if they could move Lee and keep Cole, that'd be ideal for me.
he's been my fav phillie since 07
but losing Hamels wouldnt be the end of the world, imo, either.
if they trade him they can get great value..
and if there's one depth position in this org its starting pitching (big club and minors).
they have like zero quality everyday player prospects.
use Cole's money to sign a quality FA bat or two.
- Crimsoninja

There is no doubt that they don't have the bats, or the prospects to add the bats.

Agree completely.

most people type their reply below the post they are quoting, as opposed to above
- Crimsoninja

Don't you notice everyone else quoting a post, having their reply below the quoted post?
- MJL

if he really is 2Real i will give this gimmick immense props

From all the reports I hear, that is the hangup. That the Phils don't want to go 6-7 years on a deal.
- MJL

Do you have a source on that?

I haven't heard Eskin opine on this but I would only buy into the reports if it is a source with similar credentials.

-Jersey Gent

Do you have a source on that?

I haven't heard Eskin opine on this but I would only buy into the reports if it is a source with similar credentials.

-Jersey Gent
- Daman

Sorry, I don't have a source. All I hear is the same speculation that everyone else hears.

Might be time for a new gimmick huh?

I didn't understand that. Can you restate?

Don't you notice everyone else quoting a post, having their reply below the quoted post?
- MJL

Do you have a source on that?

I haven't heard Eskin opine on this but I would only buy into the reports if it is a source with similar credentials.

-Jersey Gent
- Daman

even though i dont get it, i am glad that you edited this to include the JG tagline.
it seemed you had given up on it midway through the day.

not sure i understand the Eskin obsession either though.

Sorry, I don't have a source. All I hear is the same speculation that everyone else hears.

Might be time for a new gimmick huh?
- MJL

No gimmick. I just know that the mods here enforce the source of information fairly strictly. It is important to play by the rules.

And after all the suggestions here about the work of Eskin, I have become a fan. He did a great job last night, but I had to stay up late to watch. Well worth it. Good stories on the Phils and PSU.

Eskin made a killer point that the Phils should have signed Hamels before it got to this point. I never thought of it that way, and it felt good to be enlightened.

A little self enlightenment never hurt anyone!

Cheers.

-Jersey Gent

No gimmick. I just know that the mods here enforce the source of information fairly strictly. It is important to play by the rules.

And after all the suggestions here about the work of Eskin, I have become a fan. He did a great job last night, but I had to stay up late to watch. Well worth it. Good stories on the Phils and PSU.

Eskin made a killer point that the Phils should have signed Hamels before it got to this point. I never thought of it that way, and it felt good to be enlightened.

A little self enlightenment never hurt anyone!

Cheers.

-Jersey Gent
- Daman

ahhhh the old "its not a gimmick" gimmick

a true classic

most people type their reply below the post they are quoting, as opposed to above
- Crimsoninja

Hah, I get it. This better?

No gimmick. I just know that the mods here enforce the source of information fairly strictly. It is important to play by the rules.

And after all the suggestions here about the work of Eskin, I have become a fan. He did a great job last night, but I had to stay up late to watch. Well worth it. Good stories on the Phils and PSU.

Eskin made a killer point that the Phils should have signed Hamels before it got to this point. I never thought of it that way, and it felt good to be enlightened.

A little self enlightenment never hurt anyone!

Cheers.

-Jersey Gent
- Daman

Like I said, definitely time for a new shtick

Hah, I get it. This better?
- jstross

And all it took was someone to point out how different your responses were!

Hah, I get it. This better?
- jstross

I liked the other way better. Don't be afraid to be unique!

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports that the Phillies plan to offer at least $120 million to keep impending free agent Cole Hamels. This would equal Cliff Lee's five-year, $120 million contract with the club. The Phillies reportedly don't mind giving Hamels the yearly salary he covets, but the number of years is believed to be the major sticking point. With that in mind, two management people on other teams told Heyman that they believe the Phillies will have to go closer to Johan Santana's six-year, $137.5-million deal -- or even more -- to convince Hamels from testing free agency. And they're probably right. While the Phillies plan to make a "substantial offer" to Hamels before the trade deadline, Heyman hears that "some people within the organization" aren't overly optimistic they'll be able to get it done.
Source: CBSSports.com

*They have to trade him if he wont sign.

5/$135 (25/25/25/25/25 and 25 with a $10 million buyout in 6) should do it, but I believe Hamels wants 6+ years. I think Hamels signs 6/$154 (24x6) with 24 and a $10 buyout in year 7. If not then trade him. Numbers ar getting way too high.

No gimmick. I just know that the mods here enforce the source of information fairly strictly. It is important to play by the rules.

And after all the suggestions here about the work of Eskin, I have become a fan. He did a great job last night, but I had to stay up late to watch. Well worth it. Good stories on the Phils and PSU.

Eskin made a killer point that the Phils should have signed Hamels before it got to this point. I never thought of it that way, and it felt good to be enlightened.

A little self enlightenment never hurt anyone!

Cheers.

-Jersey Gent
- Daman

You really took that Eskin conversation personally, huh?

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports that the Phillies plan to offer at least $120 million to keep impending free agent Cole Hamels. This would equal Cliff Lee's five-year, $120 million contract with the club. The Phillies reportedly don't mind giving Hamels the yearly salary he covets, but the number of years is believed to be the major sticking point. With that in mind, two management people on other teams told Heyman that they believe the Phillies will have to go closer to Johan Santana's six-year, $137.5-million deal -- or even more -- to convince Hamels from testing free agency. And they're probably right. While the Phillies plan to make a "substantial offer" to Hamels before the trade deadline, Heyman hears that "some people within the organization" aren't overly optimistic they'll be able to get it done.
Source: CBSSports.com

*They have to trade him if he wont sign.
- stveshdy

Olt would be the prize if Hamels won't resign. It wold be a long shot, but if I were the Phils I'd go higher on the conrtact after the season if I had a cheap stud 3b like Olt.

You really took that Eskin conversation personally, huh?
- BulliesPhan87

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports that the Phillies plan to offer at least $120 million to keep impending free agent Cole Hamels. This would equal Cliff Lee's five-year, $120 million contract with the club. The Phillies reportedly don't mind giving Hamels the yearly salary he covets, but the number of years is believed to be the major sticking point. With that in mind, two management people on other teams told Heyman that they believe the Phillies will have to go closer to Johan Santana's six-year, $137.5-million deal -- or even more -- to convince Hamels from testing free agency. And they're probably right. While the Phillies plan to make a "substantial offer" to Hamels before the trade deadline, Heyman hears that "some people within the organization" aren't overly optimistic they'll be able to get it done.
Source: CBSSports.com

*They have to trade him if he wont sign.
- stveshdy

At this point, I'll be surprised if he's not traded.

At this point, I'll be surprised if he's not traded.
- MJL

he gone

You really took that Eskin conversation personally, huh?
- BulliesPhan87

He's awesome, and now I feel awesome.

Cheers!


-Jersey Gent

At this point, I'll be surprised if he's not traded.
- MJL

Eskin points out that the Phillies should overpay if they want to keep him.

Somewhere to the tune of $25m per year.

It's clear that he is the best young player on your team and there really is no second. Has to get done.

-The Gent.

Funny. I never saw anything wrong with it.

And all it took was someone to point out how different your responses were!

- MJL

But I guess that was just me.

He's awesome, and now I feel awesome.

Cheers!


-Jersey Gent
- Daman

I'm very happy for you, it seems like this episode of personal revelation has really brought you inner peace.

At this point, I'll be surprised if he's not traded.
- MJL

Take the best offer out there. Time to unload some of these guys. Victorino will be the first to go I believe.