Tim Panaccio: Flyers Going Up New Streit

trade him to edmonton

He's sure saying all of the right things. Hopefully his contract can stay under $5m although I wouldn't be surprised to see him go 3 yrs/$15m. Guessing one of Meszaros-Coburn-Grossman is traded once Streit signs.

trade him to edmonton
- oilersrule66

Streit for Smid, Schultz and a 4th rounder in 2014

if he gets 6mil for like 3 years, that's terrible...and if they don't buy out bryz of course there will be a lot of salary dumping

http://www.lighthousehock...tics-part-2-the-defensive

Good read on Streit

http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2013/6/12/4421492/islanders-regular-season-review-via-analytics-part-2-the-defensive

Good read on Streit
- Jsaquella

8 years 7 mill per, get it done

He's sure saying all of the right things. Hopefully his contract can stay under $5m although I wouldn't be surprised to see him go 3 yrs/$15m. Guessing one of Meszaros-Coburn-Grossman is traded once Streit signs.
- phillydiehard

Or maybe Homer knows something we don't about one of them...

Great acquisition, now just get him signed. Streit is better on the pp than Timmonen and especially has a better shot. Not sure if Streit can play the left point though as he usually plays where 93Crash plays on the pp.

Great acquisition, now just get him signed. Streit is better on the pp than Timmonen and especially has a better shot. Not sure if Streit can play the left point though as he usually plays where 93Crash plays on the pp.
- flyerdude17

I am still fine with this trade today. I do expect another deal to further upgrade the D before this is all said and done as Tim says. If Homer signs him to a reasonable amount and term then this is part of the puzzle and I am good with it. Still sad to see Briere being bought out, but thems the breaks I guess.

Good news for teams with RFA's.

IIRC, offseason salary cap is 10% more than the next season's cap, but all contracts count against it (including Pronger's.) Flyers are within 2 million of the offseason cap already. Streit's $$ will eat up most of Briere's buyout. Since you have to have the cap space to sign an RFA to an offer sheet, Flyer's would have to make moves to open up cap space BEFORE signing anyone. Tough to picture Flyer's giving up assets before they know if they will get anything in return or not.

Good news for teams with RFA's.

IIRC, offseason salary cap is 10% more than the next season's cap, but all contracts count against it (including Pronger's.) Flyers are within 2 million of the offseason cap already. Streit's $$ will eat up most of Briere's buyout. Since you have to have the cap space to sign an RFA to an offer sheet, Flyer's would have to make moves to open up cap space BEFORE signing anyone. Tough to picture Flyer's giving up assets before they know if they will get anything in return or not.
- Antilles

Bye-bye Ilya Bryzgalov

Bye-bye Ilya Bryzgalov
- Jsaquella

Buyouts have to happen in June. Obviously, Flyer's could do that, but again it's them having to give up assets in advance of knowing if they are getting anything back.

8 years 7 mill per, get it done
- watsonnostaw

Buyouts have to happen in June. Obviously, Flyer's could do that, but again it's them having to give up assets in advance of knowing if they are getting anything back.
- Antilles

are you calling briere and bryz assets?

are you calling briere and bryz assets?
- Just5

No, Ed Snider is. "Snider wanted Bryzgalov, made it known that he was 'his' guy and is standing behind him." Pretty clear implication he considers Bryz to be an asset. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing here, just saying it's tough to picture Flyer's giving up what they consider to be an asset purely to take a chance at acquiring something else.

(And Briere's buyout $$ is how they can afford to sign Streit, see my original post)

No, Ed Snider is. "Snider wanted Bryzgalov, made it known that he was 'his' guy and is standing behind him." Pretty clear implication he considers Bryz to be an asset. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing here, just saying it's tough to picture Flyer's giving up what they consider to be an asset purely to take a chance at acquiring something else.

(And Briere's buyout $$ is how they can afford to sign Streit, see my original post)
- Antilles

I dont think you have to worry about the flyers going after Pietro or Shatty in RFA. I never believed they would even before the Streit deal. Blues have too much room and the holmgren knows he prob cant drop a humangous offer sheet two summers in a row.

Great acquisition, now just get him signed. Streit is better on the pp than Timmonen and especially has a better shot. Not sure if Streit can play the left point though as he usually plays where 93Crash plays on the pp.
- flyerdude17

He definitely has a better shot. But Timonen is one of the better PP point producers among defenseman in the NHL. Timonen was 3rd overall in the League in PP points among defenseman last Season. And 9th overall the year before.

I dont think you have to worry about the flyers going after Pietro or Shatty in RFA. I never believed they would even before the Streit deal. Blues have too much room and the holmgren knows he prob cant drop a humangous offer sheet two summers in a row.
- Just5

I agree, but knowing the team with a recent history of going after RFA d-men is even less likely too is still good news.

I don't think Briere will be bought out. Someone will trade for him. There are about 15 teams in the league that will be well under the cap next season. While his cap hit is huge (6.5), his salary in real dollars is only 2.5per for the next two years.

That could be a steal for a team if he can stay healthy.

Briere is one of the most clutch guys in the league. He always steps up come playoff time.

I'm a Sens fan, and I'd love Murray to go after him this summer. With such a young team, the Sens won't be anywhere near the cap for the foreseeable future so his cap hit means nothing. Philly won't ask for much in return, if anything. poop, we may be able to land him for a late round draft pick or even future considerations.

I think Briere should be bought out and will be but here is another scenario that keeps him:

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Simon Gagne ($1.500m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) / Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Ray Emery ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
Buyout: Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,108,095; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster):- $8,095

LTIR Pronger.

I think Briere should be bought out and will be but here is another scenario that keeps him:

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Simon Gagne ($1.500m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) / Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Ray Emery ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
Buyout: Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,108,095; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster):- $8,095

LTIR Pronger.
- coffee junkie

We're negative even after buying out Bryz and signing Emery to an impossibly low amount to get him for off of the open market. That's a good testament to just how inevitable it is that Danny gets bought out.

I don't think Briere will be bought out. Someone will trade for him. There are about 15 teams in the league that will be well under the cap next season. While his cap hit is huge (6.5), his salary in real dollars is only 2.5per for the next two years.

That could be a steal for a team if he can stay healthy.

Briere is one of the most clutch guys in the league. He always steps up come playoff time.

I'm a Sens fan, and I'd love Murray to go after him this summer. With such a young team, the Sens won't be anywhere near the cap for the foreseeable future so his cap hit means nothing. Philly won't ask for much in return, if anything. poop, we may be able to land him for a late round draft pick or even future considerations.
- Charliebox

That's all true, but Briere has a NTC and only moves when/where he wants. Unfortunately.

I don't think Briere will be bought out. Someone will trade for him. There are about 15 teams in the league that will be well under the cap next season. While his cap hit is huge (6.5), his salary in real dollars is only 2.5per for the next two years.

That could be a steal for a team if he can stay healthy.

Briere is one of the most clutch guys in the league. He always steps up come playoff time.

I'm a Sens fan, and I'd love Murray to go after him this summer. With such a young team, the Sens won't be anywhere near the cap for the foreseeable future so his cap hit means nothing. Philly won't ask for much in return, if anything. poop, we may be able to land him for a late round draft pick or even future considerations.
- Charliebox

Or you could wait for him to get bought out and then get him at a much lower salary from the open market.

Or you could wait for him to get bought out and then get him at a much lower salary from the open market.
- JAKEw1234

Part of the point is some teams might want a higher cap hit for their books versus real salary.