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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 4 @ 10:34 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Today in Flyers' History: The Gratton Affair Begins
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 4 @ 10:45 AM ET
Yet another scintillating move from Bobby Clarke!










Dear God what a trainwreck
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 4 @ 10:45 AM ET
why change a good thing. Sometimes the best moves are the ones you never make!
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Aug 4 @ 10:45 AM ET
That was interesting. I never knew that so much into acquiring Chris Gratton.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Aug 4 @ 11:06 AM ET
Great blog. What a mess. As horrible as bobby looks in this Esposito looks 100x worse.
Glad Homer is at the helm.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Aug 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
what a cluster fxck that whole ordeal was, the flyers fax machine must have really sucked back then...i believe quebec cried foul on the deal faxed to them for lindros also.

what could have been if we just kept brindy at center, held onto prospal+williams, etc.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
First!
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Aug 4 @ 11:22 AM ET
Bill-if there is a lockout this season, would weber then qualify to be traded next summer?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 4 @ 11:25 AM ET
What a headache
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 4 @ 11:34 AM ET
Bill-if there is a lockout this season, would weber then qualify to be traded next summer?
- mydoglicks


It's unlikely there will be a canceled season. However, even if there is, he's owed the signing bonus money ($25 million) in full. I'm not sure whether the new contract's first season would otherwise roll over into 2013-14 if there's a canceled season but I really doubt the Predators would be trading him even if it were allowed.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Aug 4 @ 11:44 AM ET
what a cluster fxck that whole ordeal was, the flyers fax machine must have really sucked back then...i believe quebec cried foul on the deal faxed to them for lindros also.

what could have been if we just kept brindy at center, held onto prospal+williams, etc.

- mydoglicks


I thought that the Flyers had made a successful trade for Lindros and were just waiting to talk to him and his mommy when the Rangers snuck their deal into the NHL head office. Then the Flyers appealed and won.
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

Aug 4 @ 11:56 AM ET
I'll never forget being in Toronto to catch the final Flyers/Leafs game at MLG. On game day, while hanging out in the lobby of the downtown Toronto Marriott, The Flyers - also staying at the Marriott - came in from their morning skate. Every player, except Gratton and Sillinger, went to the elevator to return to their rooms. Gratton and Sillinger went to the front desk to check out. Shortly thereafter, we learned of the trade with Tampa. While Renberg could not make it to TO in time for the game, Langkow was in the lineup that night and notched an assist in the 3-0 Flyers victory.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 4 @ 12:25 PM ET
Epic.
Flyers should have turned around and done the Chicago offer for gratton
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Aug 4 @ 12:35 PM ET
It's unlikely there will be a canceled season. However, even if there is, he's owed the signing bonus money ($25 million) in full. I'm not sure whether the new contract's first season would otherwise roll over into 2013-14 if there's a canceled season but I really doubt the Predators would be trading him even if it were allowed.
- bmeltzer


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mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Aug 4 @ 12:36 PM ET
I thought that the Flyers had made a successful trade for Lindros and were just waiting to talk to him and his mommy when the Rangers snuck their deal into the NHL head office. Then the Flyers appealed and won.
- Ben37


i remember that the rangers said they faxed there trade first and was accepted, but in reality the flyers prooved there case that there deal was accepted first via fax.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 4 @ 12:44 PM ET
Yet another scintillating move from Bobby Clarke!

Dear God what a trainwreck

- Giroux_Is_God


All of clarkes moves might not have been great, he was an excellent gm.
vinnybolt4life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: clearwater, FL
Joined: 08.13.2009

Aug 4 @ 12:45 PM ET
I remember that trade and the blurry fax; got to hand it to phil, he lied, stole and did every under handed thing to bring the bolts to tampa; god i love that man!!!!!

Seriously i heard the only reason they sent dyke and renny back was the bolts pretty much be forced to closed up shop.

My best hockey memory is sitting 2 seats up from the glass on game 7 in 2004 and watching the big bad flyers crying like b*tches after the bolts slapped the stank off them, oh of course the lifting of the cup that same year!!!!!
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Aug 4 @ 12:48 PM ET
All of clarkes moves might not have been great, he was an excellent gm.
- twotoekenn


My main problem with Clarkie as GM was the summer when Cujo, Richter, and Beezer were all UFAs. With no salary cap, he had to overspend to get the best goalie, not the worst. He always believed a team could win with average goaltending if the team around was strong enough. I still shake my head and wonder why Cujo or Richter wasn't the choice.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 4 @ 12:50 PM ET
I'll never forget being in Toronto to catch the final Flyers/Leafs game at MLG. On game day, while hanging out in the lobby of the downtown Toronto Marriott, The Flyers - also staying at the Marriott - came in from their morning skate. Every player, except Gratton and Sillinger, went to the elevator to return to their rooms. Gratton and Sillinger went to the front desk to check out. Shortly thereafter, we learned of the trade with Tampa. While Renberg could not make it to TO in time for the game, Langkow was in the lineup that night and notched an assist in the 3-0 Flyers victory.
- BOSS_TWEED


Did you go up with the Fan Club? I was there too...Sillinger nearly bowled me and my girlfriend over when he was coming off the elevator with his luggage. He was not pleased.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Aug 4 @ 12:52 PM ET
What a goat-rope
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 4 @ 12:54 PM ET
All good stuff once again from the mind of Meltzer


Oh big, slow and soft...Chris Gratton was the total package.

He did have a few good moments, I don't remember them...but....

I was so upset that Renberg was included in that deal. The number if injuries he played through for the Flyers....and the lack of credit he got for jelling with basically anyone he was on the ice with.

In some ways, prior to this breakout year, Scott Hartnell has reminded me of Gratton in his overall play...accept Scotty Hockey has such a great personality and is such a yapper. Gratton always seemed to be dower.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
All of clarkes moves might not have been great, he was an excellent gm.
- twotoekenn


Clarke has his moments.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 4 @ 1:41 PM ET
Baby Shannahan
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
Let the troll games continue
- Daman

I have no problem with other teams fans post in here. He remarked about the same key player in Bill's blob.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 4 @ 1:49 PM ET
Awesome story from the Lindros era. I remember being in Tampa Bay once back in like 1995 I want to say and they had highway billboards promoting the lightning with Chris Gratton. He was marketed sort of as the messiah for the Bolts.
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