in the Vancouver media you would not let it rub you the wrong way. Brian Burke banned the chump from the Canuck's dressing room back in the day for good reasoning. The writer (an embellishment) often writes his columns from his living room armchair. He is NOT an authority of Northern Hockey Brain trusts.

I will play Devils Advocate in one aspect however... simply put - the cap system is and has always been designed to prop up floundering markets in the southern USA. There was a time the Canucks benefited from the revenue sharing (2 years total I believe) but the amount they drew was miniscule compared to the annual drain forked over to the deadbeats to the tune of over $25M to the least successful franchises. In ANY business model I have encountered - no consortium of businesses would allow their profits to be continually drained to subsidize the VERY same competitors bidding on the scarce UFA's that could make or break the hope for post season success.

There is no greater thinking... and perhaps the real drive here is for yourself to write an inflammatory column? Maybe you and Gallagher are helping each other stir things up?
Predaceous
Nashville Predators
Location: Hypocrisy is prejudice with a
Joined: 11.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 5:06 PM ET
Not saying revenue sharing doesn't work or shouldn't be in place but come it's always implied that the owners must share their revenues? How come there's no "salary sharing" among the players?
- jimbri


There is. It's called escrow.
Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 5:07 PM ET
Paul... IF you knew who Tony Gallagher IS and has been in the Vancouver media you would not let it rub you the wrong way. Brian Burke banned the chump from the Canuck's dressing room back in the day for good reasoning. The writer (an embellishment) often writes his columns from his living room armchair. He is NOT an authority of Northern Hockey Brain trusts.

I will play Devils Advocate in one aspect however... simply put - the cap system is and has always been designed to prop up floundering markets in the southern USA. There was a time the Canucks benefited from the revenue sharing (2 years total I believe) but the amount they drew was miniscule compared to the annual drain forked over to the deadbeats to the tune of over $25M to the least successful franchises. In ANY business model I have encountered - no consortium of businesses would allow their profits to be continually drained to subsidize the VERY same competitors bidding on the scarce UFA's that could make or break the hope for post season success.

There is no greater thinking... and perhaps the real drive here is for yourself to write an inflammatory column? Maybe you and Gallagher are helping each other stir things up?

- deanofnucks


You need those teams to remain operational to keep the strength of the league.

The big markets need the lesser markets to keep the product as high quality as it is.

An 82 game season between 15 teams is a lot less appealing then a 30 team league.

If that makes sense.
clarkey
Location: Pembroke Pines, FL
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 9 @ 5:18 PM ET
Agreed. Just because he's in the paper doesn't make him "mainstream media". He's like some other bloggers on HB that just say wacky things to get hits.
- Mambo72


Like Ken Campbell at the hockey news. Tools.
clarkey
Location: Pembroke Pines, FL
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 9 @ 5:24 PM ET
There actually are conditions - you have to be growing your revenues at a pace greater than the NHL as a whole is growing, or your "share" of revenue sharing is cut back.

And you have to average over 14,000 tickets per game, although we all know that there are ways around that.

Like the Florida Panthers allowing anyone with a FLA driver's license into the game.

- Atomic Wedgie


Ahh, Toronto fans and their love of the Florida insults, always so enjoyable and fun.
preds4ever
Nashville Predators
Location: nashville, TN
Joined: 02.20.2010

Jul 9 @ 5:40 PM ET
Probably more like 13 years, 104-105 mil. for Weber.
- preds24


Remember that we have to overpay players to get them to sign long term deals.

Martin Erat - 7 years/$31.5m
David Legwand - 6 years/$27m

IMO if he takes a deal in Nashville it will be dumbfoundingly large.
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Jul 9 @ 5:41 PM ET
Gallagher is usually an idiot, but this blog stooped you to his level.
sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jul 9 @ 5:42 PM ET
Remember that we have to overpay players to get them to sign long term deals.

Martin Erat - 7 years/$31.5m
David Legwand - 6 years/$27m

IMO if he takes a deal in Nashville it will be dumbfoundingly large.

- preds4ever


based on what suter got it will take at least 8m a year for any team to sign weber
sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jul 9 @ 5:43 PM ET
Gallagher is usually an idiot, but this blog stooped you to his level.
- hertzman


i didn't read the gallagher article, but i agree to an extent that if you decide to spend money and lose money in the process that you shouldn't be eligible for revenue sharing.
Le_Moderateur
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.29.2011

Jul 9 @ 5:53 PM ET
Well, PJ was correct.

So Ek doesn't smell bad on that one.

You may want to change your location.

- Atomic Wedgie


Yeah, that is indeed a creepy location
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jul 9 @ 5:59 PM ET
Having lived in Vancouver before and read Tony G's stuff, I can tell you that this is actually one of his more sane pieces. At least it make sense to some extent....

Paul, you picked a terrible, terrible, terrible Gallagher article to make an example of. It's not like there isn't an abundance of choices.....
PREDX1
Nashville Predators
Location: Rock City, TN
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 6:20 PM ET
based on what suter got it will take at least 8m a year for any team to sign weber
- sens rock


Do u think he's worth it? I mean really a single defenseman...
im4preds
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jul 9 @ 6:25 PM ET
Do u think he's worth it? I mean really a single defenseman...
- PREDX1



What are they paying Pekka? 7.5 or something like that. Hell yes he is worth 8.
preds4ever
Nashville Predators
Location: nashville, TN
Joined: 02.20.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:39 PM ET
What are they paying Pekka? 7.5 or something like that. Hell yes he is worth 8.
- im4preds

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dgutzman
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jul 9 @ 6:52 PM ET
So 13 years 130 mil. for Weber?
- Khadgar


Probably be 14 years and 115-120. It will take him right up to 40, but not over. He is only 26
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