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Dan Spiegel
Florida Panthers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.16.2005

Sep 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
Dan Spiegel: Does Huberdeau Deserve First Line Minutes?
trolleytracks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Apparently I troll every blog , ON
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 7 @ 4:16 PM ET
Yes. A Promising young talent like Huberdeau should get quality minutes. Given the Panthers surprise Division title last year, not much should be expected of the Panthers this season. An 8th seed is a realistic wish for fans, so why not see what Huberdeau can handle right out of the gate?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
Probably do the samething that happened in Edmonton. Give him primo PP minutes and as much time against weaker competition as possible.

If you want we are done with Shawn Horcoff, he could really help in the sheltering.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
Yes. A Promising young talent like Huberdeau should get quality minutes. Given the Panthers surprise Division title last year, not much should be expected of the Panthers this season. An 8th seed is a realistic wish for fans, so why not see what Huberdeau can handle right out of the gate?
- trolleytracks


He might already be your best center so yes.
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Sep 7 @ 4:35 PM ET
Probably do the samething that happened in Edmonton. Give him primo PP minutes and as much time against weaker competition as possible.

If you want we are done with Shawn Horcoff, he could really help in the sheltering.

- Lahey


Lahey is right.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 7 @ 4:57 PM ET
Probably do the samething that happened in Edmonton. Give him primo PP minutes and as much time against weaker competition as possible.

If you want we are done with Shawn Horcoff, he could really help in the sheltering.

- Lahey



Agreed. PP time, high % of offensive zone starts and against 3rd and 4th lines as much as possible is the best way to go with young players.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:13 PM ET
Not yet. Burrows has earned the top line minutes. Unless they move Kes to the wing, Huberdeau will likely start centering the 3rd line.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
Not yet. Burrows has earned the top line minutes. Unless they move Kes to the wing, Huberdeau will likely start centering the 3rd line.
- Fosco


So does this deal happen before or after Weber and Nugent-Hopkins are acquired for Ballard and Raymond respectively?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Sep 7 @ 5:32 PM ET
Not yet. Burrows has earned the top line minutes. Unless they move Kes to the wing, Huberdeau will likely start centering the 3rd line.
- Fosco


that awkward moment, when clemmenson and upshall are shipped for luongo...
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:39 PM ET
So does this deal happen before or after Weber and Nugent-Hopkins are acquired for Ballard and Raymond respectively?
- MaximumBone


RNH will hold out during his RFA year, and you'll end up having to trade him to the Canucks for scraps—you'll be lucky to get a Raymond or Ballard type player.

Weber will never join the Canucks as long as they have guys like Kesler and Lapierre—let's be realistic here.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:41 PM ET
that awkward moment, when clemmenson and upshall are shipped for luongo...
- Mapleleafs_91


Pretty much. Maybe one or two more pieces added.

Why's everyone so serious today?
Dan Spiegel
Florida Panthers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.16.2005

Sep 7 @ 5:56 PM ET
that awkward moment, when clemmenson and upshall are shipped for luongo...
- Mapleleafs_91


Lol. I'd be flabbergasted if Tallon made any such deal. Doesn't make sense, unless something bad is brewing on the Markstrom front.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Sep 7 @ 6:00 PM ET
Agreed. PP time, high % of offensive zone starts and against 3rd and 4th lines as much as possible is the best way to go with young players.
- Nucker101


you forgot to add that he never takes faceoffs in the defensive zone and that he was the worst player on the team on the backcheck. oh wait, my mistake. i thought you were talking about hodgson for a second.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Sep 7 @ 6:03 PM ET
RNH will hold out during his RFA year, and you'll end up having to trade him to the Canucks for scraps—you'll be lucky to get a Raymond or Ballard type player.

Weber will never join the Canucks as long as they have guys like Kesler and Lapierre—let's be realistic here.

- Fosco


raymond will already be gone to toronto for kadri, o'reilly and toronto's first in 2020-2025 and ballard will be gone to montreal for subban and futures so you're trade is totally unrealistic if you're including raymond and ballard to get the nuge. it would probably take more like weiss and alberts to get the nuge.
Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Sep 7 @ 6:22 PM ET
No I don't think he should start in the top line. I think he needs to prove what he can do first give him 2nd line mins with all the power play he could ask for.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Sep 7 @ 6:29 PM ET
No I don't think he should start in the top line. I think he needs to prove what he can do first give him 2nd line mins with all the power play he could ask for.
- Crazycaboose


you do realize your avatar is a cougar and not a panther, right?

cougars, for the record are better anyway.
Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Sep 7 @ 6:29 PM ET
Lol. I'd be flabbergasted if Tallon made any such deal. Doesn't make sense, unless something bad is brewing on the Markstrom front.
- spiegs13


Well I could see us taking him if it's cheap. Then when markstrom is ready to take the starting role just move Lu or keep him as back up if he will allow it. Also taking him would be a nice safety net if mark doesn't pan out.

Does anyone know if he gets traded does his NTC go away?
Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Sep 7 @ 6:31 PM ET
you do realize your avatar is a cougar and not a panther, right?

cougars, for the record are better anyway.

- therealagent


Doesn't really matter to me honestly both are cool anyway.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 7 @ 6:33 PM ET
you forgot to add that he never takes faceoffs in the defensive zone and that he was the worst player on the team on the backcheck. oh wait, my mistake. i thought you were talking about hodgson for a second.
- therealagent





I was one of the many over-reactors on that trade and I'm still against it today, but I'll admit that looking back on the deal that it isn't wasn't so bad since Cody's lack of speed and size limits his upside, but I still think you have to keep the blue chip center prospect over the blue chip winger, especially with the seemingly high bust rate of young power forwards.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Sep 7 @ 6:55 PM ET



I was one of the many over-reactors on that trade and I'm still against it today, but I'll admit that looking back on the deal that it isn't wasn't so bad since Cody's lack of speed and size limits his upside, but I still think you have to keep the blue chip center prospect over the blue chip winger, especially with the seemingly high bust rate of young power forwards.

- Nucker101



i didn't mind trading him but they should have gotten a better return. kas might be a monster one day but our window is the next 5 years so for that reason i didn't love the deal. they knew kes was injured so why not keep him as a backup plan.

hindsight is 20/20 but if they had kept hodgson, luongo would have been gone a long time ago. all they would have had to do is to include cody in any luongo deal and they could have gotten a huberdeau in a package coming back.

i don't think cody suits the more physical eastern conference. he's going to get killed nightly which means his parents will demand a trade back to the west.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Sep 7 @ 7:14 PM ET
i didn't mind trading him but they should have gotten a better return. kas might be a monster one day but our window is the next 5 years so for that reason i didn't love the deal. they knew kes was injured so why not keep him as a backup plan.

hindsight is 20/20 but if they had kept hodgson, luongo would have been gone a long time ago. all they would have had to do is to include cody in any luongo deal and they could have gotten a huberdeau in a package coming back.

i don't think cody suits the more physical eastern conference. he's going to get killed nightly which means his parents will demand a trade back to the west.

- therealagent

I dont think we will know who got the better of the deal for a year or two what we do know is Hodgsen is gonna get first line time right away and Kass is gonna have to fight for every bit of time with coach V in charge. I wasn't opposed to the deal. He wanted out you don't wanna be here...don't let the door hit you on the a$$ on the way out. Kass was the upside because we didn't give KOHO away for nothing.
JVR2112
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.26.2012

Sep 7 @ 7:21 PM ET
raymond will already be gone to toronto for kadri, o'reilly and toronto's first in 2020-2025 and ballard will be gone to montreal for subban and futures so you're trade is totally unrealistic if you're including raymond and ballard to get the nuge. it would probably take more like weiss and alberts to get the nuge.
- therealagent

therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Sep 7 @ 7:26 PM ET

- JVR2112


or luongo, kesler, burrows and bieksa to philly for:

bryz
coburn
giroux
briere
read
tim kerr's autograph
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Sep 7 @ 7:40 PM ET
or luongo, kesler, burrows and bieksa to philly for:

bryz
coburn
giroux
briere
read
tim kerr's autograph

- therealagent


Philly wins that deal by a landslide.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Sep 7 @ 7:49 PM ET

Imagine there was a Leafs blog about a rookie possibly getting 1st line minutes in their 1st NHL game? The poopstorm would be MASSIVE --so many hits! And yes, I realize the Leafs currently have no prospects as promising as Huberdeau, but it's funny to think about.

Sorry, not a Leafs blog.....carry on
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