in the last 4 years roy has 18 gwg
stastny has 9

I found that odd

Ok trying to catch up. It's early here and I haven't had my coffee yet. But As far as I can tell, Axel is a flake and will not be the next Tim Horton, Regehr and Sultzer will not be in Kiss or in the Rock and Roll hall of fame but the did join Rob Zombie and want thier D pairing named Stone Sour?? Does that about sum it up????
- Pope of Pucks

That's what I got out of it . and i had coffee already

Holy Schnikes!!

O'Rielly led the league last year in Takeaways with 101.. Tavares had 99...

But O'Rielly had a gVa/TkA differential of +67.. no one even came close to that in the NHL.

Thornton's differential was +1

in the last 4 years roy has 18 gwg
stastny has 9

I found that odd
- homiedclown

Stasnty is a pass first center who is not known for goals... Roy is a shoot first center who likes to score (putting bills in his fishtank).. thats just how it would be naturally..

Holy Schnikes!!

O'Rielly led the league last year in Takeaways with 101.. Tavares had 99...

But O'Rielly had a gVa/TkA differential of +67.. no one even came close to that in the NHL.

Thornton's differential was +1
- JVince11

Wow thats awesome!

Where did you get those stats? I'm curious who else is high up there, if there is anyone we can target this off season

I think that the RFA structure should be that a team forfeits specific draft picks for the tenure of a contract.

For example, teams offering a one year contract would forfeit picks for 1 year and teams offering six year contracts would forfeit picks for 6 years; this would promote their use and also prevent teams from offering long term sheets.

Wow thats awesome!

Where did you get those stats? I'm curious who else is high up there, if there is anyone we can target this off season
- IceColdBeer

Ryan Getzlaf had 95 giveaways last year... only Ilya Kovalchuk had more with 101.. Joe Thornton was 3rd with 95 as well....

Kovy was -98 in differential
Getzlaf was -60
Thornton was -1

in the last 4 years roy has 18 gwg
stastny has 9

I found that odd
- homiedclown

gwg can be somewhat of a misleading stat

I wish they would track go ahead goals, I'd be more interested to know which players score the most when the game is tied

Holy Schnikes!!

O'Rielly led the league last year in Takeaways with 101.. Tavares had 99...

But O'Rielly had a gVa/TkA differential of +67.. no one even came close to that in the NHL.

Thornton's differential was +1
- JVince11

One of my least favorite stats. Takeaways/giveaways are too subjective. On a play where there is a change of possession, it's either a takeaway or a giveaway. It can't be both. It's up to the statistitian's discretion. Team statistitians can pad their stats. If their team makes the play, it's obviously a takeaway for them. If their team loses the puck, don't penalize your own player with a giveaway. Just give your opponent the takeaway. No skin off your ass.

It's probably overthinking it. I don't think there are really stats conspiracies out there. But it's fact that it's either a giveaway or takeaway, not both. It's easy for these stats to get skewed

/soapbox

I usually dont agree with 89's opinions but ive been thinking about Lecavalier for a while. Just feels like a fit.

Ryan Getzlaf had 95 giveaways last year... only Ilya Kovalchuk had more with 101.. Joe Thornton was 3rd with 95 as well....

Kovy was -98 in differential
Getzlaf was -60
Thornton was -1
- JVince11

A much more revealing stat than +- , actually shows individual stats, as opposed to just being on the ice during a goal for/against

I wonder what afinagenovs differential was..

Ryan Getzlaf had 95 giveaways last year... only Ilya Kovalchuk had more with 101.. Joe Thornton was 3rd with 95 as well....

Kovy was -98 in differential
Getzlaf was -60
Thornton was -1
- JVince11

Getz had a horrible 1st half last season

A much more revealing stat than +- , actually shows individual stats, as opposed to just being on the ice during a goal for/against

I wonder what afinagenovs differential was..
- IceColdBeer

08-09 = -21
07-08 = -27
06-07 = -40
05-06 = -37

Getz had a horrible 1st half last season
- RayHatesDomi

1st half??

I think last season was completely pitiful for such a talented player...

gwg can be somewhat of a misleading stat

I wish they would track go ahead goals, I'd be more interested to know which players score the most when the game is tied
- RayHatesDomi

I like that idea. I wish empty net goals didnt count. I know it sounds wrong but when ov scores 50 something goals and have 10+ eng is he really a 50 goal scorer.

I usually dont agree with 89's opinions but ive been thinking about Lecavalier for a while. Just feels like a fit.
- battelmt

he's 32 and his production has been declining over the past 4 years. Plus, doesn't he get paid 10 mil per for the next 4 seasons?

I should've looked it up but I'm too lazy

I usually dont agree with 89's opinions but ive been thinking about Lecavalier for a while. Just feels like a fit.
- battelmt

And I think he could be had without giving up TOO much.

Im fine with our young core, we just need a stop gap center until they get more experience.

Marleau/Thornton/Vinny are great options.

But whens the last time we made a big trade within the East?

08-09 = -21
07-08 = -27
06-07 = -40
05-06 = -37
- JVince11

I was expecting triple digits hah

I usually dont agree with 89's opinions but ive been thinking about Lecavalier for a while. Just feels like a fit.
- battelmt

I like the idea too.. but you have to remember 8 years... until 2020.. would have Vinny at 7.75M cap hit on our books but 10M salary until 2015-2016..

2006 - played 82 games and scored 108
2007 - played 81 games and scored 92
2008 - played 77 games and scored 67 (stamkos draft year)
2009 - played 82 games and scored 70
2010 - played 65 games and scored 54
2011 - played 64 games and scored 49

I would say because of what hte asking price would be I would pass...

1st half??

I think last season was completely pitiful for such a talented player...
- JVince11

But it was the 1st half of the season where he tanked. His #s improved the 2nd half

Ryan got off to a slow start last year as did Perry

he's 32 and his production has been declining over the past 4 years. Plus, doesn't he get paid 10 mil per for the next 4 seasons?

I should've looked it up but I'm too lazy
- RayHatesDomi

.. wow I just looked that up..

he gets paid 10M from 09-10 season to 15-16 seasons.. then 8.5, then 4, then 1.5, then 1.

I usually dont agree with 89's opinions but ive been thinking about Lecavalier for a while. Just feels like a fit.
- battelmt

I like him as a player... but his age and contract... I'd run from that faster than I'd run from Dipietro's!

I like the idea too.. but you have to remember 8 years... until 2020.. would have Vinny at 7.75M on our books..

2006 - played 82 games and scored 108
2007 - played 81 games and scored 92
2008 - played 77 games and scored 67 (stamkos draft year)
2009 - played 82 games and scored 70
2010 - played 65 games and scored 54
2011 - played 64 games and scored 49

I would say because of what hte asking price would be I would pass...
- JVince11

2020? it's even longer than I thought. His cap hit is 7.75 but isn't his actual pay 10 mil? atleast for the next few years?

But it was the 1st half of the season where he tanked. His #s improved the 2nd half

Ryan got off to a slow start last year as did Perry
- RayHatesDomi

interesting point.. I didn't realize that..

Ryan only had 12 points on December 1st... 24 games.

Perry had 21 points on December 1st though..

Getzlaf had 19 points on December 1st.

2020? it's even longer than I thought. His cap hit is 7.75 but isn't his actual pay 10 mil? atleast for the next few years?
- RayHatesDomi

yea salary is 10M until the 2016-2017 season begins.