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John Toperzer
Joined: 12.30.2006

Nov 12 @ 10:53 AM ET
John Toperzer: Does shot-blocking deserve a minor penalty? Vote here All-out shot-blocking has become more prevalent than ever in the NHL
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 12 @ 10:54 AM ET
FIRST!!!
TheRollingPuck
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "All things considered (defense) I'd put a prime Kunitz on par with one way kessel."
Joined: 04.10.2010

Nov 12 @ 10:57 AM ET
No. Pain is enough punishment for blocking a shot.

EDIT: just look at what happened when the Rangers faced the Devils.
nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor Area, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 12 @ 10:57 AM ET
... no?

whats next 2 mins for icing, 2 mins for getting kicked out of the faceoff dot
ODalton
Joined: 08.27.2010

Nov 12 @ 11:02 AM ET
Sutton had 21 wins in 1976. Penalty for shot blocking?
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:05 AM ET

Not at all.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:06 AM ET
John Toperzer: Does shot-blocking deserve a minor penalty? Vote here
All-out shot-blocking has become more prevalent than ever in the NHL

- the-mitch-wilsons



Yeah let's give a penalty to a player anytime the puck hits him.

I can't see any problems with that at all.


Tip ins and screens should also be penalized as well as shots that miss the net.


rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:06 AM ET
No. Pain is enough punishment for blocking a shot.

EDIT: just look at what happened when the Rangers faced the Devils.

- TheRollingPuck


The style grinds you down a lot. Its amazing to think how healthy the rangers were with their style of play. I do think the play caught up with them at the end.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:07 AM ET
Yeah let's give a penalty to a player anytime the puck hits him.

I can't see any problems with that at all.


Tip ins and screens should also be penalized as well as shots that miss the net.

- robin_steele264

I think we should just go straight to shootout every game. Ultimate entertainment.
John Toperzer
Joined: 12.30.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
Sutton had 21 wins in 1976. Penalty for shot blocking?
- ODalton


You're correct. I'm wrong. He did win 20 games one time in his 23-year career. Kind of like Sundin getting 100 points once in his career.

Thanks for the correction and thanks for reading!

JT
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:11 AM ET
Seriously? This is a question? And some people actually voted yes!?!

As ridiculous as I think this is I'm going to keep an open mind. Would someone who voted yes please explain your reasoning.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 12 @ 11:12 AM ET
When I was in 9th grade i went down to block a shot and made a huge mistake. I went on my hip and was going a lil faster than I though, took a slapper right in the jock! I still have nightmares from that.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
Seriously? This is a question? And some people actually voted yes!?!

As ridiculous as I think this is I'm going to keep an open mind. Would someone who voted yes please explain your reasoning.

- BlueBallz

I voted no.. but I think the idea is that the way the Rangers played was really a bit ridiculous. The biggest problem is that the equipment today basically allows a guy to block a shot with out fearing injury (so long as you block correctly). With it being that way you end up with (like the Rags did) a bunch of goalies on the ice. They would just crouch down in front of the net and eliminate offense.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Nov 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
John Toperzer: Does shot-blocking deserve a minor penalty? Vote here
All-out shot-blocking has become more prevalent than ever in the NHL

- the-mitch-wilsons


Penalty for shot blocking? WTF?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
I voted no.. but I think the idea is that the way the Rangers played was really a bit ridiculous. The biggest problem is that the equipment today basically allows a guy to block a shot with out fearing injury (so long as you block correctly). With it being that way you end up with (like the Rags did) a bunch of goalies on the ice. They would just crouch down in front of the net and eliminate offense.
- jak521

I think the Rangers' lack of injury was an exception, a team playing that kind of shot blocking game won't typically make it through a season impervious like they did. Anyways, as to whether 2011-12 Rangers-style defense should be allowed, I think of it the same way as I do the trap: It's not exciting hockey, but I can't favor making rules against it just for being too effective.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:31 AM ET
I voted no.. but I think the idea is that the way the Rangers played was really a bit ridiculous. The biggest problem is that the equipment today basically allows a guy to block a shot with out fearing injury (so long as you block correctly). With it being that way you end up with (like the Rags did) a bunch of goalies on the ice. They would just crouch down in front of the net and eliminate offense.
- jak521


Yeah, I get that for sure, but just like this guy above stated, you shouldn't penalize an effective strategy, boring or not. This isn't even as bad as the trap because at least there is a risk involved for the players employing the tactic.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:33 AM ET
Yeah, I get that for sure, but just like this guy above stated, you shouldn't penalize an effective strategy, boring or not.
- BlueBallz

Im right there with you.. but I can (to a very minor degree) associate with people who would want to see that style of play frowned upon...


Also, as sick as it sounds.. You just start shooting high.. people will start to move..
Charliebox
Joined: 09.08.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
I voted no.. but I think the idea is that the way the Rangers played was really a bit ridiculous. The biggest problem is that the equipment today basically allows a guy to block a shot with out fearing injury (so long as you block correctly). With it being that way you end up with (like the Rags did) a bunch of goalies on the ice. They would just crouch down in front of the net and eliminate offense.
- jak521


Injuries aside, it's just a stupid way to play the game.

Sure, the Rangers did okay last season, but let's not forget, they were the #1 seed going into the playoffs.

The #8 Seed Sens took them to 7 games (and the Rangers were down 3-2). Then the #7 Seed Caps took them to 7 games
Finally, they got smoked by the Devils in round 3.

For a top-seeded team, that's not a great playoff.

I can't see too many teams copying that style of play.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
Injuries aside, it's just a stupid way to play the game.

Sure, the Rangers did okay last season, but let's not forget, they were the #1 seed going into the playoffs.

The #8 Seed Sens took them to 7 games (and the Rangers were down 3-2). Then the #7 Seed Caps took them to 7 games
Finally, they got smoked by the Devils in round 3.

For a top-seeded team, that's not a great playoff.

I can't see too many teams copying that style of play.

- Charliebox

It was boring as hell too.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
Im right there with you.. but I can (to a very minor degree) associate with people who would want to see that style of play frowned upon...


Also, as sick as it sounds.. You just start shooting high.. people will start to move..

- jak521


I was thinking that too, just didn't want to be the guy to actually say it
FAZOOL
New Jersey Devils
Location: Exit 80, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
Absolutely not.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
Injuries aside, it's just a stupid way to play the game.

Sure, the Rangers did okay last season, but let's not forget, they were the #1 seed going into the playoffs.

The #8 Seed Sens took them to 7 games (and the Rangers were down 3-2). Then the #7 Seed Caps took them to 7 games
Finally, they got smoked by the Devils in round 3.

For a top-seeded team, that's not a great playoff.

I can't see too many teams copying that style of play.

- Charliebox


I like to think that the difficulties they encountered in the playoffs are more of an indication of the increased parity of the league, but I could be wrong.

I do find it strange that a team with a world class goalie would employ the strategy they did but regardless, the original question was if shot blocking should get a 2 minute penalty and I still think the answer is a resounding no.
Charliebox
Joined: 09.08.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:49 AM ET
I like to think that the difficulties they encountered in the playoffs are more of an indication of the increased parity of the league, but I could be wrong.

I do find it strange that a team with a world class goalie would employ the strategy they did but regardless, the original question was if shot blocking should get a 2 minute penalty and I still think the answer is a resounding no.

- BlueBallz


Yeah, I agree. There's no need to make it a penalty. If a team wants to give the other team posession all the time and never be agressive, I don't see them wining the cup. Sure it may work against teams that don't have a bunch of skilled guys, but the further you get, the better the competition is. Letting good to great teams dictate the pace of play generally isn't going to work out for you.

I do get your point about the parity, and you're right to an extent. That said, the Sens and Caps weren't great teams last year, and going 7 games against each of those opponents shouldn't happen.

Also, it's alot more tiring always chasing the puck around than it is if you have posession.

I think the Rangers style finally caught up with them against the Devils as they were probably exhausted playing two 7 game series' with that style.

I can see 'borderline' playoff teams using that style, but not cup champs.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
I like to think that the difficulties they encountered in the playoffs are more of an indication of the increased parity of the league, but I could be wrong.

I do find it strange that a team with a world class goalie would employ the strategy they did but regardless, the original question was if shot blocking should get a 2 minute penalty and I still think the answer is a resounding no.

- BlueBallz

I think the idea is, between Hank and the brick wall shot blocking, that they could completely suffocate other teams' offense. At least for the Flyers, they seemed to quickly become desperate for goals, which leads to defensive breakdowns the Rangers could easily exploit (somebody had a picture with screencaps showing the same pass from the half boards to a lone undefended Ranger waiting to slam dunk). When they hit the playoffs, I guess teams tightening up their defense made it more difficult to do that. Either way, the gas had to run out eventually for that team.

I worry that Rick Nash will be the offensive force they need to really bring that game full circle.
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
... no?

whats next 2 mins for icing, 2 mins for getting kicked out of the faceoff dot

- nightmare3020


No....but why does the short handed team get the benefit of icing the puck? I say if they do ice it, call it, and faceoff in your own end with not being able to change lines either. And don't allow a timeout by the offending icing team.....EVER!!
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