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big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:38 AM ET
Sure might as well .How about we just have the richest teams just play for the cup ,because thats where we are headed .Great you can win a cup in a six or seven team league and you can boast how great it is
- top shelf 15


my point exactly.

baseball is an absolute joke because of this, and it seems like hockey is starting to follow suit,
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 9:38 AM ET
Yea is great to see a team tank for several years and collect several top picks to win a cup and then not be able to afford players after (Chicago - Pitt (Oilers in the future)) compared to a team that year in and year out manages their cap and is in the playoffs by picking up players through drafting, trading and free agency......
- Jack-Meoff

The Hawks and Penguins simply did not have enought cap room......the Pred simply cannot afford Weber at that price , I dont call that missmanaging .....not the same thing.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:39 AM ET
and we will
- vejim


actually, you will never win a cup.

you have Bryzgalov on lock down for how many more years?

hell, Bobrovski is better.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:39 AM ET
As you all know I have been writing a ton about Weber and Philly for almost a year.
- Eklund


To be fair, you've been writing a ton about everyone and Philly.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
How, exactly, is the CBA being cheated? The CBA allows offer sheets. It's a valid tactic to make your team better.

One can debate the "honor" of such a tactic, but it's certainly not cheating by the letter of the law.

- Jsaquella



It's not the offer sheet that will be reviewed, it's the structure of the contract. If it comes anywhere close to Kovalchuk, Bettman has to do something given what the owners are saying to the PA. It's even worse for him if Preds match and another small revenue team throws big bucks ($26m in one year) at a player.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
sounds like we need an A$ league and a B$ league
- big_dion

The big market teams should be given the luxury of operating like a big market team. Not to the extent that it completely screws the smaller market teams but it's BS that just because other teams don't have the same financial resources that the big teams do that suddenly the big teams have to get handicapped.

Not saying that the cap should be gone, but a luxury tax would make total sense.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
The Hawks and Penguins simply did not have enought cap room......the Pred simply cannot afford Weber at that price , I dont call that missmanaging .....not the same thing.
- Alexzanki


exactly..

big difference.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
The Hawks and Penguins simply did not have enought cap room......the Pred simply cannot afford Weber at that price , I dont call that missmanaging .....not the same thing.
- Alexzanki

This
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 19 @ 9:41 AM ET


Normally I'd delete this portion to avoid the chaos you're about to cause...

- Juice

He must think he's one of us 'cool guys'
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
there is a reason the CBA is being discussed at this time, because its (frank)ed.
- big_dion


I said as much back in 2005. Still is the rules that govern the sport, so signing a RFA to a sheet is a valid, legal move.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
He must think he's one of us 'cool guys'
- BulliesPhan87

Love that avatar.

So good.
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
not to mention i would kinda like this to become a bit more popular... it prevents teams tanking for 4 years (cough edmonton) because they know they have 7-8 years of these young guys... i find it stupid that getting last every year has become a "good thing" and people are actually happy their GM is doing Richard all to make the team better... its like a fat guy going to the olympics and getting last in the 100m but he gets to have a gold medal for 8 years and then having the actual winner of the race signing it away.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
The big market teams should be given the luxury of operating like a big market team. Not to the extent that it completely screws the smaller market teams but it's BS that just because other teams don't have the same financial resources that the big teams do that suddenly the big teams have to get handicapped.

Not saying that the cap should be gone, but a luxury tax would make total sense.

- Juice


yeah i was over exagerating most def.

somethings gotta give. if this offer sheet happens, prepare for all hell to break loose next year.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
no.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
my point exactly.

baseball is an absolute joke because of this, and it seems like hockey is starting to follow suit,

- big_dion

Yep but flyer fans will have their cup ,to bad it will be pretty hollow
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
It's not the offer sheet that will be reviewed, it's the structure of the contract. If it comes anywhere close to Kovalchuk, Bettman has to do something given what the owners are saying to the PA. It's even worse for him if Preds match and another small revenue team throws big bucks ($26m in one year) at a player.
- Canada Cup


The biggest issue in the Kovalchuk deal was, the original deal had such a drop off after age 42 that it was easy to expect the player to retire well before the deal was done.

Weber's deal takes him to age 40 and stops. The structure will still be interesting, but I would think that the Flyers followed the letter of the law in making it.

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper

#Preds Weber offer sheet from #Flyers. 1st 4 yrs 1M salary+13M sb; yrs 5-6 4M sal+ 8Msb; yrs 7-10 6M sal; year 11 3M sal; last 3 yrs 1M sal
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
I said as much back in 2005. Still is the rules that govern the sport, so signing a RFA to a sheet is a valid, legal move.
- Jsaquella


np

i hope it works out and i hope burke offer sheets Giroux and B schenn and you guys cant afford either because you stole weber and that pile of poop you have in net you call Bryzgalov.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Love that avatar.

So good.

- Juice

Just saw it for the first time last weekend, what a movie! If ever there was a cool guy, his name is Gene Wilder.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
I said as much back in 2005. Still is the rules that govern the sport, so signing a RFA to a sheet is a valid, legal move.
- Jsaquella

Offer sheets are fine with me, I've got zero problems with those.

But the BS contracts like Luongo, Kovalchuk and the Suter/Parise contracts are just crap...those were cheating the CBA and the GM's know it. And if we can't use the word cheat then it's 150% circumvention.
MeLLo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenixville, PA
Joined: 07.19.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
my point exactly.

baseball is an absolute joke because of this, and it seems like hockey is starting to follow suit,

- big_dion


Right, b/c spending all that money is working out so well for the Phillies, Yankees, and Red Sox.

Who are the playoff teams right now? nationals, pirates, reds, giants, braves & Yankees, orioles, white sox, rangers, angels.

And the Yankees have no shot at the WS this year b/c of their pitching.

Quit your crying.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
Yep but flyer fans will have their cup ,to bad it will be pretty hollow
- top shelf 15


no big deal, bobby clarke would just send a hitman out to steal it anyhow
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
Just saw it for the first time last weekend, what a movie! If ever there was a cool guy, his name is Gene Wilder.
- BulliesPhan87


Some of the meme's with that picture are hilarious
http://memegenerator.net/Wonkabreaker
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
The big market teams should be given the luxury of operating like a big market team. Not to the extent that it completely screws the smaller market teams but it's BS that just because other teams don't have the same financial resources that the big teams do that suddenly the big teams have to get handicapped.

Not saying that the cap should be gone, but a luxury tax would make total sense.

- Juice

Yep agreed ,sport is about physical competition not who has a bigger wallet
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
np

i hope it works out and i hope burke offer sheets Giroux and B schenn and you guys cant afford either because you stole weber and that pile of poop you have in net you call Bryzgalov.

- big_dion


Ok.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
Right, b/c spending all that money is working out so well for the Phillies, Yankees, and Red Sox.

Who are the playoff teams right now? nationals, pirates, reds, giants, braves & Yankees, orioles, white sox, rangers, angels.

And the Yankees have no shot at the WS this year b/c of their pitching.

Quit your crying.

- MeLLo


lots of ball left

and really, its 1 season out of how many?

get a grip.
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