well it might be something like McNabb Finley then brennan.. they will have to play the game and i am not really sure brennan is THAT much better than Finley.. like someone else said he might be the next Jillson
- SabresFaninIndiana

I hope not Finley... maybe give Leduc a look because Pysyk hasn't seemed all that comfortable yet...

please tell me exactly how with this market... available players via trade.. and available UFAs..

you think it is possible to become instant contenders??

be our armchair GM for the day oh great realistic master.
- JVince11

Instant contenders?? are you kidding? it's been 16 years under Lindy and Darcy and still nothing, how much longer do you need???? cup winning coaches have been fired for less.
Stafford should have been gone years ago, Leino was a knee jerk signing, Connolly should have been gone years before his contract extentions. Lindy will take this team noplace it's already noted with him.

Instant contenders?? are you kidding? it's been 16 years under Lindy and Darcy and still nothing, how much longer do you need???? cup winning coaches have been fired for less.
Stafford should have been gone years ago, Leino was a knee jerk signing, Connolly should have been gone years before his contract extentions. Lindy will take this team noplace it's already noted with him.
- SABRES 89

you still haven't told me what your female doging this morning has accomplished... I don't disagree with what you said about... and I definitely do not hold Lindy in the highest regards...

but answer this....

Who is available that you would replace Lindy with that would make us better??

What trades or signings are available right now that would make us better?

I hope not Finley... maybe give Leduc a look because Pysyk hasn't seemed all that comfortable yet...
- JVince11

just because of the age and experience i can't see either pysyk or JGL being called up before Finley unless they really wow in the A.. which i doubt they will

this is what I was getting at.. the market is dry... we would have to over pay tremendously for any big talent right now..

and then he would just come back on and female dog about how Darcy gave up our future..

double edged sword.
- JVince11

I'd be willing to give up a decent amount for Getz now. Provided we could sign him long term. Maybe the Sabres would get added to Nash's list if we had a center like Getz for him to play with.

this is what I was getting at.. the market is dry... we would have to over pay tremendously for any big talent right now..

and then he would just come back on and female dog about how Darcy gave up our future..

double edged sword.
- JVince11

Can't have both we can just keep developing the roster or go and get what we need, the market isn't that dry it's just dry in Darcy terms because of what he's willing to move.

Instant contenders?? are you kidding? it's been 16 years under Lindy and Darcy and still nothing, how much longer do you need???? cup winning coaches have been fired for less.
Stafford should have been gone years ago, Leino was a knee jerk signing, Connolly should have been gone years before his contract extentions. Lindy will take this team noplace it's already noted with him.
- SABRES 89

not saying i disagree with you at all but don't you get tired of standing on the same soap box every day? i really don't see lindy or darcy being changed and at this point i don't think the trade market is there either.. we need another center i just dont see where it is going to come from. you got any ideas other than just complaining about it?

you still haven't told me what your female doging this morning has accomplished... I don't disagree with what you said about... and I definitely do not hold Lindy in the highest regards...

but answer this....

Who is available that you would replace Lindy with that would make us better??

What trades or signings are available right now that would make us better?
- JVince11

There are many coaches that could replace Lindy and spark this team. It happens EVERY year around the league. IMO, Lindy has always been one of the biggest problems with this team

I'd be willing to give up a decent amount for Getz now. Provided we could sign him long term. Maybe the Sabres would get added to Nash's list if we had a center like Getz for him to play with.
- RayHatesDomi

well the word is that is why we fell out of the Ryan sweepstakes... Ryan requested to Murray that he be traded to a team with a good 1C.. so I don't know if Murray honored that request by asking Darcy for more pieces or what..

Right now.. hte only half way available 1Cs are Getzlaf or Stastny and they both ahve HUGE question marks in declining stats, huge salary.. or 1/2 years left on their deals..

just because of the age and experience i can't see either pysyk or JGL being called up before Finley unless they really wow in the A.. which i doubt they will
- SabresFaninIndiana

Well, to be honest, Finley doesn't wow in the A either. I doubt we ever see him in Buffalo again

There are many coaches that could replace Lindy and spark this team. It happens EVERY year around the league. IMO, Lindy has always been one of the biggest problems with this team
- RayHatesDomi

i'm not disagreeing with this at all... I think we really missed our coach of the future when whats his name left Rochester and went to Florida.. and look how good they played for him this year...

I always liked and hoped Hartley would come back to the NHL but he is with Calgary now..

Well, to be honest, Finley doesn't wow in the A either. I doubt we ever see him in Buffalo again
- RayHatesDomi

i know he doesnt but he has the experience over the other two.. who knows though

well the word is that is why we fell out of the Ryan sweepstakes... Ryan requested to Murray that he be traded to a team with a good 1C.. so I don't know if Murray honored that request by asking Darcy for more pieces or what..

Right now.. hte only half way available 1Cs are Getzlaf or Stastny and they both ahve HUGE question marks in declining stats, huge salary.. or 1/2 years left on their deals..
- JVince11

I have no questions about Getzlaf. I take him w/ no questions asked. Stastny isn't in the same conversation as Getz

you still haven't told me what your female doging this morning has accomplished... I don't disagree with what you said about... and I definitely do not hold Lindy in the highest regards...

but answer this....

Who is available that you would replace Lindy with that would make us better??

What trades or signings are available right now that would make us better?
- JVince11

Bi$$hing isn't going to accomplish it but it should be a start by the fans, anybody but Lindy should be brought in to change the attitude and direction with this team. As far as trades go i'll have to keep looking it's hard for me now being at work with the job I do, I don't have an office job where I can be on the computer all day. Have to get back to you on that.

Instant contenders?? are you kidding? it's been 16 years under Lindy and Darcy and still nothing, how much longer do you need???? cup winning coaches have been fired for less.
Stafford should have been gone years ago, Leino was a knee jerk signing, Connolly should have been gone years before his contract extentions. Lindy will take this team noplace it's already noted with him.
- SABRES 89

from a guy who lives in vegas you think youd know that you play with the cards that are dealt. Darcy and Lindy arent going anywhere so we stand behind this team. If you dont like them so bad you can start liking some other team. Moves dont make cup teams casue if they did the leafs would have several more since the invention of the internet.

well the word is that is why we fell out of the Ryan sweepstakes... Ryan requested to Murray that he be traded to a team with a good 1C.. so I don't know if Murray honored that request by asking Darcy for more pieces or what..

Right now.. hte only half way available 1Cs are Getzlaf or Stastny and they both ahve HUGE question marks in declining stats, huge salary.. or 1/2 years left on their deals..
- JVince11

We could have still got Ryan but Darcy will not give up Ennis and that's the starting point. The hell with Stastny i'd rather have Getzlaf, Thornton or Marleau.

Bi$$hing isn't going to accomplish it but it should be a start by the fans, anybody but Lindy should be brought in to change the attitude and direction with this team. As far as trades go i'll have to keep looking it's hard for me now being at work with the job I do, I don't have an office job where I can be on the computer all day. Have to get back to you on that.
- SABRES 89

we all know who is available and who isn't on the market right now... if it is not a name that is being shopped than creating a trade is not reasonable anyway...

you have.. Getzlaf, Ryan, P. Kane, Stastny, Nash, Hemsky, Doan, Semin, Arnott, Stewart, Lecavalier, Luongo, and E. Kane

who have been actively shopped or is a good UFA that i can think of off the top of my head.

well the word is that is why we fell out of the Ryan sweepstakes... Ryan requested to Murray that he be traded to a team with a good 1C.. so I don't know if Murray honored that request by asking Darcy for more pieces or what..

Right now.. hte only half way available 1Cs are Getzlaf or Stastny and they both ahve HUGE question marks in declining stats, huge salary.. or 1/2 years left on their deals..
- JVince11

We really need a #1 center, obviously. I would even trade Myers for one. It helps attract players to your team. Players always say that they want to play w/ an elite center. You never hear anybody say I wanna play w/ team X because they have a good d-man

from a guy who lives in vegas you think youd know that you play with the cards that are dealt. Darcy and Lindy arent going anywhere so we stand behind this team. If you dont like them so bad you can start liking some other team. Moves dont make cup teams casue if they did the leafs would have several more since the invention of the internet.
- hubie

I like where you were going.. i agreed with you 100%..

but the Kings getting Richards and Carter last year really was the difference in their run I think... Quick getting hot and Brown playing like a bull with red in its eyes didn't hurt either.

from a guy who lives in vegas you think youd know that you play with the cards that are dealt. Darcy and Lindy arent going anywhere so we stand behind this team. If you dont like them so bad you can start liking some other team. Moves dont make cup teams casue if they did the leafs would have several more since the invention of the internet.
- hubie

First of all i'm not from here, born and raised in Buffalo, second of all how much longer do you need to see that Lindy and Darcy have done NOTHING with this team in 16 years? if that's ok with you I have no problem with that, it's not ok with me.

We really need a #1 center, obviously. I would even trade Myers for one. It helps attract players to your team. Players always say that they want to play w/ an elite center. You never hear anybody say I wanna play w/ team X because they have a good d-man
- RayHatesDomi

agreed... but teams are either built to outscore you.. or they are built from the net out...

We are built from the net out defensively...

teams like WSH, TB, SJ, and CHI just have to outscore you.

I like where you were going.. i agreed with you 100%..

but the Kings getting Richards and Carter last year really was the difference in their run I think... Quick getting hot and Brown playing like a bull with red in its eyes didn't hurt either.
- JVince11

I think the whole playoffs was all about quick and it proves all you need to do is get to the dance and you have a shot. Can we be 4 points better than last year I think so.

We could have still got Ryan but Darcy will not give up Ennis and that's the starting point. The hell with Stastny i'd rather have Getzlaf, Thornton or Marleau.
- SABRES 89

I would start making offers for Getz. They can def have Ennis as a part of that return

First of all i'm not from here, born and raised in Buffalo, second of all how much longer do you need to see that Lindy and Darcy have done NOTHING with this team in 16 years? if that's ok with you I have no problem with that, it's not ok with me.
- SABRES 89

Thats not what ANYONE is saying man.... get off your soapbox and read the comments...

we all agree that Darcy and Lindy haven't exactly won the right to be here til the day they retire.. but we know that complaining on here isn't going to get them fired..

we support what we have in front of us.. and hope for hte best... we know we aren't as good as some powerhouses but damn it.. anyone can win in the NHL.

agreed... but teams are either built to outscore you.. or they are built from the net out...

We are built from the net out defensively...

teams like WSH, TB, SJ, and CHI just have to outscore you.
- JVince11

Umm...those teams have been outscoring us. Maybe we should try outscoring them. An elite center would go a long ways towards that. We have a lot of d depth, as you know