Pages 18-25 or so were entertaining.
- dadeadhead

I missed it... Were prostitutes and coke mentioned?

I agree. But it's not all just about his point production. He makes the players around him better as well.
- HonkFortheGoose

exactly. and for that reason plus his rediculous playoff tendancies i would love to bring him back. at a reasonable trade value. not sure wat it would take, but if its not a howson like request im all over it

I enjoyed reading them when I got home from work this morning
- homiedclown

I re-red them myself this morning.


Most fun ive had posting here in weeks.

I missed it... Were prostitutes and coke mentioned?
- jochfr

Yes and a midget one at that.

There's where the difference comes in, Briere is more of a liability defensively. Everyone knows that. But he was a good leader when he was here, he makes his teammates better, he's a proven performer. With some of the other changes in the offseason, we can now afford to do something like this without having to worry about that. Ott can play in Roy's PK position, so we haven't shorted ourselves there anyway.
- HonkFortheGoose

It's also good to have players on your team that take pride in the community and like living there

There's where the difference comes in, Briere is more of a liability defensively. Everyone knows that. But he was a good leader when he was here, he makes his teammates better, he's a proven performer. With some of the other changes in the offseason, we can now afford to do something like this without having to worry about that. Ott can play in Roy's PK position, so we haven't shorted ourselves there anyway.
- HonkFortheGoose

If that is the case... maybe we look at Briere as a deadline deal..

I really want to see how camp, preseason, and Grigs possible 9 game tryout goes before we make a move that could stunt our young players growth on the depth chart.

I re-red them myself this morning.


Most fun ive had posting here in weeks.
- dadeadhead

I checked a few pages here and there when I went out to have a smoke

I got a tip that it was entertaining

the flip side is so did sekera and weber 340 games ago
- homiedclown

That is true, but McNabb is more well rounded than they are. Sekera is more offensive, Weber is more stay at home. McNabb is a mix of both, and I think that gives him a higher possibility of success.


Besides, I don't have a problem with Sekera in a 3-4 role. I just don't want him in a 1-2 role.

If that is the case... maybe we look at Briere as a deadline deal..

I really want to see how camp, preseason, and Grigs possible 9 game tryout goes before we make a move that could stunt our young players growth on the depth chart.
- JVince11

Hes only owed 5mil in the last 2yrs of his deal.

What about the rest of his game... is he better than Roy at FO%, two way game, turnovers, PP/PK time, etc.

I'll give him leadership, playoff performance, motivate others all day..

but we are still talking about a guy that makes the same money as Stastny.
- JVince11

irrelivant. if were planning on playing him with ott and pommer, as i believe was the discussion, they are both good at faceoffs and are strong defenders. and as far as pp and pk you play whoever on the team is best in those situations. if its not him than its not him. wat we are curretly lacking is leadership and playoff experience. he brings both in spades. the rest of his game is irrelivant. one piece cant be expected to do everything

Pages 18-25 or so were entertaining.
- dadeadhead

Good, good.

Farm animals, huh?

Hes only owed 5mil in the last 2yrs of his deal.
- dadeadhead

Touche... VERY nice find..

http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=749

I would be curious of what to trade for him though...

I think trading them someone like McNabb, Pysyk, Ennis, Hodgson... and then seeing them go to Philly and prosper and grow into the type of players that we hope they become would just kill me.

Adam, Sekera, Gerbe, Enroth... those type players I don't mind..

Touche... VERY nice find..

http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=749

I would be curious of what to trade for him though...

I think trading them someone like McNabb, Pysyk, Ennis, Hodgson... and then seeing them go to Philly and prosper and grow into the type of players that we hope they become would just kill me.

Adam, Sekera, Gerbe, Enroth... those type players I don't mind..
- JVince11

agreed. thats the only thing that worries me about picking up briere. wat would we have to give philly? i hate those guys!

Good, good.

Farm animals, huh?
- nfph

I may have been clowning around a bit with that one

the flip side is so did sekera and weber 340 games ago
- homiedclown

I think it's different. Neither Sekera nor Weber were asked to do much in those early games. Sekera did show some promise, but he was a puck-moving defenseman, of which they already had a lot of, and obtained even more over the years. He's an okay defenseman even now, but never turned into that special player we all hoped he'd be. Weber was always dumb as a rock, even when he looked "good" in 2008. The fact that he was "physical" simply enamored everybody so much, because the team needed a player of that mold, that everyone giddily decided it was okay to ignore the fact that he took himself out of position almost every time he went to lay a hit. McNabb is a hell of a lot more sound positionally than Weber ever was.

irrelivant. if were planning on playing him with ott and pommer, as i believe was the discussion, they are both good at faceoffs and are strong defenders. and as far as pp and pk you play whoever on the team is best in those situations. if its not him than its not him. wat we are curretly lacking is leadership and playoff experience. he brings both in spades. the rest of his game is irrelivant. one piece cant be expected to do everything
- spasmatic13

I think it would be ok to not have to put every player under the Ryan Kessler litmus test before bringing them in, as well. There are guys in the league who are better at offense than they are at defense, even by a wide margin.

Thing is, you need offense to win as well.

I may have been clowning around a bit with that one
- homiedclown

This changes everything.

That is true, but McNabb is more well rounded than they are. Sekera is more offensive, Weber is more stay at home. McNabb is a mix of both, and I think that gives him a higher possibility of success.


Besides, I don't have a problem with Sekera in a 3-4 role. I just don't want him in a 1-2 role.
- HonkFortheGoose

I want more of the good sekera that plays with confidence

when he is on, wow

I would like to see that for at least 40 games a year

I want more of the good sekera that plays with confidence

when he is on, wow

I would like to see that for at least 40 games a year
- homiedclown

I'd like to win the lottery, too.

Good, good.

Farm animals, huh?
- nfph

I think someone got a little carried away.

I'd like to win the lottery, too.



- Powerslave

lottery is probably more likely to happen...

Sekera and his sick trade value should be showed the door.

I think it's different. Neither Sekera nor Weber were asked to do much in those early games. Sekera did show some promise, but he was a puck-moving defenseman, of which they already had a lot of, and obtained even more over the years. He's an okay defenseman even now, but never turned into that special player we all hoped he'd be. Weber was always dumb as a rock, even when he looked "good" in 2008. The fact that he was "physical" simply enamored everybody so much, because the team needed a player of that mold, that everyone giddily decided it was okay to ignore the fact that he took himself out of position almost every time he went to lay a hit. McNabb is a hell of a lot more sound positionally than Weber ever was.
- buffalofan19

sekera played an average of over 19 and a half minutes in 07-08
mcnabb played less then 18 minutes per game last year

(not trying to start a pissing contest)

lottery is probably more likely to happen...

Sekera and his sick trade value should be showed the door.
- JVince11

But it takes defensmen longer to come around.


We just need to wait.

I'd like to win the lottery, too.



- Powerslave

I want more of the good sekera that plays with confidence

when he is on, wow

I would like to see that for at least 40 games a year
- homiedclown

I thought Sekera was more than okay this year given the fact that the forward group was mediocre to terrible for the majority of the year. That was the most underwhelming corps of forwards this team has had since before the 2003 trade deadline. The defense corps was both expected to keep pucks out of the zone, and compensate for the forwards' incompetency at the offensive end. You're never going to be successful with that, no matter how good or bad you are. If you get better forward play, you'll also get much, much better play from players like Andrej Sekera as well.